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== Trump RFPP ==

Can a sysop protect there article [[Trump]]? There's lots of vandalism and sockpuppetry. I see 14 different accounts vandalizing in the first 50 edits... <small>Can you tell I'm unfamiliar with simple wiki</small> --[[User:Pro-anti-air|<span style="color:green;">pro</span>-<span style="color:red;">anti</span>-<span style="color:gray;">air</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Pro-anti-air|(talk)]]</small> 03:11, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

:Protected for 1 week  '''''[[User:Fr33kman|<span style="color: darkgreen">fr33k</span>]][[User talk:Fr33kman|<span style="color: navy">man</span>]]''''' 04:04, 14 October 2025 (UTC)

== Proposal for deleting [[:Colour]] ==

Hello, please anyone here to delete redirect pages [[:Colour]] because there is a circular redirects right here. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-28889-80|&#126;2025-28889-80]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-28889-80|talk]]) 12:17, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

:Done. All it required was reverting the most recent edit (or simply removing the u in the redirect target). [[User:CountryANDWestern|CountryANDWestern]] ([[User talk:CountryANDWestern|talk]]) 12:32, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
:CaW has fixed this, there's a bot on enwiki that can fix this sort of thing, but it was just a case of changing the redirect location. '''[[User:Lee Vilenski|<span style="color:green">Lee Vilenski</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lee Vilenski|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/Lee Vilenski|contribs]])</sup>''' 13:46, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
:Really it shouldn't have been moved in the first place per [[:w:en:WP:ENGVAR]] as "colour" had been established for a long time... --[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] <small>([[User talk:Ferien|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User:Ferien/TBA|join TBA!]])</small> 14:24, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

== Article creations by ~2025-27713-23 ==

{{User5|~2025-27713-23}}

This user has a long history of creating articles that contain no wikilinks and contain no sources.  They did this on a stable IP for a year and a half.  Now they are doing the same on this temporary account.  I brought this up to them at their talk page several times.  Yesterday, I gave a final warning about making sure their articles complied with expectations and standards.  After that final warning, they made [[John Boy and Billy]], another article with no wikilinks, no sources.  In the year and a half between the stable IP and this temporary account, the user has not made a single edit to a talk page or discussion despite warnings and RFDs opened against their articles.  I am seeking administrative support in addressing this user for their continued creation of articles that contain no sources and their lack of engagement in conversation about the concerns. [[User:CountryANDWestern|CountryANDWestern]] ([[User talk:CountryANDWestern|talk]]) 15:00, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

:Eight minutes after I notified them of this thread, they created [[Salsarita's Fresh Mexican Grill]]. [[User:CountryANDWestern|CountryANDWestern]] ([[User talk:CountryANDWestern|talk]]) 15:11, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
:I am slightly torn on this because their articles are... meh. They are not dreadful but the lack of referencing and linking is poor. The way they format the articles is also wrong. They do not seem to be bot created at least, and the issues can be quite quick to fix &ndash; so I'm not sure blocking would necessarily be a net positive &ndash; but [[:w:en:WP:ENGAGE|communication is required]] and they have failed to do this. So if I were to block for this, it would more be down the direction of lack of communication. I will at least go about fixing the articles they've created as a first step. --[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] <small>([[User talk:Ferien|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User:Ferien/TBA|join TBA!]])</small> 15:18, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
::Going through just a couple of their articles, I just spotted that they are copying their articles from the English Wikipedia. While doing so when it's not that complex is fine - as has been the case most of the time here - attribution is required and they haven't been providing that either. So I've blocked them based on that. --[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] <small>([[User talk:Ferien|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User:Ferien/TBA|join TBA!]])</small> 15:27, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
::It's actually the backlog drive that really hammered home must how many of these types of articles they've made.  Dozens in the category were their creations. [[User:CountryANDWestern|CountryANDWestern]] ([[User talk:CountryANDWestern|talk]]) 15:28, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
:::If you aren't all that sure on how to edit, copy & pasting the visual text from enwiki here makes some sense - it makes sense that it happens a lot. It's just not really that helpful. '''[[User:Lee Vilenski|<span style="color:green">Lee Vilenski</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lee Vilenski|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/Lee Vilenski|contribs]])</sup>''' 13:01, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

== I only have 'a feeling' that the one article, is associated with other 'similarly non-okay' articles ==

simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/~2025-28322-34<br>
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I came across these, while checking thru the last 24 hours, 'second coming of  [[Etymology of Junagadh]]'; That last article was maybe 'quite POV and quite not to the point, in regard to the title'.--I will try to see how some of the 'contributed articles' develop.--Just wanted to share my 'not-so-good outlook' in regard to one 'authorship'.--If this post is not regarded as helpful, then please ignore it. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-28382-09|&#126;2025-28382-09]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-28382-09|talk]]) 21:10, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
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Does the following diff show some sort of wiki-vigilantism?<br>
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simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Etymology_of_Sindh&diff=prev&oldid=10574504<br>. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-28382-09|&#126;2025-28382-09]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-28382-09|talk]]) 21:13, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
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Dubious, maybe:<br>
simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Etymology_of_Sindh&oldid=10576162<br>
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Can one rule out that the user should be prevented temporarily from making '''new''' articles (and be encouraged to fix articles that s/he has created)? [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-28382-09|&#126;2025-28382-09]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-28382-09|talk]]) 06:57, 17 October 2025 (UTC)

== Fixing [[User talk:Catcus DeMeowwy]] ==

[[User talk:Catcus DeMeowwy]] was improperly archived. Sorry if I jumped the gun a bit in what I did, but can we do a page history merge as described in the QD template to get all of the talk stuff back to the talk page so it can be properly archived? [[User:Immanuelle|'''Immanuel'''le]] ❤️💚💙 [[User_talk:Immanuelle|(please tag me)]] 01:22, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

== Request: Protect all pages ==

Can you protect all pages so that there is no vandalism? [[User:Miguelpanda|Miguelpanda]] ([[User talk:Miguelpanda|talk]]) 08:22, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

:No. -[[User:Barras|<span style="color:blue; font-family:Bookman Old Style">'''Barras'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Barras|<span style="color:red; font-family:Bookman Old Style">'''talk'''</span>]] 11:20, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
::This is a Wikipedia, with very few exceptions, any user can change any page. Protecting all articles so that they can no longer be changed is pointless, as it would prevent people from improving them. [[User:Eptalon|Eptalon]] ([[User talk:Eptalon|talk]]) 13:08, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

== [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ==

[[User:BZPN|BZPN]] has been [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#c-The_Bushranger-20251018181800-Proposal:BZPN_site_banned_for_WP:NOTHERE community-banned] from English Wikipedia. Given the disruptive editing history of this user, admins may consider a reciprocal ban. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-29346-09|&#126;2025-29346-09]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-29346-09|talk]]) 17:39, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

:I recommend that you first familiarize yourself with [[WP:ONESTRIKE]], then we can talk about it. [[User:BZPN|<strong><span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family: 'Linux Libertine', serif;">BZPN</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:BZPN|<span style="color:black; font-family: 'Linux Libertine', serif;">talk</span>]]) 17:42, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
:{{Ec}} Thanks for the notice. It is worth noting that BZPN has been a significantly more constructive contributor here and in my view, he is not yet at the point where he is mainly contributing to spread his beliefs on LGBT topics. He also hasn't edited since September so just because he's blocked on enwiki doesn't mean he can be blocked off the bat. That being said, our [[WP:ONESTRIKE|one-strike policy]] will now apply to him as an editor blocked on another wiki, meaning breaking the rules even once can now result in a block. --[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] <small>([[User talk:Ferien|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User:Ferien/TBA|join TBA!]])</small> 17:44, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

== Talk page can not be created (for one article) ==

Anyone can revert vandalism; The talk page should be informed about diff,<br>
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simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Male_enhancement&diff=10583533&oldid=9644998<br>
<br>.--If '''that''' is not helpful, then never mind.<br>
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If '''this'''' thread should be moved to Simple-Talk, then please say so, here (or just move this). Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-28382-09|&#126;2025-28382-09]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-28382-09|talk]]) 12:32, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:I have reverted the edit and warned the user. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 13:02, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

== [[User:Refai881]] ==

This person was warned on Sunday about copy-and-paste from ENwiki without attribution or simplification. They have continued doing it (see [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deaths_in_April_2025&diff=prev&oldid=10583361 this today]), and have proved to be a very troublesome editor, as per [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_deletion&diff=prev&oldid=10579911 this]. I recommend an indefinite block for persistently making bad edits. Thanks. [[User:BlackJack|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #0000ff;color: white">'''Jack'''</span>]] ([[User talk:BlackJack|<span style="color: #0000ff">talk</span>]]) 13:40, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:I will note that their article creations haven't had attribution issues because it's created in the change summary when using the translation tool.  That being said, I think a block is worth exploring from the [[WP:ONESTRIKE]] perspective as well. They are currently blocked at the Indonesian wiki for creating bad articles (in that case, very short articles).  However, I noted in their [https://id.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Istimewa:Catatan&page=User%3ARefai881&type=block block log there] that they were blocked in 2024 for (what Google Translate says is...) "Still translating raw text from En. Please tidy up and rearrange the sentence structure before copying and pasting the machine translation" and "Sloppy translation spam."  That sounds like what's going on here, too.  Note that they have not been indefinitely blocked there, but have been given short blocks for similar behaviors that we are seeing here. [[User:CountryANDWestern|CountryANDWestern]] ([[User talk:CountryANDWestern|talk]]) 14:03, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:{{done}} I didn't notice the block on enwiki but given the number of copied articles and times they've been told to stop, a block was the right course of action either way. --[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] <small>([[User talk:Ferien|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User:Ferien/TBA|join TBA!]])</small> 15:01, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

== Disruptive editing ==

I have been [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Vandalism_in_progress&diff=prev&oldid=10583649 directed] by an admin to take this here. I notice that [[Special:Contributions/Polygnotus|this user]] made the following edits that look disruptive.

* [[Profanity]] use in editing summary: [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bergen-Belsen_concentration_camp&diff=prev&oldid=10559479 1]

* Unexplained mass deletions: [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cult&diff=prev&oldid=10561180 2], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Judaism_and_antisemitism&diff=prev&oldid=10560976 3], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion&diff=prev&oldid=10437033 4]

* Misleading editing summaries, e.g. snide remarks, calling reliably sourced content "spam": [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Judaism_and_antisemitism&diff=prev&oldid=10560964 5], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union&diff=prev&oldid=10560960 6], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antisemitism_in_East_Germany&diff=prev&oldid=10560957 7], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rootless_cosmopolitan&diff=prev&oldid=10560949 8], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rootless_cosmopolitan&diff=prev&oldid=10560908 9], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion&diff=prev&oldid=10437048 10], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nation_of_Islam&diff=prev&oldid=10409961 11], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nation_of_Islam&diff=prev&oldid=10409960 12], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bosnian_genocide&diff=prev&oldid=10380347 13], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holodomor&diff=prev&oldid=10380337 14]
** Suspected [[Wikipedia:No original research|original research]] in editing summaries: [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nation_of_Islam&diff=prev&oldid=10409953 15], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Louis_Farrakhan&diff=prev&oldid=10410050 16], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Louis_Farrakhan&diff=prev&oldid=10410076 17], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alt-right&diff=prev&oldid=10416365 18], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Judeo-Masonic_conspiracy_theory&diff=prev&oldid=10434885 19], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khazars&diff=prev&oldid=10380348 20], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bosnian_genocide&diff=prev&oldid=10380347 21], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antisemitism&diff=prev&oldid=10380306 22], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Misandry&diff=prev&oldid=10380303 23]

There is little to no evidence of the user explaining their mass deletions on the Talk pages either. According to [[Wikipedia:Vandalism#How to fight vandalism|your policy]], the following edits can be considered vandalism:

{{tq|[[Change summary]] - this is meant to tell other users what has been changed. Many vandals do not write anything, but if they do, it appears in [[bracket]]s "(" and ")" and in ''[[italic]]s.'' Look especially for common sentences like "Fixed typo" or "Added content" - these are called [[Wikipedia:Canned edit summaries|"canned" summaries]] and can often be "misleading", or in other words, not tell the [[truth]]. It may look to be any other normal change, but could be vandalism.}}

Looking up the [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Polygnotus&target=Polygnotus&dir=prev&limit=500 earlier edits] of the user, this looks like a behavioral pattern. If this happened once or twice, it might be excused as [[Wikipedia:Be bold|bold editing]]. If this happened dozens of times over an extended period, it is inexcusably disruptive. If this happened on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism#Types_of_vandalism English Wikipedia], it would be dealt with quickly as well. No matter what the reasons are, editing this way is unacceptable. It is unclear why no interventions seem to have occurred when the violations are apparent. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-29340-35|&#126;2025-29340-35]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-29340-35|talk]]) 15:00, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|~2025-29340-35}}, when mentioning issues here, make sure to give them a notice that they might be involved in this discussion. I have given it here. --[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] <small>([[User talk:Ferien|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[User:Ferien/TBA|join TBA!]])</small> 15:04, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:Ferien|Ferien]] Thanks! [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 15:06, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:There's been about a dozen or so large removals of content that was mostly if not all cited. I can't at present comment on whether the removals were justified or not, but I do believe they should be considered in the light of [[w:WP:PRESERVE]], which is a major part of editing policy. [[User:BlackJack|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #0000ff;color: white">'''Jack'''</span>]] ([[User talk:BlackJack|<span style="color: #0000ff">talk</span>]]) 15:12, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
::In this case, the user [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Weaponization_of_antisemitism&diff=prev&oldid=10382923 blanked an entire article] without reasonable justifications. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-29581-63|&#126;2025-29581-63]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-29581-63|talk]]) 15:20, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:::Because the article was the opposite of the actual meaning of the term... as explained in the editsummary. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 15:21, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
::::The content deleted was [https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Weaponization_of_antisemitism&oldid=10361925 backed] by reliable sources. How is reliably sourced content an opposite of the actual meaning? Who to define what qualifies as actual meaning? [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-29581-63|&#126;2025-29581-63]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-29581-63|talk]]) 15:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::Spamming a bunch of fake refs that don't support the claim made in the article may be your favourite strategy, but on Wikipedia you need to accurately represent what the source says. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 15:25, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::{{tq|Spamming a bunch of fake refs that don't support the claim made in the article may be your favourite strategy}}
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::::::I am [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|not sure]] if saying stuff like this is appropriate. We also don't know what you mean by "fake refs". You already did it twice in the same thread: [https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#c-Polygnotus-20251021151400-~2025-29340-35-20251021150000 1], [https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#c-Polygnotus-20251021152200-~2025-29581-63-20251021151800 2]. This is [[Wikipedia:Be kind#Examples|not civil]] or [[Wikipedia:Disruptive changing#Signs of disruptive changing|constructive]]. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-29581-63|&#126;2025-29581-63]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-29581-63|talk]]) 15:30, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:About 120,000 people were held in the concentration camp. At ''least'' 52,000 of those people died in a very short amount of time. "fuck me" was never a more appropriate editsummary.
:@[[User:BlackJack|BlackJack]] Ah, you weren't here when that happened. Long story short, there was a massive spam campaign by some dude. See [[User:Polygnotus/tmp]]. I have cleaned up much but not all of the mess. Fr33kman and Ferien will probably already know the story. The person responsible spammed massive amounts of fake refs anywhere, not as references but to spread their POV.
:@[[User:~2025-29340-35|~2025-29340-35]] What previous accounts/IP addresses have you edited under? Also how did you end up here talking about this subject? I know the answer, but I am still curious how you would answer that question. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 15:14, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
::It would be good if we can avoid [[w:WP:Casting aspersions|casting aspersions]]. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-29581-63|&#126;2025-29581-63]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-29581-63|talk]]) 15:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:::That doesn't answer the questions. What previous accounts/IP addresses have you edited under? Also how did you end up here talking about this subject? [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 15:22, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
::Hi, {{u|Polygnotus}}. Thanks for the ping, and fair enough. We get a lot of massive campaigns here, spam and otherwise. I actually enjoy blowing them up, ha! [[User:BlackJack|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #0000ff;color: white">'''Jack'''</span>]] ([[User talk:BlackJack|<span style="color: #0000ff">talk</span>]]) 15:54, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:::That does not excuse repeated rule violations as shown by the evidence. One does not get a free pass for breaking rules [[w:WP:PRESERVE|just because they believe they are right]]. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-29581-63|&#126;2025-29581-63]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-29581-63|talk]]) 15:57, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:BlackJack|BlackJack]] Yeah I was actually thinking of writing a tool to massundo the work of vandals/spammers/povpushers and the like, which takes into account things like editconflicts and gives the user a convenient way to choose what to keep. Programming skills getting a bit rusty so it may be good exercise.
:::I dealt with this one guy on enwiki who had been going for 2 years, undetected. Some people are really persistent! If I ever finish it I'll drop a link here for the admins. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 15:57, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
::::That would be a really useful utility. They could do with one at enwiki to deal with all the sports stubs they are draftifying. I think we have to take a stand against anyone who is mass-editing without a good and acceptable reason. Spamming is never good or acceptable. [[User:BlackJack|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #0000ff;color: white">'''Jack'''</span>]] ([[User talk:BlackJack|<span style="color: #0000ff">talk</span>]]) 16:09, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::What reason is so compelling that makes profanity use in editing summary, unexplained mass deletions and misleading editing summaries justified for every single edit made by a specific user? Rules on user conduct need to be enforced equally. No users should be treated differently just because they believe or are claimed by some to be doing something right. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2025-29581-63|&#126;2025-29581-63]] ([[User talk:&#126;2025-29581-63|talk]]) 16:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC)