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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 21:47, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the text of "In dir ist Freude" ("In Thee is Gladness") was written in the 16th century to a 1591 dance song melody by Giovanni Giacomo Gastoldi, and first published in a collection of Christmas carols? Source: several
- Reviewed: ~~to come~~
- Comment: open to other hooks - "In you is joy in all distress" is not the typical Christmas carol, how to say that in short? - the CD from Notre Dame seems interesting, but I don't know how to word it within our limits - don't miss what Latry said, in the distress after the cathedral fire

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:16, 1 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

long enough and new enough. Gerda, when was the german translation done? I have a copyvio concern there. Waiting on a QPQ --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 10:56, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Maureen Harding Clark. Do you mean the translation into English? 1858, as I found now and added. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- good to go --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 23:25, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Gerda, would you mind if I made this punchier? Something like ALT0a: ... that the 16th century text of "In dir ist Freude" ("In Thee is Gladness") was first published in a collection of Christmas cards? I don't think the italian -> german thing is quite as hooky as the christmas cards, so that should probably be the highlight. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 07:35, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry, but I mind ;) - Firstly, Christmas is over, seoondly, it's "carols", not "cards", and thirdly, the key thing isn't "Italian" but "dance". I'd welcome a hook saying that - as several sources say - the light ease of this melody can carry over distress. Perhaps this (now that I found the translation, which I hadn't when wording the original:
    
    ... that the hymn "In dir ist Freude in allem Leide" ("In Thee is gladness amid all sadness") was written to a 1591 dance song melody by Giovanni Giacomo Gastoldi?
    
    Personal background: the hymn - which is not usually sung for Christmas - was scheduled on Christmas Eve the year that Harry von de Gass [de] had died, because it had been one of his favourites, with drums ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    
    RandomCanadian, I wonder if you could give it a lilypond, perhaps just of the first line? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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