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Borat! Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan

A self nomination, with a lot of work done by myself and Wehwalt and a peer review by Daniel Case. Article is well sourced and has passed GA a while ago. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 13:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose, some of the references don't state the publisher name and access date.--The Negotiator 13:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Done some work on the links to add source information. Don't know about access dates. Should I just use today if I can't find them? --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 14:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Certainly, because it only serves to help people who need to use the Wayback Machine when the site changes too much.--Rmky87 14:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Just went and added dates to all the ones I could find. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 15:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
• Still some things need fixing:

1. Two citations still needed.
2. Reference #37 is erroneous and needs fixing.
3. Consider removing the myspace link as they are usually considered "uncyclopedic".
4. Image:Borat - Movie Soundtrack Cover.jpg should be sized down and a source is needed, "Rationale provided by Hahnchen" is also probably not needed in the rationale either.
5. Image:Borat DVD Cover.jpg needs source.
6. Some of the references should be re-ordered so they count up in order.

• • Feel free to leave me a message again if you have done them all or have any questions.--The Negotiator 10:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

1. Done some work with the citations. Hoepfully it will be acceptable now.
2. For some odd reason the link still wouldn't work, so I had to arrange it differently.
3. Will consider
4. Sent a request to the uploader for the source, but he appears to have not edited since January. Will remove if nothing comes up in a few days.
5. I've actually been thinking that one could be replaced with an image of the back of the DVD case, to better illustrate the text (Would such an image be considered a free image if it was a pic taken by a user, or would it have to be fair use?) In addition, it appears to be a promotional image that doesn't actually reflect how the final packaging looks. I'll remove it and put up an image request.
6. Been working on that as well. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 13:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

• Support Great article, well-done. Gunslinger 04:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
• Support Very good page, great job. Gran² 05:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Almost there just a few more ref needed.

The Plot synopsis concerns me the most. Some bit just don't sound right and could be better worded. Such as "He learns to his pleasure that his wife has been killed and resolves to go to California to 'have' Anderson's "vagine" and make her his wife, justifying the trip to Azamat by telling the skeptical producer that "Pearl Harbor is there (California) and so is Texas". A few WW like "beloved" and "In the midst of". Also it could discribe the plot in more detail, there is only a bref mention of the dinner party he attends and the driving lessons he takes. Buc 09:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't remember what scene preceeded the naked fight, otherwise I would remove "In the midst of". I'll try to add some deatil without going on for too long. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 13:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose. Overall this article is not on the same level as other film FAs; please take a look at the Star Wars articles for example.
  • The article has no Cast section which should be mandatory, I suppose.
  • The text is not illustrated well. There should be at least two or three screen shots of key moments of the film. Other images of the production, promotion, etc. would be nice as well. I guess there might be free images of Borat at Flickr for example.
  • Some structural problems; chronological section order would be preferable (production, plot, release, response). Also, why are the deleted scenes in the production section?
  • "Allusions" lacks any kind of reference.
  • What is the logic behind the ratings table? There are four different ratings for Canada, but many major oversee markets such as Japan, Germany, France, etc. are not even mentioned.