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== Survey: Help improve Kartographer ==

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''Sorry for cross-posting''

Do you create interactive maps with [[mw:Help:Extension:Kartographer|Kartographer]] (mapframe)? If your answer is yes, we would like to hear from you. Please take part in our survey and help improve Kartographer!

Some background: Wikimedia Germany's [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes|Technical Wishes team]] is currently working on the [[mw:Help:Extension:Kartographer|Kartographer extension]]. Over the last few months, we have been working on a solution to make this software usable on [[phab:T191585|wikis where it isn’t available yet]]. In the next phase of the project, we are planning to improve Kartographer itself.

Because Kartographer is used quite a lot on this wiki, we would like to ask you: '''Where do you run into problems using it? Which new features would you like to see?''' Editors of all experience levels and with all workflows around Kartographer are welcome to participate. 

'''Here is the survey: https://wikimedia.sslsurvey.de/Kartographer-Workflows-EN/'''

* The survey is open until March 31.
* It takes 10-15 minutes to complete.
* The survey is anonymous. You don't need to register, and we will not store any personal data which identifies you, such as your name or IP address.

More information on our work with Kartographer and the focus area of Geoinformation can be found [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/Geoinformation|on our project page]]. 

Thank you for your help! – [[m:user:Johanna Strodt (WMDE)|Johanna Strodt (WMDE)]] ([[m:user talk:Johanna Strodt (WMDE)|talk]]) 13:20, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

== Map for foreign trips of Pope Paul VI ==

The map [File:Foreign trips of Paul VI.png] used in both [[List of pastoral visits of Pope Paul VI]] and [[Papal travel]] has several errors.  The map was created on 16 January 2010.  According to a 19 January 2011 note left on the map's Discussion page, the changes should include the following: 

:: "This map has four errors which need to be corrected.

:: * The first two are rather confusing.  You may want to read the Wikipedia article on '''[[Bangladesh]]''' for further clarification.  In 1970, Pope Paul VI visited the city of Dacca, Pakistan.  However Dacca is now [[Dhaka]] and is the capital city of Bangladesh.  When the Pope visited Dacca, it was located in the part of Pakistan that was then known as [[East Pakistan]]. After the [[Bangladesh Liberation War]] in 1971, East Pakistan broke away from Pakistan and became the seperate nation of Bangladesh.  Therefore, '''Pakistan''' should NOT be colored yellow on this map and Bangladesh SHOULD be colored yellow.

:: * '''Jordan''' was visited by Pope Paul VI in 1964.  It SHOULD be colored yellow.

:: * '''France''' was NOT visited by Pope Paul VI during his papacy.  It should NOT be colored yellow." 

Is there anyone who can either edit the existing map OR create a new map with the correct information?  The list of countries to be highlighted can be found at [[List of pastoral visits of Pope Paul VI]] with the very important notation re: Bangladesh as '''EAST''' Pakistan.  I generally try to be self-sufficient with my Wikipedia editing but editing/creating a map is outside my skill set.  Any assistance is greatly appreciated.  [[User:Mtminchi08|Mtminchi08]] ([[User talk:Mtminchi08|talk]]) 00:41, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

:{{re|Mtminchi08}} Hi, is [[:commons:File:Foreign trips of Paul VI.svg]] good enough? [[File:Foreign trips of Paul VI.svg|thumb|New map]] — [[User:Golden|<span style="color:#0F52BA;">Golden</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Golden|<span style="font-size:82%"><span>''call me maybe?''</span></span>]]</sup> 07:41, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
::That is great! Thank you! I will add the new maps to the appropriate articles later today. [[User:Mtminchi08|Mtminchi08]] ([[User talk:Mtminchi08|talk]]) 11:29, 12 April 2022 (UTC)∆
:::Glad to help. — [[User:Golden|<span style="color:#0F52BA;">Golden</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Golden|<span style="font-size:82%"><span>''call me maybe?''</span></span>]]</sup> 16:35, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

== User script to detect unreliable sources ==

{{Main|User:Headbomb/unreliable}}
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to [[WP:URS|unreliable sources]] and [[predatory journal]]s. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the [[Wikipedia:User scripts/Most imported scripts|39th most imported script on Wikipedia]]. The idea is that it takes something like
*John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14. (<code><nowiki>John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.</nowiki></code>)
and turns it into something like
* John Smith "{{highlight|[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]|pink}}" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{tl|cite web}}, {{tl|cite journal}} and {{tl|doi}}.

The script is mostly based on [[WP:RSPSOURCES]], [[WP:NPPSG]] and [[WP:CITEWATCH]] and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is '''not a script to be mindlessly used''', and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at [[User:Headbomb/unreliable]]. Questions, comments and requests can be made at [[User talk:Headbomb/unreliable]].

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== Fantasy Cartography ==

Hello WP:Maps, I'm currently working on the page [[Fantasy cartography|Fantasy Cartography]] and would greatly appreciate any help/feedback to improve the article!
I'm working on it as part of my undergraduate degree - I'm taking a course in wikipedia editing so this is my fist serious foray into the wikipedian community. --[[User:Twomatters|Twomatters]] ([[User talk:Twomatters|talk]]) 00:59, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

== Wikimaps warper help ==

I tried wrapping a map from commons: [[c:File:Karte von Syrien. den Manen Jacotin's und Burckhardt's gewidmet. von H. Berghaus.jpg]]. In Wikimaps it shows the correct area of OSM, but the old map doesn't show (even on 0 transparency). I can't find any help page over there. What might the problem be? [[User:Danny lost|trespassers william]] ([[User talk:Danny lost|talk]]) 19:43, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

: {{ping|Danny lost}} The ''Warper'' tool with this map is working fine in my environment. Are you still having trouble seeing the georef map overlay? [[User:DutchTreat|DutchTreat]] ([[User talk:DutchTreat|talk]]) 16:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

:: {{ping|DutchTreat}} See talk there. [[User:Danny lost|trespassers william]] ([[User talk:Danny lost|talk]])

== Outline around map object area ==

Hello, how do I make the map show an outline around an area as seen here:

[[Klipriviersberg Nature Reserve]]

I tried copying the template but it doesn't work here:

[[Umtiza Nature Reserve]] 

The both areas contain the wikidata tag in OSM

[[User:Maqdisi|Maqdisi]] ([[User talk:Maqdisi|talk]]) 11:46, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

:This was asked at the Helpdesk ([[Wikipedia:Help_desk#Outline_frame_around_map_object_area|link]]). 

:I found [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Kartographer/OSM#How_to_add_Wikidata_ID_to_OSM some Mediawiki guidance], which suggested that Umtiza Nature Reserve on Open Street Map needed to be linked to its Wikidata item.

:However [[Suikerbosrand Nature Reserve]] has an openstreetmap entry https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/589157082#map=12/-26.4886/28.2486 linked to Wikipedia and Wikidata, but doesn't have the outline. Any better suggestions? [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 14:12, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

== Showing land use over time? ==

I want to make a dynamic map for [[West Farms Soldiers Cemetery]], showing how land use changed over the years.  There's several parcels of land near each other which were sequentially used as burial grounds by various owners.  A church was built on one.  Another church was built across the street.  The first one burned down and now the land is used for something else.   I envision a graphic with these various configurations all drawn on the same base map, and some kind of control that lets you scroll through the years to see what it was like at a given year.  Is there some pre-existing tool or framework that would let me do that? -- [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 17:41, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|RoySmith}} are you looking for an animated GIF maker? [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 18:01, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
::I suppose that's one possible way to do it.  I don't know much about animated gifs, but my understanding is they run at some fixed speed.  Is there a way to hook a user control up to one to let somebody scroll through the frames at their own pace? -- [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 18:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
:::The time is kind of flexible (it doesn't have to be the same for each frame). Unfortunately, AFAIK, allowing the end user to pause the frames can't be done on Wikipdia. As a workaround (depending on what you have in mind and the quality of the images involved), you could use a video (you can even start by creating an animated GIF and then convert it to ogr if you're still not happy with it). [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 19:03, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

== Support for generating OpenStreetMap dynamic maps into static maps on Wikivoyage ==

In a [[:Wikivoyage:Wikivoyage:Travellers' pub#Call for presentations for WCNA 2022 and Mapping USA|conversation on the Wikivoyage:Travellers' pub]] (just after the WNCA 2022 / Mapping USA presentations call), a user suggested {{tq|that a tool be created to easily convert OpenStreetMap dynamic maps into Wikivoyage-style static maps.}} It seems to me that this already exists & is being used here on English Wikipedia. Would someone from this project please reach out to that user on Wikivoyage about such tools? [[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 15:47, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

== Call for presentations for WCNA 2022 and Mapping USA ==

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|<big><div class="center">'''''Call for presentations for [[:wikiconference:2022/Main_Page|WikiConference North America 2022]] and [[:OSMwiki:United_States/Events/Mapping USA/2022|OpenStreetMap US's Mapping USA]]'''''</div></big>
This is a call for presentations by Sunday, October 15 for [[:Wikiconference:2022|WikiConference North America]] (Nov 11-13) held jointly with OpenStreetMap US's [https://mappingusa.org/ Mapping USA]. We encourage you to please submit your Wikipedia and other Wikimedia project proposals at [[:Wikiconference:2022/Submissions]] and OpenStreetMap US proposals at [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeJuZPa-01jb53u82YXRPlxZp2xad6I_StrbZQKacdbnWxd-Q/viewform Call for Proposals: WikiConference North America + Mapping USA]. On Friday, Nov 11, we are looking for lightning talks in particular. We welcome workshops, editathons/mapthons, birds of a feathers, and presentations on Saturday and Sunday.

Some suggestions:
*Cultural similarities and differences, for instance OpenStreetMap and Wikivoyage (map and describe what you know) versus Wikipedia (verify with citations)
*Type of licensing for each project and how they differ: Wikipedia, OpenStreetMap, Commons, Wikidata, and Wikivoyage
*The flow of information from one project into another, and how maps are generated and used
*How [https://openhistoricalmap.org/ OpenHistoricalMaps] works and possible interactions with Wikimedia projects
*Your ideas!
[[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 15:52, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
|[[File:Mapping usa 2022.svg|right|250px|MaggieMaps CC-By-SA]]
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== Does anyone have any suggestions for improving the maps on [[Busta Rhymes Island]] ==

Hi all

I've started the article for [[Busta Rhymes Island]], does anyone have any suggestions for improving the maps on the article? Maybe something using Kartographer? Please feel free to make changes, I don't have the technical ability to do it myself. 

[[User:John Cummings|John Cummings]] ([[User talk:John Cummings|talk]]) 13:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

==routing==
I'm pretty familiar with the mapping solutions we have, and I'm particularly fond of using {{tl|OSM Location map}}, but I can't find any project solutions for making a map that illustrates a route taken.  Say we knew the details, and wanted to map the route taken by the protestors involved in the [[St. Louis gun-toting incident]]; do we have anything like that (that doesn't involve creating graphics&mdash;a deficit of my wheelhouse)?  Thanks,  —  '''[[user:fourthords|<span style="color:#CC0000">Fourthords</span>]] &#124; [[user talk:fourthords|=Λ=]] &#124;''' 15:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|Fourthords}} One option to consider is storing the route as a [[mw:Help:Map Data|Data:name.map]] on ''Commons''. Use the {{tl|Maplink}} template to draw the line.  Provide the '''from''' parameter with the name of the ''Data'' file. Additional points of interest can be added directly in the template call from the article.
:See an [[Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Pavilion#How to get there|example of this technique]] which shows walking instructions. The steps are  from the MTA subway to a meeting place in a park. Let me know if you need any additional pointers. - [[User:DutchTreat|DutchTreat]] ([[User talk:DutchTreat|talk]]) 16:16, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
:: Thank you so much!  Tedium, thy name is manually calculating and inputting route coordinates for {{convert|6.1|mi}} of road.  If I run into any glitches, I may hit you up!  Thanks again!  —  '''[[user:fourthords|<span style="color:#CC0000">Fourthords</span>]] &#124; [[user talk:fourthords|=Λ=]] &#124;''' 14:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Fourthords}} There is an easy way to build the GeoJSON interactively from a map. Try the tool [https://geojson.io/ geojson.io] from ''[[Mapbox]]''.  If you have any troubles, let me know. [[User:DutchTreat|DutchTreat]] ([[User talk:DutchTreat|talk]]) 14:32, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
:::: Holy shit that would've been so much easier than plotting each point on Google Maps and copying the coordinates one at a time to the Commons.  I'll definitely use that next time!  Thanks again!!  —  '''[[user:fourthords|<span style="color:#CC0000">Fourthords</span>]] &#124; [[user talk:fourthords|=Λ=]] &#124;''' 14:45, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

== a better map for "Nineteen Eighty-Four" and "Political geography of Nineteen Eighty-Four" ==

[[File:1984_fictitious_world_map_v2_quad.svg|thumb|200px|existing map]]
'''Articles:''' [[Nineteen Eighty-Four]] and [[Political geography of Nineteen Eighty-Four]]

Hey, everyone, I came across the map to the side and have a number of problems with it. I would like to create a new map without these problems, but would like opinions first. Please, if anyone finds the time, come over to [[Talk:Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Map_incorrect?_Opinions?]] where I laid out my problems and asked for opinion. Any input is appreciated. Thanks! --[[User:Lommes|Lommes]] ([[User talk:Lommes|talk]]) 17:10, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

== Update or remove map from Wikimaps Warper ==

I upladed this map to Commons: [[:File:Admiralty Chart No 1273 St Lucia, Published 1889.jpg]]. I started to georeference it in the warper, but noticed some pencilled annotations that I hadn't spotted previously. I erased these from the paper chart, rescanned it and uploaded the new version. However Wikimaps Warper continues to use the old version. I have tried removing the Map template, logging out, logging back in and reentering the Map details, but Warper still sees the old version. How do I get Warper to update the file it uses, or alternatively remove the file from Warper and replace it with the new one? Many thanks. [[User:Kognos|Kognos]] ([[User talk:Kognos|talk]]) 12:46, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

::I don't know the answer to the warper question, but thought I'd mention that the 1889 date on there is misleading, that's when first published, but it's had updates since then, the most recent being 1991, they're listed in the lower right corner. The giveaway was it showing the airport.  Great map though.  [[User:Kmusser|Kmusser]] ([[User talk:Kmusser|talk]]) 15:30, 4 December 2022 (UTC)