Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Surrender Monkey

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and redirect to Cheese-eating surrender monkeys. No need for page history on that redirect. lifebaka++ 04:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Surrender Monkey

Apparently an obscure character in the X-Statix comic books, so obscure it is not even mentioned on that page. Also belongs to a collection of articles aiming to perpetuate or legitimise xenophobic stereotypes of the French such as:

French military victories (practical joke). Now redirects to Google bomb.
Cheese eating surrender monkeys
Views of the French military. A POV fork that was eventually deleted through AfD (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Views of the French military)
Image:Frenchmanweeps1940.jpg, that has been linked to at one point or another wherever possible (along with another version).

Note that none of the other "Euro-trash" characters from the "source" [1] seem to have found their way to Wikipedia. Equendil Talk 19:45, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as obscure character with no out of universe info. Maybe redirect to Cheese eating surrender monkeys? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 20:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Didn't we go through this before? And I take offense this article exists simply to slander the French. In fact, the whole point of the character was to MOCK those who slander the French. Actually reading the article would reveal the S.M. character comes to -love- French culture. In conclusion, this delete request is based on misunderstanding. And the character is distinctive enough to stay. Lots42 (talk) 21:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply How "did we go through this before" ? This is the article's first AfD. Equendil Talk 21:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then I am mistaken. I could have sworn this was the article's second AFD. No skin off my nose. Lots42 (talk) 10:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment From WP:Notability (fiction): "Elements of a work of fiction, including individual stories, episodes, characters, settings, and other topics, are presumed to be notable if there is significant coverage of the element(s) in reliable secondary sources." Hardly the case here. Equendil Talk 21:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If this in reply to me, I understand what you are saying. Lots42 (talk) 10:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Redirect ~~After a search, I am unable to find any out of universe sources, either. Character seems relatively obscure, as mentioned above.~~ True, Surrender Monkey IS a plausible search phrase. Lazulilasher (talk) 02:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not a Marvel Character, as claimed. [2] Mcewan (talk) 23:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Um, no. 'Surrender Monkey' is in fact a Marvel Comics character. I should know, I wrote most of the gosh-darn article. Lots42 (talk) 10:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He IS a real character, for what it's worth: [3]. -66.93.61.53 (talk) 01:42, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Point of order Is this AFD for the named article? If so why are a number of other articles also listed? I object to deletion of any but the primary article as it would be a malformed nomination. No opinion on Surrender monkey. Edison (talk) 02:10, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply. This AfD is only for Surrender Monkey. I was only outlining a probable reason why this article was created. Equendil Talk 04:10, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Cheese-eating surrender monkeys, just like Surrender monkey. Plausible search phrase. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I didn't think of that. Changing to redirect. Lazulilasher (talk) 02:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and redirect to Cheese-eating surrender monkeys, which is a different concept, so the page history of a nn character is not needed (although I agree it's a likely search term). – sgeureka ^t•c 11:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.