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Introduction

When describing theories that it works parallel with, Maslow stated that the most important component of his theory is that is supplements the “Freudian pessimism” and “neo-behaviorist relativism” with positive and empirically grounded theories of human behavior, motivation, and development. ref. (Maslow as quoted in Hoffman, 1988, p. 191)Maslow, A., & Herzeberg, A. (1954). Hierarchy of needs. AH Maslow. ea., Motivation and Personality. Harper, New York..

Self-Actualization section

Self-actualized individuals were "reality centered," and able to differentiate what was falsified from what was genuine. They were also "problem centered focusing on how to create solutions to life’s difficulties. These individuals were comfortable by themselves and had healthy personal relationships. These individuals preferred close relations with relatively few people including family and friends, rather than a large number of shallow relationships. ref. Maslow, A., & Herzeberg, A. (1954). Hierarchy of needs. AH Maslow. ea., Motivation and Personality. Harper, New York.

Research

Maslow believed that the only reason people were unable to satisfy themselves toward self-actualization was due to the social constraints and difficulties placed upon individuals. Education is one part of society that could be reconstructed to use instead of person-stunting techniques, utilize person-growing techniques such as teaching people life is precious and that if people see the good in the world, it makes life worth living. ref. Simons, J. A., Irwin, D. B., & Drinnien, B. A. (1987). Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. Retrieved October, 9, 2009.

Physiological needs

Include that Maslow used homeostasis and specific appetites as points that supported his belief in the need for physiological needs to be met, furthermore not only are they the most important but also that “ A person who is lacking food, safety, love, and esteem would most probably hunger for food more strongly than for anything else”. ref. http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Maslow/motivation.htm A Theory of Human Motivation A. H. Maslow (1943) Originally Published in Psychological Review, 50, 370-396.

Safety Section

Broader attempts to seek safety and stability in the world are seen in the very common preference for familiar rather than unfamiliar things. Furthermore, the tendency to have a religion or world-philosophy that organizes the universe with members having some sort of meaningful whole is also in part motivated by safety-seeking. ref. http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Maslow/motivation.htm A Theory of Human Motivation A. H. Maslow (1943) Originally Published in Psychological Review, 50, 370-396.

References

Page text. ref A Theory of Human Motivation http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Maslow/motivation.htm Link text Mendezla (talk) 23:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I've made the additions easier to read. The reference system doesn't work too well on talkpages. Jonpatterns (talk) 20:27, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2014

Request that quotation 'Air, water, and food are metabolic requirements for survival in all animals, including humans' under heading 'Physiological needs' be altered into 'Air, water, sleep, and food are metabolic requirements for survival in all animals, including humans', considering that sleep indeed is a metabolic requirement in all fauna, and considering Maslow himself naming sleep as a fundamental need in the most basic form, and therefore part of the lowest step in his hierarchy of physiological needs. Raoul Michels (talk) 16:12, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 19:31, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Please take a look at the illustration "Maslow's hierarchy of needs, represented as a pyramid" and note sleep as listed. 178.149.135.8 (talk) 01:01, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Image

I have replaced File:Maslow's hierarchy of needs.svg with File:MaslowsHierarchyOfNeeds.svg, which omits the specific examples of needs. Those were largely not contained in the given reference, and I doubt they were given by Maslow in the first place, making their use here original research. Huon (talk) 03:07, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Replaced by attachment theory?

The "research" section, and by extension the lead, says Maslow's theory has largely been replaced by attachment theory. The cited source is an essay about cross-cultural patterns of attachment in children which, for all I can tell, doesn't even mention Maslow's hierarchy, nor does it discuss "graduate and clinical psychology and psychiatry" in any detail. Do I miss something here, or was that claim made up out of thin air and supported by a source that actually doesn't confirm it? Huon (talk) 22:06, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

At a closer look that content was edited by a sock of a banned editor. I have removed it. Huon (talk) 23:43, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Vague and lacking source

"However, fame or glory will not help the person to build their self-esteem until they accept who they are internally." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.85.4.83 (talk) 22:27, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2015

This link has changed: * Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, Valdosta. NEW: http://www.edpsycinteractive.org/topics/conation/maslow.html Fliegenderstern (talk) 19:54, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Done Stickee (talk) 00:20, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 November 2015

Under "Criticism", adding the full name of the researchers as mentioned in their research: Mahmoud A. Wahba, Lawrence G. Bridwell Brightskymoon (talk) 04:19, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Why? It's usually sufficient to refer to researchers by their last name. Stickee (talk) 01:26, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Pyramid is a later interpretation

This claim is made in the primary section, with a [citation needed] attached. Here is a source that could be attached there. -- 121.7.103.204 (talk) 11:00, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

1970 Revision?

Maslow revised his earlier model to 7 levels in 1970. I didn't see even a reference to this anywhere on the page and the page instead claims that his 1954 edition is the most complete. This seems to be a strange and significant omission. --50.68.134.51 (talk) 23:17, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Since more than one external link uses the same text ("Maslow's hierarchy of needs"), how is a reader to choose one over another? Adding a description phrase to the link would help a reader distinguish between the external sources. YALL JUST NEED TO GO TO XNXX.COM AND THERE YOU WILL FIND EVERYTHING YOU NEED LMFAO — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.75.124.37 (talk) 17:44, 12 September 2016 (UTC) PORNHUB.COM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.75.124.37 (talk) 17:46, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Graphic: Dynamic hierarchy of needs

Hello, I created a graphic for the dynamic hierarchy of needs, a alternative visualization to the pyramid, referring to Krech, D./Crutchfield, R. S./Ballachey, E. L. (1962), Individual in society, Tokyo etc. 1962, S. 77: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dynamic_hierarchy_of_needs_-_Maslow.svg It would be nice, if someone could integrate this graphic into the article. Philipp Guttmann 16:56, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Little typo that I can't change due to insufficient rights

At the end of the Physiological Needs section it says "may also shape said instinct". It should say "may also shape that instinct".

MAJOR run on in the first paragraph!! Flower.girl (talk) 08:10, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2016

in paragraph 1.2 Safety needs, in the first sentence, change "Once a person's physical safety needs are relatively satisfied" to "Once a person's physiological needs are relatively satisfied" - I'm sure this was a simple oversight, since each new level of need starts with assuming that the previous level has been satisfied. Nerdman1 (talk) 13:27, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Done, thanks for pointing out the mistake. FireflySixtySeven (talk) 23:14, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 November 2016

Thank you for making my previous change to 1.2 Safety Needs, but I believe that the change implemented was incomplete. "physiological safety needs" should be changed to "physiological needs" - the issue was the safety one, which is NOT what the previous need is about. It's what THIS level of need is about, so the recap of the previous need should not include the word safety. Nerdman1 (talk) 00:15, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Done; apologies for not getting it right the first time. FireflySixtySeven (talk) 01:15, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Image again

I have reverted McGeddon's image changes. I disagree with the basic premise that File:Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.svg is more useful - to me the additional terms are rather difficult to read due to their small size, and I'm still not happy with the underlying OR issues that McGeddon acknowledged. Such details are better handled in the body of the article than in an image. Huon (talk) 00:10, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Full self-actualisation

It is an ideal, but is it even possible? Heff01 (talk) 05:48, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Definition of terms self actualisation

This last section of the article is misleading for the very fundamental reason that it does not provide a definition. I think it should start with an actual definition of self actualisation before moving on to critique the term as not properly conveying Maslow's intent. Generally this section is vaguely written and adds little to the article. If it cannot be improved I would suggest deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmcubed (talk • contribs) 10:46, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

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"Physiological needs are the physical requirements for human survival"

"Maslow's hierarchy places sex in the physiological needs category along with food and breathing", but humans do not need to have sex to survive, as far as I know, no-ones ever died from lack of sex. 92.0.244.12 (talk) 22:01, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

  • But, lack of sex when artificial reproductive methods are not available lead to extinction (of species relying on sexual reproduction). Besides, lack of sex may cause depression and, the latter, to suicide. Loneliness is a byatch.
  • But I agree with you regarding the "hierarchy" levels. Nonetheless, it seems you have not read everything. The article clearly states that there is not a "global" rank. So, we are all aware that "one size does NOT fit all".

George Rodney Maruri Game (talk) 20:54, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

The main image is misleading

According to http://academic.udayton.edu/jackbauer/Readings%20595/Koltko-Rivera%2006%20trans%20self-act%20copy.pdf the pyramid has self-transcendence at the top. Here's what the pyramid should look like: http://personalityspirituality.net/articles/the-hierarchy-of-human-needs-maslows-model-of-motivation/ Main image at the article should reflect state-of-the-art of Maslow's theory, not some version of it that he debunked later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgenie (talk • contribs) 17:42, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

The article does mention self-transcendence. I wonder if there are any other arguments for using the older version of the pyramid? Jonpatterns (talk) 19:25, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Love part of belonging or esteem

Did Maslow really include love in Belonging (being accepted as part of a group) rather than in Esteem (being worthy of affection and respect)? It seems more fitting to think of love as part of Esteem; as you can be accepted as part of a group without being loved, but Esteem implies love. LeapUK (talk) 05:52, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Criticisms

It should be obvious that Maslow ignored quite a few physical needs. First we need space - sufficient (at least) to fit our body. We also need not just "air" but air at a certain range of composition, temperature and pressure. Our need for some gravity is suggested by the bone loss experienced by astronauts on the ISS, but the extent of that need is unknown, while it has been well established that excessive force (gravity) will lead to adverse health effects and extremely high gravity will result in tidal forces which would be fatal. We also probably need a microbiome. And we need an environment with limited quantities of radiation of various sorts as well as limited amounts of toxic (carcinogenic, teratogenic, etc.) substances (in the case of toxics (etc.) not just amount, but 'availability' is also important.) The article fails to adequately define what a (physiological) "need" is. Does a zygote "need" the same things as a pre- or post- implantation embryo, a fetus, a neonate, a toddler, an adolescent, an adult, or a senior citizen? Obviously not. Is development (maturation) a need? I certainly do NOT want to increase my mass, but a newborn needs to grow, it seems to me. And there are various studies which demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt that we need various types of stimulation and exercise (physical and "mental") to develop normally. I see none of these obvious "needs" mentioned here. We can only speculate what Maslow's norm was. If he based his findings on 1% of the population, then it follows that his norm may not be near the population medians (for instance, Einstein came from a wealthy (or at least well-to-do) family, as do a disproportionate fraction of over-achievers).) It is also stated that "sex instinct" is a "need" (the link redirects to libido). That is nonsense. Some people have zero interest in sex, others are willing to knowingly behave in highly risky ways to engage in sex. Sex instinct is not sex. I would expect Maslow meant engaging in sexual stimulation, erection, orgasm, possibly (male) ejaculation, but I have no idea if he would have included the female menstrual cycle, menses, or pregnancy and reproduction. What is the definition of "need"?71.31.149.188 (talk) 18:29, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

You’ll need to find a source for criticisms if you want to include it in the page. See WP:NOR Bakert (talk) 02:02, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

so called "attachment theory"

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!! 

"attachment theory has since been extended to provide explanations of nearly all the human needs in Maslow's hierarchy, from sustenance and mating to group membership and justice.[19]"

If that were so, wouldn't it have at least one word of explanation and so forth?? Please correct.
----2602:306:CFCE:1EE0:A98E:B629:4FB:D8CA (talk) 14:03, 3 August 2019 (UTC)SillyMe

The references used here do not even support the connection to the topic, so I've removed it entirely. Iikigaii (talk) 20:50, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Blackfoot?

Apparently there are allegations that Maslow based the hierarchy on the beliefs of the Blackfoot people, with whom he spent much time and to whom he gave no credit.

http://mmiwontario.ca/images/Maslow%E2%80%99s%20Hierarchy%20Connected%20to%20Blackfoot%20Beliefs.pdf

for example

How should this be presented within the article, if at all? DS (talk) 21:49, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Bump! I just recently learned this too. It should definitely be represented here. bse3 (talk · contribs · count · logs) 20:08, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

typo in the pyramid infographic

The text embedded within the infographic says "physiolgical" instead of "physiological". Noting it here since I don't know how to fix it. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Maslow%27s_Hierarchy_of_Needs.jpg says I can't overwrite it. --2604:2000:1483:694:4968:80BF:331:94DD (talk) 16:55, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

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