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== uw-coi and uw-paid ==

I think that the {{tl|uw-coi}} and {{tl|uw-paid}} templates can be improved.

In my experience people who read those templates perceive them as an attack, even if it is clear that they have a COI/are being paid. 

I don't think that that is the intention behind the templates, and people don't respond in the way we want them to (e.g. they become defensive or hostile, which is counterproductive).

I have some quick drafts that are less likely to illicit a negative response:

*[[User:Polygnotus/Templates/FriendlyCOI]]
*[[User:Polygnotus/Templates/FriendlyPAID]]

Feel free to edit them, they are drafts and far from perfect. These are just some quick examples to illustrate my point.

What do y'all think? [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 02:27, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
: {{ping|Polygnotus}} I agree 100% with what you say about the existing templates. They are seriously in need of major rewriting. I haven't yet studied your draft replacements, because I'm out of time, but I'll try to remember to come back to them and have a look. [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 00:04, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
::I like the overall idea.  The new drafts definitely need more links.  We shouldn't assume, for example, that new editors know what a talk page is. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 03:16, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
: I like the bulleting in both originals and your drafts, and I like the bolding in the originals. Definitely worth pursuing. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 23:29, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]], are you interested in pursuing this? [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 21:00, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] Yes, but I am about as diplomatic as getting trampled by a mammoth and a truly terrible writer. You are a wordsmith, smarter than I am, and this joke of a language is your native one. And you are experienced with getting things done in this area of Wikipedia, while I have to be bold and hope no one notices. I do however know that people almost universally react very negatively when you post uw-coi or uw-paid on their talkpage, as if you insulted their child. And I do not care if someone is getting paid or not, if their edits are not an improvement I am going to revert them anyway. Enforcing the Terms of Service is not my job. I want people to follow the rules, and it is more likely that they do that if I post a template that politely asks them to. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 01:54, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Also I am not an admin or template editor so I can't edit the template directly. And I have very little experience with the DR process (except in achieving a numerical majority). [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 02:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::::Well, do you mind if @[[User:JBW|JBW]], @[[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]], or I edit [[User:Polygnotus/Templates/FriendlyCOI]] and [[User:Polygnotus/Templates/FriendlyPAID]], so we can try to incorporate some of these ideas? [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 02:43, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] Anyone is free to edit any page in my userspace, except vandals. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 02:55, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::::: Am willing to assist in principle, but short on time at the moment but will contribute as I can. Before we get to it, let me just clarify or ask whether you want to change existing templates by incorporating new wording or other ideas here, or whether you want to create parallel templates in a kinder, gentler form that co-exist with existing ones? There is precedent for the latter, if that's what you want. Consider templates {{t|uw-subtle1}} and {{t|uw-subtle2}} compared to {{t|uw-vandalism1}} and {{t|uw-vandalism2}}. (Note: {{t|uw-subtle3}} and {{t|uw-subtle4}} exist, but are not all that different from uw-v3 and uw-v4.) So are we doing something like uw-coi-subtle and uw-paid-subtle alongside the existing ones, or replacing them? {{ec}} [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 03:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] We had a previous conversation over at [[User_talk:WhatamIdoing#Biting]] where WhatamIdoing wrote: {{tq| It would be better to try to replace the existing templates.}} [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 03:02, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::::::: Thanks for the clarification. Now that the goal is clear, it should be easier to get there. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 03:08, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

: Thank you for pinging me, {{u|WhatamIdoing}}. As I said, I intended to look at this long ago. The fact that I didn't is largely a result of attention deficit disorder, the biggest plague of my life.

: I agree that the existing templates should be replaced. The trouble with leaving them in place and just creating alternative is that experience shows that scarcely anyone will actually use the new ones. Most people won't even realise they are there, and others will continue with the old ones because of a remarkably common impression that they are in some sense the "official" notifications, which "should" be used.

: The suggested templates look pretty good to me. One change I would make, though, is to add explicit mention of the relevant guidelines etc; for example, [[User:Polygnotus/Templates/FriendlyCOI]] contains a link to the conflict of interest guideline, but it doesn't say that that's what it is. I would put in something like "a fuller explanation us in [[WP:COI|Wikipedia's guideline on conflict of interest]]", or "you may like to look at [[WP:COI|Wikipedia's guideline on conflict of interest]] for further information. I also see that that page says "As a reminder, the Wikimedia Terms of Use require disclosing any paid editing relationships..." but it isn't a reminder, because the fact hasn't been mentioned before on that page, and there's no reason to expect the editor to have previously been told about it. [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 20:36, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

== Adding a warning template for multiple issues at once ==

Recently I've seen several instances where I thought it would be necessary to warn a user for several rule violations at once, e.g. for adding original research and not maintaining a neutral point of view in the same edit. Anyone else think this may be useful? <span style="font-family:Berlin Sans FB;padding:3px;">[[User:GommehGaming101|<span style="color:red">'''Gommeh'''</span>]] ([[User talk:GommehGaming101|<b>talk</b>]]/[[Special:Contributions/GommehGaming101|<b>contribs</b>]])</span>  15:02, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

:I'll defer to other editors on this, but I think there may be an argument that if you're going to give an editor multiple warnings at the same time that perhaps it would be better to write a single message that encapsulates the issues rather than (arguably somewhat rudely) dropping a bunch of different warnings on them. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 17:39, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
::My thoughts exactly. I did some thinking and thought it might end up looking something like this:
::<code><nowiki>{{uw-multiple|Article name here|warning type 1|warning type 2|etc...|}}</nowiki></code>
::I would have no idea how to code a template like that though. <span style="font-family:Berlin Sans FB;padding:3px;">[[User:GommehGaming101|<span style="color:red">'''Gommeh'''</span>]] ([[User talk:GommehGaming101|<b>talk</b>]]/[[Special:Contributions/GommehGaming101|<b>contribs</b>]])</span>  17:43, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
:::I think you misunderstand me. How would that translate into a single coherent message, especially when the warnings are likely to be different with each use of the template? [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 17:46, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
::::I think you're misunderstanding ''me'' - you assumed that what I put above would mean something among the lines of copying the text of a warning template such as <code><nowiki>{{uw-vandalism1}}</nowiki></code> into a new template. What I am suggesting is something more like this: "Your edit at (insert article here) appears to have multiple issues: (bullet point list of suspected violations here)". Admittedly I'm not sure how you could implement the warning system here.
::::So <code><nowiki>{{uw-multiple|Example article|You added content that does not appear constructive and is suspected of being [[WP:VANDALISM|vandalism]].|You [[WP:REMOVAL|deleted content]] without adequately explaining why in your edit summary.}}</nowiki></code> would turn out something like this:
::::[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello. One or more of your recent contributions to [[Example article]] appears to have multiple issues:
::::* You added content that does not appear constructive and is suspected of being [[WP:VANDALISM|vandalism]].
::::* You [[WP:REMOVAL|deleted content]] without adequately explaining why in your edit summary.
::::Of course the warnings can be as detailed as need be. My goal is to be able to concisely warn a user about an edit they made that violates multiple policies at once.
::::<span style="font-family:Berlin Sans FB;padding:3px;">[[User:GommehGaming101|<span style="color:red">'''Gommeh'''</span>]] ([[User talk:GommehGaming101|<b>talk</b>]]/[[Special:Contributions/GommehGaming101|<b>contribs</b>]])</span>  17:58, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::It seems to me that for that to work we'd need alternate versions of each of the existing warning messages that could then be used for bundling purposes (which also means editors might have concerns about the wording of each message). Not an impossible task, but possibly an unappetizing one, especially when in my experience I'm usually able to find a warning that I feel addresses my primary concerns with an editor's revision and then add supplemental text as needed if there are additional concerns I wish to note. Considering that it's arguable whether leaving templated warnings for people tends to have a net positive effect in any case, maybe it's best to continue to require editors to use a more personal touch if they want to leave a more complicated notice. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 19:25, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
::::::Personally I'd use a template for the most important message, which would probably be the most serious transgression, and use that template's second parameter to note any other issues. For example, {{tlxs|uw-vandalism1|Example article|You also [[WP:REMOVAL|deleted content]] without adequately explaining why in your edit summary. Thank you.}} --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:25, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::::The issue with that approach is that someone might forget to include information that might be necessary for the user to understand what happened and why it is not allowed, like forgetting a link to a policy or something. <span style="font-family:Berlin Sans FB;padding:3px;">[[User:GommehGaming101|<span style="color:red">'''Gommeh'''</span>]] ([[User talk:GommehGaming101|<b>talk</b>]]/[[Special:Contributions/GommehGaming101|<b>contribs</b>]])</span>  23:28, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Even in your example though, it could be argued that the consolidated messages no longer provide sufficient information for the user to understand what happened and why it's not allowed, especially if this is a warning for a newer editor...and most of the time when I use templates, they are indeed for newer editors, since I try to avoid [[WP:DTTR|templating the regulars]]. I also think that leaving a 'laundry list' of warnings for a new editor in one go may seem distinctly more unfriendly than leaving them a single warning, even if you add additional text noting additional concerns, because it looks more like an apathetic form letter.
::::::::I should note that there's no reason why you can't explore this on your own for your use and those of other editors who might wish to utilize it; I'm just concerned about a) the mechanics of it (because of the need to create new warning messages to be used with it), and b) whether it might be more off-putting than existing options. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 02:29, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::::This is exactly what I do. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 02:22, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

{{od|:::::::}} {{u|GommehGaming101}}, the procedure outlined by {{u|Redrose64}} and echoed by {{u|Doniago}} sounds like a perfect solution; I am going to start following in their footsteps, now. The ability to do this is already there and available via positional param 2, all that is needed now, is to bring it to the attention of prospective template users via the doc page. If you can get consensus for it (or just try a [[WP:BOLD|bold edit]]), this could be added directly to {{t|Templates notice/inner}} as a new doc page bullet for the common warning template doc page. Perhaps something like this:
: {{xt|If a user has violated multiple guidelines, use the template corresponding to the most serious violation, and mention the other issues using the "additional text" that you can supply in positional param 2; see <code><nowiki>{{slink||Usage}}</nowiki></code> above.}}
This will then appear on the doc page of every user warning template. 

It would also be possible to conditionally emit the bullet item only for certain templates and not others. This would require a change to {{t|Templates notice}} to add new parameter {{para|multipleadvice|yes}} and pass it through to the /inner template, which would emit the bullet or not, as indicated.  [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 21:57, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

== uw-editwar templates ==

{{u|CyberTheTiger}} recently added a set of multi-level templates for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Template_index/User_talk_namespace/Multi-level_templates&oldid=1288191824#Edit_warring edit warring].  This seems like a bad idea.  Edit warring is fundamentally different from the issues handled by multi-level templates, as called out in [[WP:UWUL#Single issue warnings]]: {{tq|There are also single issue warnings. Single issue warnings generally serve to advise editors of policy breaches that, if repeated, are likely to result in a block. An example of such an act would be edit warring.}}  Differences include:
* Edit warring already has a single-issue template, {{tl|uw-ew}} / {{tl|uw-ewsoft}}.
* Edit warring has a different standard for blockable offenses, [[WP:3RR]].
* Edit warring gets reported to a different noticeboard, [[WP:AN/EW]] instead of [[WP:ANI]].
Using multi-level warnings for edit warring would make initial communications easier, but would just lead to confusion further down the line. [[User:Danbloch|Dan Bloch]] ([[User talk:Danbloch|talk]]) 20:13, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
:Yes, there are more levels of warning than there are sanctions available.
:#User makes first revert - it happens many times a second, we pass over it. No message is required; if it were, we'd be forever sending out messages.
:#User makes second revert - also quite frequent, we should start a thread on the article talk page in the interests of [[WP:BRD]] and might also drop a note on the user's talk page directing them to the article's talk page. Templates such as {{tlx|fyi}} and {{tlxs|please see}} are available for this.
:#User makes third revert - we serve a {{tlxs|uw-3rr}} directly to the user talk page
:#User makes ''fourth'' revert - we block if able to do so, otherwise file a [[WP:ANEW]] report
:There isn't really any scope for graduated warnings. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 07:03, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
::There was already an edit war template in the single level. I will revert the users edits [[Special:Contributions/92.55.125.192|92.55.125.192]] ([[User talk:92.55.125.192|talk]]) 11:03, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
:::If there aren't any further comments, I'll remove these templates tomorrow. [[User:Danbloch|Dan Bloch]] ([[User talk:Danbloch|talk]]) 18:18, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
::::This is done. [[User:Danbloch|Dan Bloch]] ([[User talk:Danbloch|talk]]) 18:14, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:::::{{replyto|Danbloch}} Done in what way? [[Template:Uw-editwar1]], [[Template:Uw-editwar2]], [[Template:Uw-editwar3]] and [[Template:Uw-editwar4]] still exist, and I don't see them at [[WP:TFD]]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:19, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
::::::Okay, good point.  Done in that I removed them from this page so no one will find them any more, but I'll raise them at [[WP:TFD]]. [[User:Danbloch|Dan Bloch]] ([[User talk:Danbloch|talk]]) 22:41, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Submitted to TfD.  See [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 May 2#Multi-level editwar warning templates|discussion]]. [[User:Danbloch|Dan Bloch]] ([[User talk:Danbloch|talk]]) 04:53, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

== Edit request 29 April 2025 ==

{{Edit semi-protected|Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace|answered=yes}}

'''The [[Template:uw-error4|uw-error4]] has the phrase "you vandalize Wikipedia by deliberately introducing incorrect information", whereas the [[Template:uw-error4im|uw-error4im]] has the phrase "if you continue to deliberately introduce factual errors into articles" instead of the one seen in uw-error4. Can somebody change this to the one seen in uw-error4 for consistency? Thanks.'''

'''Diff:'''
{{TextDiff|1=if you continue to deliberately introduce factual errors into articles|2=if you vandalize Wikipedia by deliberately introduce factual errors again}} [[Special:Contributions/92.55.125.192|92.55.125.192]] ([[User talk:92.55.125.192|talk]]) 11:23, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
:{{not done}}:<!-- Template:ESp --> for a start, your suggested change is grammatically incorrect ({{tq|by deliberately introduce|q=yes}}).  [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 21:55, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
::Unless you also change "introduce" to "introducing", then it's grammatically correct [[User:CyberTheTiger|<span style="color: brown"> '''Cyber'''</span><span style="color: black"> '''the'''</span><span style="color: orange"> '''tiger'''</span>🐯]] ([[User talk:CyberTheTiger|'''talk''']]) 19:27, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 3 May 2025 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Uw-spam4im|answered=yes}}
Change "to Wikipedia again" to "into Wikipedia again". Spam links are usually inserted into a website and not "to" a website. [[User:RaschenTechner|RaschenTechner]] ([[User talk:RaschenTechner|talk]]) 18:39, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:{{complete2}}. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'er&nbsp;there</sup>]]&nbsp;<small>04:44, 4 May 2025 (UTC)</small>

== Template:Uw-editsummary ==

Updated sentence two of {{t|uw-editsummary}} ([[Special:Diff/1288654936|diff]]). The wording was very wishy-washy, as if we were begging without justification, but in reality, edit summaries are required by policy ([[WP:CONS#Through editing|here]]) and we should not be shy about saying so. Still, as only a level-1, it is worded very gently, with no mention of blocks, but the policy link was not included before, and really needs to be. This rectifies that. Thanks, [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 08:29, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

== Template:Uw-biog1, documentation ==

Documentation of templates [[Template:Uw-biog1]], [[Template:Uw-biog2]], [[Template:Uw-biog3]] (those I checked) include showing ''Multi-level user warning or notice templates'', with clickable ''show'' field, which clicked shows other related templates. 

After reviewing what I wanted, I would like to hide that again (most of it was not related to task at hand), but couldn't find a clickable ''hide'' area (button?) to do it. I could get it hidden again only by reloading the page. 

Could the template used to show those related templates be used in a way to show a ''hide'' clickable area (button?) (and for all templates where this is used? [[User:Marjan Tomki SI|Marjan Tomki SI]] ([[User talk:Marjan Tomki SI|talk]]) 20:07, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Marjan Tomki SI}} The "[hide]" link is there, but it might be off the right-hand side of your screen. After clicking "[show]", you should find that at the bottom of your browser window there is a scrollbar. Slide that to the right, so that the window contents move left. This will reveal the "[hide]" link. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

== Edit request 6 May 2025 ==

{{Edit semi-protected|answered=y}}

Change the link in uw-create1 warning from [[Wikipedia:List of policies]] to [[Wikipedia:List of guidelines]]

'''Diff:'''
{{TextDiff|1=may not conform to some of Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of policies|guidelines]] for new pages,|2=may not conform to some of Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:List of guidelines|guidelines]] for new pages,}} [[Special:Contributions/37.25.85.161|37.25.85.161]] ([[User talk:37.25.85.161|talk]]) 19:04, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
:[[File:X mark.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now''': please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests#Planning a request|before]]''' using the {{Tlx|Edit semi-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ESp --> --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:30, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 12 May 2025 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Uw-blank1|answered=y}}
Please change "vandalised" to "vandalized" to keep it in line with other templates, such as [[Template:Uw-vandalism4]] [[User:RaschenTechner|RaschenTechner]] ([[User talk:RaschenTechner|talk]]) 11:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
:[[File:X mark.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now''': please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests#Planning a request|before]]''' using the {{Tlx|Edit template-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ETp --> --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 18:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 13 May 2025 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Uw-disruptive2|answered=y}}

Change wording from "the loss of editing privilages" to "being blocked from editing" [[User:CyberTheTiger|<span style="color: brown"> '''Cyber'''</span><span style="color: black"> '''the'''</span><span style="color: orange"> '''tiger'''</span>🐯]] ([[User talk:CyberTheTiger|'''talk''']]) 19:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
:{{re|CyberTheTiger}} Was this change discussed somewhere? I see you also edited [[Template:Uw-attempt1]], but I cannot find any related discussion. [[User:Est. 2021|Est. 2021]] ([[User talk:Est. 2021|talk]]&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b>&#32;[[User:Est. 2021/contribs|contribs]]) 22:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
:[[File:X mark.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now''': please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests#Planning a request|before]]''' using the {{Tlx|Edit template-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ETp --> --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:38, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

== Edit request 14 May 2025 ==

{{Edit semi-protected|Template:Uw-unsourced2|answered=yes}}

'''Grammar fix in Uw-unsourced2:'''

'''Diff:'''
{{TextDiff|1=Please review the guidelines at [[Wikipedia:Citing sources]] and to see how to add references to an article|2=Please review the guidelines at [[Wikipedia:Citing sources]] to see how to add references to an article}} [[User:Fyrael|&#32;-- Fyrael]] ([[User talk:Fyrael|talk]]) 02:25, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:Pinging {{user|JBW}} as the editor who [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Uw-unsourced2&diff=prev&oldid=1281779225 changed the text] and created this error. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 17:19, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

* {{Done}}. Oops! Thank you, {{u|Fyrael}} & {{u|Doniago}}. [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 19:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 16 May 2025 ==

{{edit template-protected|Template:Uw-unsourced1|answered=yes}}
Add a sentence stating Wikipedia's policy for citing sources [[User:CyberTheTiger|<span style="color: brown"> '''Cyber'''</span><span style="color: black"> '''the'''</span><span style="color: orange"> '''tiger'''</span>🐯]] ([[User talk:CyberTheTiger|'''talk''']]) 17:13, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
:[[File:X mark.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now''': please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests#Planning a request|before]]''' using the {{Tlx|Edit template-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ETp --> [[Template:Uw-unsourced1]] has two links to guidelines about sources and a link to a how-to guide about sources. —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 11:33, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

== Uw-toppost-section? ==

Is there a warning template for someone posting a new comment at the top of a discussion section? If not, could {{tl|uw-toppost}} be modified to add a section switch?

I am referring to a situation such as this: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cuauht%C3%A9moc_Brooklyn_Bridge_collision&diff=prev&oldid=1290961769] where a new different editor posts to the top of the section above the initiating comment. 

-- [[Special:Contributions/65.92.246.77|65.92.246.77]] ([[User talk:65.92.246.77|talk]]) 18:15, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

== New block templates to go with certain "Uw-" multi-level warnings: ==

I am creating new user block templates for certain actions that there are multi-level warnings for. Examples include:
* {{Tl2|Uw-gamingblock}} - [[Wikipedia:Gaming the system|gaming the system]], goes with {{Tl2|Uw-gaming}} templates
* {{Tl2|Uw-colorblock}} - adding non-compliant colors, goes with {{Tl2|Uw-color}} templates
* {{Tl2|Uw-attemptblock}} - triggering the edit filter, goes with {{Tl2|Uw-attempt}} templates
[[User:Mario662629|Mario662629]] ([[User talk:Mario662629|talk]]) 18:41, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Mario662629}} You're not an administrator. Why would you need these? --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:16, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
::I'm not sure why, but I'm also worried about something bad happening to my account because of this. Anyways, this might be done just to have a block template for every multi-level user warning. [[User:Mario662629|Mario662629]] ([[User talk:Mario662629|talk]]) 22:39, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
:::{{replyto|Mario662629}} When an administrator blocks a user, they select an option from the following list: <syntaxhighlight lang=wikitext>[[WP:Vandalism|Vandalism]]
[[WP:Vandalism-only account|Vandalism-only account]]
[[WP:Copyright violations|Copyright infringement]]
Creating [[WP:Attack page|attack pages]]
Violations of the [[WP:Biographies of living persons|biographies of living persons]] policy
Persistent addition of [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|unsourced]] content
Creating [[WP:Patent nonsense|patent nonsense]] or other inappropriate pages
Using Wikipedia for [[WP:Spam|promotion]] or [[WP:NOTADVERTISING|advertising]] purposes
[[WP:Spam|Promotion]] / [[WP:NOTADVERTISING|advertising]]-only account
[[WP:Edit warring|Edit warring]]
Violation of the [[WP:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]]
[[WP:Disruptive editing|Disruptive editing]]
[[WP:No personal attacks|Personal attacks]] or violations of the [[WP:Harassment|harassment]] policy
Making [[WP:No legal threats|legal threats]]
[[WP:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Enforcement|Arbitration enforcement]]
[[WP:CTOP|Contentious topic]] restriction
[[WP:Blocking policy#Evasion of blocks|Block evasion]]
Abusing [[WP:Sockpuppetry|multiple accounts]]
Repeatedly triggering the [[WP:Edit filter|edit filter]]
[[Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry#Inappropriate uses of alternative accounts|Sockpuppetry]]
Long-term abuse
Clearly [[WP:NOTHERE|not here to build an encyclopedia]]
Revoking talk page access: inappropriate use of user talk page while blocked
{{anonblock}}
{{anonblock}} <!-- Likely a school based on behavioral evidence -->
{{school block}}
{{rangeblock}}
{{blocked proxy}}
{{uw-upeblock}} <!-- Undisclosed paid editing for advertising or promotion -->
{{uw-ublock}} <!-- Username violation, soft block -->
{{uw-uhblock}} <!-- Username violation, hard block -->
{{uw-causeblock}} <!-- Username represents a non-profit, soft block -->
{{uw-ublock-wellknown}} <!-- Username represents a well-known person, soft block -->
{{uw-ublock-double}} <!-- Username closely resembles another user, soft block -->
{{uw-uhblock-double}} <!-- Attempted impersonation of another user, hard block -->
{{uw-softerblock}} <!-- Promotional username, soft block -->
{{uw-spamublock}} <!-- Promotional username, promotional edits -->
{{Uw-spamblacklistblock}} <!-- editor only attempts to add blacklisted links, see [[Special:Log/spamblacklist]] -->
{{uw-vaublock}} <!-- Username violation, vandalism-only account -->
{{CheckUser block}}
{{checkuserblock-wide}}
{{checkuserblock-account}}
{{Tor}}
{{webhostblock}}
{{colocationwebhost}}
{{OversightBlock}}</syntaxhighlight> Your first two are not among these, and your third is covered by {{tlxs|Uw-disruptblock}}. The [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocking policy]] goes into further detail. There is no one-to-one match between user warnings and block reasons, and there is not intended to be. I don't see why you might worry about something bad happening to your account. Have you been served warnings about any of these three potential issues? --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 06:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
::::* {{Tl2|Uw-disruptblock}} goes with {{Tl2|Uw-disruptive1}}, {{Tl2|Uw-disruptive2}}, {{Tl2|Uw-disruptive3}}, and {{Tl2|Uw-generic4}}.
::::* I'm talking about the templates left on user talk pages, not the ones used in the block reasons.
::::* For the purpose of testing and organization, I have created this [[User:Mario662629/User_warning_test|test page]], which is being used for the purpose of organizing these templates.
::::[[User:Mario662629|Mario662629]] ([[User talk:Mario662629|talk]]) 15:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
:::::I know that you're talking about templates on user talk pages. What I am saying is that each message usually pairs with a block reason. For instance, if an admin blocks with a reason of [[WP:Vandalism|Vandalism]], they will serve a {{tlxs|uw-vblock}}. [[Wikipedia:Gaming the system|Gaming the system]] is not, of itself, a reason to block.
:::::What I want to know is ''why'' you want them to be created (and I see that you have begun creating them yourself) when [[Special:UserRights/Mario662629|you are not, at present, an administrator]]. If we were short of appropriate block messages, an existing ''experienced'' administrator would surely have created them, but only when absolutely necessary. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 20:33, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

== Template:Uw-coi ==

Imo this template's output text is verbose and difficult to understand. Even for me, who's familiar with Wikipedia's COI policies and is a native English speaker, it's hard to parse. I think it could be significantly reworded to be more digestible even for English as second language speakers. [[User:Grapesurgeon|grapesurgeon]] (seefooddiet) ([[User talk:Grapesurgeon|talk]]) 00:42, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:It doesn't really seem that way to me, but English is my primary language so perhaps I'm simply unable to see how it can be problematic. Are there changes you'd like to propose? [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 17:05, 27 May 2025 (UTC)