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Engineering Undergraduate Society of the University of British Columbia

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This article fails to show why it should be included in an encyclopedia. Non-notable. Delete Ardenn 19:42, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Also, please stop biting the newbies Ardenn. The president of a significant real life organization, which is clearly notable is helping to improve this article. Don't delete please. --Nick Dillinger 20:40, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Thank you Nick. I am new, and I am getting no help or suggestions. ryanc 20:41, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's no proof of who he really is, and regardless, it's still NOT NOTABLE. Ardenn 20:44, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Come to my office, at least it will give you peace of mind that I am who I say I am. ryanc 20:47, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Will you pay for the flight from Ottawa? Not everyone who edits here is from BC. Ardenn 20:47, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Honestly, the best proof I can give you is if you check the website. [EUS] it says on the start page that I'm elected. Also you can email the presidents email, it gets forwarded to my hotmail account.ryanc 20:53, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as non-notable student group. Ardenn is altogether correct when she intimates that, irrespective of the propriety of her nominating the article of a newbie, the group is non-notable; no decorous welcome would change that. There are cases in which the subject of an article can be identified as notable even where no assertion of notability is made; in such cases it is surely appropriate for an editor either to improve the article him/herself or to contact the creator and suggest that he/she edit the article in order that notability should be established (or at least that an assertion should be essayed); here, even asd the article presents a good deal of information about the subject, it is eminently clear that the subject is non-notable, which term we generally ascribe to student groups save those which are university-wide (see, e.g., student governments, especially at Canadaian colleges and universities) or otherwise notable (see, e.g., The Whiffenpoofs). Joe 21:06, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The EUS is an internationally known group. In Vancouver alone we are known extremely well for 'hanging the bug', and our red jackets which can be seen all over the city. Many engineers worldwide also have these red jackets. Internationally we also have recognition from our many stunts as seen in the article. I would be more than happy to expand on some of the stunts. FYI The Queen of England, Prince Charles, Boris Yeltsin, and Scotty from Star Trek all have been given reds and have worn them (exception: the Queen did not wear hers to my knownledge). ryanc 21:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or, failing that, merge into Alma Mater Society of the University of British Columbia and/or University of British Columbia. It is a very nicely done article, but it's just non-notable. — Rebelguys2 ^talk 21:09, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot merge it into the AMS or the UBC articles. That's not what they're about. The EUS is a very seperate group. ryanc 21:14, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Merge is surely permissible here; many articles about colleges and universities enumerate active student groups. Joe 21:26, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I'd say this at least provides notability. Gwernol 21:17, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks gwernol, I was looking for that article. Also see this or this. ryanc 21:20, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The "Bug incident" perhaps merits an article more than does the group. If, though, a pattern of noteworthy and well-covered stunts can be demonstrated, then the group would likely be notable. Joe 21:26, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Joe, the start of the article is just the tip of the iceberg. Note that the original bug stunt was in the late 70's on Lion's Gate bridge. A bug was also placed on top of the clocktower at UBC. I have many articles in our archives. ryanc 21:33, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep a society at a school. For great justice. 22:32, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, but will need to cite sources and have more NPOV. Also, see this essay on notability.Andrewjur e n(talk) 23:25, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE I'd actually have put it up for Speedy deletion under db-club. But that's besides the point. The point here is, the wiki community has repeatedly agreed that, in Canada, only the overall Student Society, the one representing al students, such as SSMU, AMS and UASU are noteable enough, in and of themselves, for articles. If the EUS has some other claim to faim, so be it. But at this point, there is no reason for this article. pm_shef 23:37, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ignorance is bliss. There is reason for this article. The EUS is an internationally known society for reasons I've already stated. ryanc 23:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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	'''DELETE''' I'd actually have put it up for Speedy deletion under db-club. But that's besides the point. The point here is, the wiki community has ''repeatedly'' agreed that, in Canada, only the overall Student Society, the one representing al students, such as [[SSMU]], [[Alma Mater Society of the University of British Columbia\|AMS]] and [[University of Alberta Students' Union\|UASU]] are noteable enough, in and of themselves, for articles. If the EUS has some other claim to faim, so be it. But at this point, there is no reason for this article. [[User:Pm shef\|pm_shef]] 23:37, 19 April 2006 (UTC)		'''DELETE''' I'd actually have put it up for Speedy deletion under db-club. But that's besides the point. The point here is, the wiki community has ''repeatedly'' agreed that, in Canada, only the overall Student Society, the one representing al students, such as [[SSMU]], [[Alma Mater Society of the University of British Columbia\|AMS]] and [[University of Alberta Students' Union\|UASU]] are noteable enough, in and of themselves, for articles. If the EUS has some other claim to faim, so be it. But at this point, there is no reason for this article. [[User:Pm shef\|pm_shef]] 23:37, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
			::Ignorance is bliss. There is reason for this article. The EUS is an internationally known society for reasons I've already stated. [[User:Ryan clare@hotmail.com\|ryanc]] 23:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)