Wikipedia talk:Stable version to revert to

This page may end up being merged into a policy or guideline but until then its a useful way of dealing with stable versions in the mean time. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:08, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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There has been some debate about how long it takes for a change to become stable. There are 2 questions, please indicate which you're answer is for. Things like WP:TITLECHANGES, WP:RETAIN, WP:CFDS and WP:RMCI should be updated if this RFC gains consensus.

(1) How long in general should a version have been in place for it to be considered "stable" for the purpose of obtaining consensus? This isn't intended to be a strict rule but merely give some general rule since sometimes (like with the technical request of Talk:Kereta Api Indonesia#Requested move 8 June 2020) a move made years ago is requested as a revert of an undiscussed move even though the move happened over 2 years ago and in some cases like Omos an unrevert was made that the change was made a month ago even though it had had the same target since 2004 prior to the change.

(2) How long should a version take to be stable for the purpose of WP:RETAIN when a page is edited or renamed against this (and one of the exceptions doesn't apply, such as communality, strong ties or ATDAB)? See examples of Humour and Chinese whispers where this has been debated. @SnowFire, FOARP, Necrothesp, and Calidum: who were involved significantly in the chinese whispers debate on this. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:08, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You pinged a lawyer (me) so I shall a lawyer's answer: It depends. For 1) it really depends how many eyes have been on it and what has been done in the mean time. If literally no-one has even looked at the page since the change was made it is hard to give it much permanence. 2) Same as one. The question is not "how much time" but "what has happened". If there are hundreds of edits and much content added I would say this represents the change settling in. FOARP (talk) 19:03, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You're trying to pin down the un-pin-downable. E Eng 03:54, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]