Module talk:Find sources/Archive 1

Archive 1

Broken "news" link

Moved from Template talk:Find video game sources

 – * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:41, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

The "news" link hasn't been working for a while. Instead of updating it to match the normal {{find sources}} template, what do you think about scrapping it altogether? The point of this template is the quick link to the RS search, which is included with the {{VG deletion}} delsort template (which also needs to be updated). czar · · 14:41, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Request for proper capitalization

For proper capitalization, could someone please edit Module:Find sources/templates/Find sources to change "highbeam" to "HighBeam" and "wikipedia" to "Wikipedia"? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:47, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 19:08, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Google

Is there any reason that Module:Find sources/links/google sets the results per page to 50 instead of the user’s preference (or if it’s by design, why not 100)? Also, can we document the as_eq parameter with a link to say, this documentation? —LLarson (said & done) 16:33, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

 Done Having waited a sufficient amount of time with no objections, I removed the 50-results-per-page parameter from the Google search. —LLarson (said & done) 03:49, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the latest revision to this template

Moved from Template talk:Find sources mainspace

 – * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:10, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding this revision, “‹ The template below (Find sources mainspace) is being considered for merging. See templates for discussion to help reach a consensus. ›” can be seen in the template itself and on pages which use it, such as Ping (video gaming). Shouldn’t it be surrounded with <noinclude> tags?
―PapíDimmi (talk | contribs) 19:40, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Way too late, but no, it is intentional for TfD tags to show up on uses. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 22:41, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Please use HTTPS URL for JSTOR link

The purpose of this edit is to provide increased privacy and security for users by having the Module:Find sources/links/jstor template generate an HTTPS link to JSTOR instead of the current HTTP link. The JSTOR search URL appears to support HTTPS. In Module:Find sources/links/jstor, please change http://www.jstor.org/ to https://www.jstor.org/ instead. --Elegie (talk) 05:53, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

@Elegie:  Done -- John of Reading (talk) 06:11, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Update Google Images to use new-style URL and forced HTTPS

I switched the Google Image search format string to a newer format at Module:Find sources/links/google free images/sandbox, and was hoping for it to be applied to Module:Find sources/links/google free images.

The current template uses the old-style Google image search URL format, with google.com/image?tbm=isch instead of google.com/search?tbm=isch. Currently the old format redirects to the new format, but I think it would be better to just use the new format to avoid any broken links in the future. Also, the protocol-relative URL scheme is now obsolete so I changed it to use https:// instead. If this is applied and works out I might make some similar changes to the other Google URLs. Thanks, Habst (talk) 15:04, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 17:25, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

@Habst: Thank you for the edit request! Fixes like these are very welcome. (And of course thank you to JJMC89 for carrying it out. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 12:30, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Highbeam removed

Moved from Template talk:Find video game sources

 – * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:41, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I've removed the Highbeam link from the template, as the service is no longer working - see https://www.questia.com/hbr-welcome for the public statement. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 23:41, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Some google searches using this module have "-wikipedia" at the end

I've noticed an issue occurring with Template:Find sources mainspace that I believe originates with this module..
An example of what is occurring:
On this diff you can see Template:Article for deletion/dated at the top. The first two Find sources links search with "-wikipedia" included in the search term, which seems to negatively affect the results coming back.
I'm hoping that someone may know what is wrong so that this can be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanstrat (talk • contribs) 02:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

RfC of potential interest

Moved from Template talk:Find sources mainspace

 – * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:10, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

An RfC is underway that interested "watchers of this page" wound enhance by participating, I hope that many will! The discussion is located at Wikipedia talk:Twinkle#RfC regarding "Ambox generated" maintenance tags that recommend the inclusion of additional sources. Thank you.--John Cline (talk) 07:05, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Too complicated

This module seems to me like it is needlessly complicated. Why is it a good idea to store the configuration for each template in its own module subpage instead of in the wikitext of the template? That appears to make it harder to edit for no apparent reason. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 02:32, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

I am guessing because auto-documentation template also uses it? —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 11:33, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

It would still be possible to implement autodoc even without /templates cfg pages. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 19:59, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

As I have just done. I also think that the /autodoc template config pages should also be in Wikitext and associated with the template, but it's not clear exactly where. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 21:09, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 February 15#Module:Find sources/templates/find sources. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 21:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 July 2020

Please copy Module:Find sources/sandbox to Module:Find sources. This will allow the template to generate search queries for arbitrary page titles (specified by |title=) with parenthetical disambiguators separated from the main part of the title (this is already supported for the current page title).

Please also copy Template:Afd2/sandbox to Template:Afd2, which will make use of this new parameter.

I posted a section on Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion#Find sources and parenthetical disambiguiators proposing these changes. There has been no response in the past week. The testcases are unaffected. The change is demonstrated in one of my sandboxes. Danski454 (talk) 20:16, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done Please document the new parameter. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:02, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 19 August 2020

Please add a link to Bing and DuckDuckGo as many people use these search engines as well when looking for sources on Wikipedia. (I use Bing myself.) Aasim 01:06, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please make your requested changes to the module's sandbox first; see WP:TESTCASES. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:32, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 26 November 2020

Please add a link to the Open Library, a book-oriented project of the Internet Archive. I've drafted the subpage Module:Find_sources/links/openlibrary for review and testing. I would have sandbox tested it, but can't seem to find my way to the right sandbox. LeadSongDog come howl! 17:42, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

This should be discussed at least a little before editing this widely used module. Taking the simple {{Find sources}} example from the {{Find sources}} documentation, what would the new output look like? Has there been any discussion about adding this? Johnuniq (talk) 22:58, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Change "-wikipedia" to "-site:wikipedia.org"

The former is too broad; mentioning Wikipedia in of itself shouldn't be enough to disqualify a source. If some sources *cite* Wikipedia then the person looking for the sources should just not use those sources themself, rather than potentially being unaware of any source which happens to mention a widely-used website. For any topics *related* to Wikipedia especially, this template would be completely useless.

Also, the "newspapers" link should just add "&tbm=nws" as a query parameter instead of adding "site:news.google.com/newspapers" to the query string.

PBZE (talk) 04:38, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

I was originally considering making the same request, but now I'm uncertain about it. The proposed change should be weighed, pros and cons. Using a negative site keyword, will exclude pages hosted at wikipedia.org only. Using the negative wikipedia keyword, but minus the "site:" prefix, will avoid any pages containing "wikipedia" on them. This could theoretically exclude good pages that happen to have the token "wikipedia", but I suspect that is minimal. On the flip side, it may exclude some forks and mirrors who credit wikipedia, but only if the "site:" prefix is not included. My hunch is that including the "site:" prefix will hurt more than it helps, but this would need some investigation. Mathglot (talk) 19:56, 25 June 2021 (UTC)