Talk:Say Say Say/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Credits

I was wondering if anyone had any input on the credits on this song. I was mainly wondering if Ringo Starr played drums.

Info

Update, I searched Google books and couldn't find anything else. Next I'll do Google news. — R ² 14:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Ok, cheers. Pyrrhus16 14:38, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Worse lyrics in a song, for the year 1983. Source = Anthony Violanti. "Schlock: An Unusually Confused and Nasal Dylan". (August 18, 1996). The Buffalo News.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20037860_2,00.html
"Aside from 'Say Say Say' and 'The Man', both co-written and performed with Michael Jackson, McCartney wastes the rest of the album on bathos and whimsy". Source = "Paul McCartney's New Album Is Just 'Embarrassing Fluff'". (January 15, 1983). Lexington Herald-Leader.
"[McCartney] redeemed himself somewhat with the 1983 success of the spunky 'Say Say Say'-another duet with Jackson-but plunged back into wimpdom with 'No More Lonely Nights'". Source = Paul Grein. (January 3, 1988). "Hits That Hurt In Some Cases, That Top 10 Smash Can Smash an Artist's Image". Los Angeles Times.
- OK, add these in, if they aren't already, then we are ready to go. :) — R ² 11:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Conflicting information in The Girl Is Mine article

The year before [recording The Girl is Mine], the duo had recorded "Say Say Say" and "The Man" for McCartney's fifth solo album, Pipes of Peace (1983).

From The Girl Is Mine article with added emphasis. But this article says:

Prior to recording "Say Say Say", McCartney had collaborated with Jackson on "The Girl Is Mine", for Jackson's Thriller album. In return, Jackson agreed to record "Say Say Say" for McCartney's Pipes of Peace.

So both articles claim to be the second duet in terms of when they were recorded. I have no idea which is right. If The Girl is Mine article is right than the Girl Is Mine was recorded second but released first. Gripdamage (talk) 15:36, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I've reworded the section of this article. Pyrrhus16 16:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

No, it's still wrong - it's saying that they'd already worked on The Girl is Mine. It seems however that Say Say Say was recorded Summer 1981 and The Girl is Mine around April 1982. So despite it being released a year afterwards, Say Say Say was recorded first. I can't change the info as it stands however since there are two refs next to it.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 00:06, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Surely there must be some way to address obvious conflicts such as this. If it's wrong, it's wrong. Shouldn't some weight be given to citations? You have multiple biographies of both artists saying one thing (which is then even supported by the artists themselves), and the conflicting information is supported by a Rolling Stone rock-n-roll encyclopedia and an online bio of Paul McCartney, written by music critics? Just because someone made the understandable (and obvious) mistake of using the release date to determine which came first, does not mean that we should accept their mistake as being factual information.--HomeNot —Preceding undated comment added 03:34, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Too violent

"Upon its release, the National Coalition of Television Violence classified the music video as too violent to be aired." Really? --andreasegde (talk) 15:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it might have been to do with the arm wrestle. :) Pyrrhus16 15:22, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

There's no violence in the video. I guess they don't know that arm wrestling is a sport, not a crime. Grundle2600 (talk) 14:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Thats real weird, Say Say Say has no violence, just a comical energy drink scene.

Nikhil121 (talk) 9:28, 29 June 2011 (UTC)