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Category:Science fiction short story collections

Category:Science fiction short story collections into Category:Science fiction anthologies
Comment: (This is my first CfM, if I've missed a step, please advise.) Avt tor 23:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep with the proviso that "anthologies" be reserved for collections of stories by multiple authors and "short story collections" be reserved for collections of multiple stories by the same author, which is what I understand to be the difference between an anthology and a short story collection. Otto4711 00:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The distinction is that "anthologies" contain the works of multiple authors and "collections" contain the work of a single author. If this is not clear, providing clearer instructions on the category pages is the way to go, not merging the the categories. --Paul A 00:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: Another alternative would be to clarify the situation by renaming the collections category to [[:Category:Single-author science fiction collections]], but I am not in favour of this as the new name seems a bit unwieldy. --Paul A 00:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: That is sufficiently non-obvious that I'd still prefer to merge the categories, but if the distinction were made clear somewhere, that would solve a lot of the problem. Avt tor 03:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - collections & anthologies are defined as single-author and multi-author; no need for more complex terms. To the extent this is confusing or a little bit specialist, a simple template could be devised that would create a standard explanation of collections/anthologies with links to the other category. --lquilter 04:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - collections & anthologies are defined as single-author and multi-author, clearer instructions and definitions might be needed. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 15:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Far be it for me to argue against consensus. If someone voting "Keep" could put some clear wording on the two category pages, I can withdraw the nomination. Avt tor 17:54, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Slavic tribes

Category:Slavic tribes into Category:Slavic ethnic groups
  • Merge or put a note on both category pages explaining the difference. (I also fail to understand why Silesians are categorised as a "Slavic nation" while Pomeranians are categorised as a "Slavic tribe" – please have a look at that disctinction, too.) Wikipeditor 22:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Truten lovers

delete per WP:OC#Opinion about a question or issue --Nowke 21:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

delete nonsense. Category appears to have only one member. Therefore, this individual can just as easily post that box on his/her own page instead of creating a one-member category. Doczilla 05:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
keep This is that "one member" who's been trying to recruit some of the other fans (who, it seems, don't care for Wikipedia, and sometimes I don't blame them). Thanos6 12:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dallas

Category:Buildings and structures in Dallas to Category:Buildings and structures in Dallas, Texas
Category:Landmarks in Dallas to Category:Landmarks in Dallas, Texas
Category:Mayors of Dallas to Category:Mayors of Dallas, Texas
Category:People from Dallas to Category:People from Dallas, Texas
Category:Sports in Dallas to Category:Sports in Dallas, Texas
  • Rename, Consistency with other Dallas, Texas categories. --Vossanova o< 19:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - is the disambiguator needed in any Dallas-related categories? I for one can't think of any other places it is likely to be confused with. There are quite a few places called Dallas, but I doubt any of them is big enough to cause confusion. Grutness...wha? 00:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose It is those other Dallas categories that are out of line with the agree style for subcategories of front rank U.S. cities, so they are the ones that should be renamed, dropping "Texas". Sumahoy 00:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Banned documentaries

Category:Banned documentaries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete - the category for banned films was recently deleted. Logically this category for a subset of films should also be deleted. Otto4711 18:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Xdamrtalk 20:25, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Broadcast media in Oklahoma City

Category:Broadcast media in Oklahoma City (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Duplicates both its own subcategories and Category:Oklahoma City Media Category:Oklahoma City media, whose scope is more in line with the rest of Category:American media by market. I've submitted OKC Media for speedy renaming for capitalization, which leaves this category to delete. -choster 18:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:High Schools in Yuba County, California

Merge into Category:High schools in California. -- Prove It (talk) 17:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:High schools in yuba-sutter area

Merge into Category:High schools in California. -- Prove It (talk) 16:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:High Schools in Sutter County, California

Uperge back into Category:High schools in California. -- Prove It (talk) 16:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Italian Writers in French language

Rename to Category:Italian writers in French, convention of Category:French-language writers. -- Prove It (talk) 16:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chancellors of Washington University in St. Louis

Rename to Category:Washington University in St. Louis presidents, convention of Category:American university presidents. -- Prove It (talk) 16:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:German parties, which reject Agenda 2010

Delete, categorization of political parties based on how they stand on one single issue. -- Prove It (talk) 15:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Christian individuals in the United Kingdom

The following discussion is an archived debate regarding the category or categories above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was speedy delete as creator error. Mairi 18:46, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into Category:British Christians, convention of Category:Christians by nationality. -- Prove It (talk) 15:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Triple J Hottest 100 Winners

Delete, categorization by published list, see Triple J Hottest 100. -- Prove It (talk) 15:25, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Crime Syndicate members

Category:Crime Syndicate members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete and Listify per multiple previous CfDs for super-teams. Otto4711 14:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Characters in Patrick Henry's Life

Delete, Somehow People by people doesn't seem like a good way to categorize. -- Prove It (talk) 14:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Transport in Asia

Category:Transportation in Oman --> Category:Transport in Oman
Category:Transportation in Saudi Arabia --> Category:Transport in Saudi Arabia
Category:Transportation in Israel --> Category:Transport in Israel
Category:Transportation in Israel by city --> Category:Transport in Israel by city
Category:Transportation in Haifa --> Category:Transport in Haifa
Category:Transportation in Jerusalem --> Category:Transport in Jerusalem
Category:Transportation in Tel Aviv --> Category:Transport in Tel Aviv
Category:Transportation companies of Israel --> Category:Transport companies of Israel
  • Rename all. All mentioned countries seem to use "transport" form. Categories are currently in "transportation" form, because almost all countries' categories and articles were started from CIA World Factbook data which uses American "transportation" form.
Israel: [1]
Oman: [2]
Saudi Arabia: [3] - Darwinek 14:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed new Category:Long words in English

The following discussion is an archived debate regarding the category or categories above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made at Talk:Longest_word_in_English. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was do not create. Fayenatic london 13:45, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I propose that a new category be set up for long words in English. I suggest that all words mentioned in the article Longest word in English should be eligible to be included. At the moment the article Floccinaucinihilipilification has no categories, and this proposal would find it a home and companions. The proposal is posted here in case it's a bad idea or a category that has been deleted already. If there is a more appropriate place to raise it then please advise me to move it. Fayenatic london 14:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose per previous CfDs on subjective categories like "long." In fact we may have deleted a longest words category once already. The problem comes when trying to decide what qualifies as "long." How many letters constitutes a "long" word and why is the mark set at the number and not another? Otto4711 14:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, Length of name is non-defining. Plus, we can't specify a number without it being arbitrary. And if we don't specify a number, it's subjective. I'm sorry it just doesn't work. -- Prove It (talk) 16:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Supervillains by adversary

Category:Supervillains by adversary (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete this and all sub-categories. Very rarely does a superviallain (other than those who appear once and are never seen again and are thus not notable) fight only one superhero or super-team. Categorizing villains by whoever they happen to fight once or even several times is a haphazard scheme. As a concrete example, look at someone like Punisher. He's categorized as a Wolverine villain, a Spider-Man villain, a Hulk villain and a Captain America villain, but then he himself is used to categorize other villains! Then you have the POV problems inherent in any "villain" category. For example, you have someone like Hulk, who has fought pretty much everyone in the Marvel universe at one time or another, and he isn't categorized as a villain of anyone. Otto4711 13:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • As they stand, Delete as per nom. This is a case where some of the cats may be valid if two things occure: 1) name changes to (Superhero/team/villain) advisaries and 2) trimming by primary use. — J Greb 16:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Aside from the POV problems and the problem with villains becoming heroes or vice versa, these heroes often have common villains. For example, Doctor Doom is probably a "villain" for most of the Marvel characters in the above list, although he has also worked with many of the above heroes before. Dr. Submillimeter 16:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Eventually every supervillain fights every superhero, making these categories meaningless regardless of the POV issue on the word "villain". Doczilla 17:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Couldn't people choose who they thing is a villain? —mikedk9109SIGN 22:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment While certainly any given superhero and villain can fight, in many cases, there are clearly apparent connections between a given villain and superhero. For example, Lex Luthor and Superman are so explicitly connected that there's little question they are identified as being part of an antagonistic pair. Since the category for Superman is limited to "primarily identified" I'd say that's a fair enough restriction. The same goes with say, Batman and the Joker. In many cases, there are even reference books that specifically list a given character as an adversary. Even if some villain turns good, the former identity is still applicable. Now I'm not saying that every entry or category in this section is right, or appropriate, I have my doubts about several entries That said, given the existence of pages like Superman enemies and Batman villains, I consider the information secure enough even absent a category. Mister.Manticore 15:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, added this to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Notice Board. Mister.Manticore 15:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Islands of the Galápagos

Propose renaming Category:Islands of the Galápagos to Category:Galápagos Islands
  • Rename. This category is formatted in the style used for categories that simply group articles about individual islands, but it has a broader scope than that. It is possible to adjust the title to reflect this without losing much. Pinoakcourt 13:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom.

Category:Football Player

Category:Football Player (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This category and Category:Young Football Player are both empty, don't follow capitaliziation conventions, and are probably redundant with existing categories. They were probably created by an eleven-year old editor, so be polite, please.Kchase T 12:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick

Propose renaming Category:Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick to Category:The Chronicles of Riddick
  • Rename, Since the release of the film The Chronicles of Riddick, the film Pitch Black has been released and is now referred to as "The Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black" to follow all the subsequent releases to the franchise. Therefore it is not nesicarry to have "Pitch Black" in the name of the category. Also having both titles is a little combursome and oddlooking. I propose shortening the title to simply "The Chronicles of Riddick" Animedude 08:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose unsupported claim regarding film title. If it was released with a copyright under the title of Pitch Black. Maybe the most recent DVD box says the longer colon-linked title, but (1) it never had a theatrical release under that name, (2) the film may or may not still say Pitch Black when played from the DVD, (3) you have cited no sources for your claims, and (4) this ain't Star Wars. Do you realize how many DVDs have altered titles, special editions, platinum editions, and the like? Doczilla 08:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to Category:Riddick franchise, otherwise just Delete and be done with it. Otto4711 15:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Album stubs/Child list

Propose renaming Category:Album stubs/Child list to Template:Album stub categories

Category:People with anxiety disorder

Category:People with anxiety disorder (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete inaccurately named, inappropriate, and essentially unpopulated category.

1. Name is inaccurate. There is no specific disorder called anxiety disorder. The group of anxiety disorders, plural, include generalized anxiety disorder, phobias, panic disorder, and others, not one called "anxiety disorder".

2. The disorders mentioned above are not defining characteristics anyway. People should not be categorized based on conditions that do not tend to be lifelong. Some experience it on and on for years. Some experience very brief difficulties. Categorizing by states people experience is inappropriate, especially when those states involve moods. We all experience a wide range of moods.

3. Except for a subcategory, this category is unpopulated. Doczilla 06:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. This is not a defining characteristic. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Pinoakcourt 12:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as empty (disagree with #2) The category is empty, aside from from a subcategory Category:People with obsessive-compulsive disorder which already appears as a subcategory of Category:People by medical or psychological condition. So this category can safely be deleted with no need to upmerge. However, I should mention that while I agree with #1 and #3 in Doczilla's comments above, I do not agree with all of what he said in #2. Just because an experience isn't lifelong doesn't mean that it is historically unimportant in a person's article. If the condition, though ultimately cured, helped define the person for a notable portion of their life, and is verifiable and significant enough to appear in the person's article, then it is likely a characteristic that is important enough to possibly consider as a means of categorization. Yes, everybody has mood swings, for example, but very few people have articles about themselves that specifically mention a specific mental or physical illness in published news accounts. Thus in the case of mental or physical illness which is notably mentioned in specific people's articles, it can be perfectly appropriate to use that as a means of categorization for those articles to sort people with unusual, significant historical similarities. Dugwiki 19:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Reluctantly I agree with Doczilla. —mikedk9109SIGN 22:00, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Canadian rock groups

Propose renaming Category:Canadian rock groups to Category:Canadian rock music groups

Category:Blade Runner cast and crew

Category:Blade Runner cast and crew (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete, Another unnecessary category the sweeps in not just people who were in front of the camera for this movie, but those who were just associated with it. The crew, as best I understand it, includes the (admittedly important) director, cinematographer, producer, but also (the likely unimportant) best boy, hairdressers, under-costumers, sandwitch-makers, and all those hundreds of names that roll past at blistering speed while you are leaving a theater. C'mon. We should not be categorizing actors by their movies/tv shows/etc. much less the behind-the-scenes folks. Carlossuarez46 01:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Space visionaries

Category:Space visionaries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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