de Say
de Say (Saye, Sai) is the surname of an old Norman noble family originating from Sai, Orne. The first records are about William de Say and Picot de Say, Norman conquerors.[1] The de Say family, held lands in England and France.
French origin
The family descends from Picot Avenel de Say, a vassal of Robert I, Duke of Normandy. His son Robert Fitz-Picot, Lord of Aunay, was co-founder in 1060, of the abbey of St Martin at Séez.[2]
England
William and Robert de Say (also called Picot de Say) were the sons of Robert Fitz-Picot and his wife Adelaide.[2] They accompanied William the Conqueror in 1066.
William de Say's descendants inherited the manor of West Greenwich, now known as Deptford, and adopted the Maminot arms, Quarterly, or and gules.[3]
Robert de Say obtained lands in Shropshire, building a motte and bailey castle, known as Clun Castle near Clun, Shropshire. His daughter married the local Welsh lord, Cadwgan ap Bleddyn. Upon Picot de Say's death in 1098, the castle passed to his son, Henry de Say.[2]
Citations
- ^ Foxe (1854), p. 137.
- ^ a b c Seton, Robert. An Old Family: Or, The Setons of Scotland and America, Brentano's, 1899, p. 14
This article incorporates text from this source, which is in the public domain.
- ^ Dunkin (1855), pp. 21-34.
See also
References
- Foxe, John (1854). The Church Historians of England: Reformation Period. Seeleys. Retrieved 13 January 2018.
- Dunkin, Alfred John (1855). History of the County of Kent. Retrieved 13 January 2018.