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= July 30 =

== How can I read extensive wikipedia help/info pages and policies/guides offline? ==

Not sure if this question is appropriate here, but I would love to be able to compile all the wikipedia related pages into a big readable file that I can load into my ebook reader for reference. Is there any such thing done before? Or, are there any projects that create wikipedia related pages and divide them into several books?  I've explored the "create a book" wizard on special page, but it do not generate a book, it collect pages and ask me for info, after clicking save book it says that it need to create a page with the <bookname. However, there's no book presented to me after the blank page is created. Any thoughts?
[[User:Kaveinthran|Kaveinthran]] ([[User talk:Kaveinthran|talk]]) 01:52, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
: {{u|Kaveinthran}} It used to be possible to create what you wanted (see [[Wikipedia:Books]]) but as that link explains the facility was removed. Individual articles can still be downloaded as .pdf files using the menu option on article pages. It is also possible to download material using the mediawiki API (see [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page this link]) but that is not for the fainthearted and would require considerable technical knowledge (and disk space if you wanted a substantial number of articles!). [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 13:50, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

== Archiving post at Closure Requests page ==

Should [[Wikipedia:Closure_requests#Wikipedia:Proposed_article_mergers#Merge_requests]] not have been archived by now?  Please {{tl|ping}} me when you respond. --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 08:11, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

== Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Clerks/archive 11#Geschichte ==

The post [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Clerks/archive 11#Geschichte|here]] from July 9, 2022 has not been addressed.  I was told not to post it at [[WP:CR]].  Is there another path that I may take?  Please {{tl|ping}} me when you reply. --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 08:26, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

:It's likely nothing to worry about. If you believe it's fallen off the radar, you can ping a few [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Clerks|Arbcom Clerks]] at their noticeboard (<nowiki>{{@ArbComClerks}}</nowiki> pings them all I believe.. ) [[User:Femke|Femke]] ([[User talk:Femke|talk]]) 18:00, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
:*''' Reply '''- {{yo|Femke}}, "Please {{tl|ping}} me when you reply". --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 00:45, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
:*:@[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]], did you know it's now possible to subscribe to sections so that you'll automatically be pinged to replies in that section? [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 17:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
::*''' Reply '''- {{yo|Valereee}}, no, I did not know.  How do I subscribe? --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 22:24, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
::*:@[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]], dammit. :D I think somewhere in preferences? Maybe Preferences>Beta features>Discussion tools? (Anyone feel free to correct me!) [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 22:36, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
::*::{{re|Jax 0677}} Yes, on the [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures]] page to be precise, {{u|Valereee}}. It can be configured in various ways (disclaimer: I've not personally tried it!). [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 10:37, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
::*:::I have it enabled, and I've found it very helpful. The biggest issue is that if you sub to a discussion that's getting lots of posts, you get a notification for each. They're collapsed together, and you can expand and see who/the first few sentences, so after getting used to it, I still prefer to keep it enabled. But the first few times you log on and find 25 notifications can be a little alarming. [[User:Valereee|Valereee]] ([[User talk:Valereee|talk]]) 17:13, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

== LIARS ==
{{hat|[[WP:DFTT|Do not reply to posts written to be inflammatory]] - [[WP:AC/DS#Awareness|Alert]] the poster and move on.  —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|a little blue Bori]]</small></sup> 19:48, 31 July 2022 (UTC)}}
You are liars and changing the definition of a "recession" based on all previous known definitions of the word. Shame on you! [[Special:Contributions/75.144.119.225|75.144.119.225]] ([[User talk:75.144.119.225|talk]]) 11:08, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
:Do not attack other editors or you may be blocked; see the sections above with recession in the title; read and follow the links provided; do not post here again but read the information posted / and discuss at the talk page. [[User:Eagleash|Eagleash]] ([[User talk:Eagleash|talk]]) 11:44, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

:{{u|75.144.119.225}}, in every calendar month, approximately 100,000 ''different'' individuals perform edits on Wikipedia (as far as can be measured). Which ones, or how many, of these are you calling liars, pray?
:''Wikipedia'' (or any one of its many, many editors) does not attempt to define the meaning of ''any'' word or concept. It only attempts to report and summarise what "[[WP:Reliable sources|Reliable sources]]" mean by words or terms. 
:If significant authorities on the World economic stage decide to change or extend the meaning of an economic term, ''Wikipedia'' should incorporate this information in the appropriate articles, without agreeing or disagreeing with it, because ''Wikipedia'' aims to present a [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|Neutral point of view]]: other significant conflicting opinions on the matter should also be included in a balanced fashion. All of these should be cited to sources – it is up to the reader to decide which sources they trust or prefer. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/90.201.73.20|90.201.73.20]] ([[User talk:90.201.73.20|talk]]) 12:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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== What kind of infobox should I used on some songwriters' articles that indicates only the year of their birth?  ==

What kind of infobox should I used on some music articles especially about songwriters that indicates only the year of their birth? [[User:Inarawan1979|Inarawan1979]] ([[User talk:Inarawan1979|talk]]) 11:24, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
: Hi {{u|Inarawan1979}}. If the only information added to the infobox is the person's name and their DOB, then perhaps you shouldn't use an infobox at all per [[:WP:DISINFOBOX]]. [[:WP:INFOBOX]]es aren't required to be used in articles. For sure, they can be handy in summarizing article content for long articles with lots of sections, but they often aren't really needed for short articles where all the information in the infobox is basically found in the first few paragraphs. Even if there's a photo of the subject of the article being used, an infobox isn't really necessary if all it contains in a photo, the subject's name and their DOB. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 11:37, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
:{{re|Inarawan1979}} If you are asking if the DOB in an infobox can be just the year and not the exact DOB, the answer is "yes". Just type in "1979" instead of "July 4, 1979". -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 14:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

== Farewell speech ==

Dear friends and teachers,students
This is the day of celebration. Let us make this farewell the best farewell ever.Some tears will be shed and some smiles will be shared as we bid farewell to our school lives. ❣️❣️  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/41.113.176.111|41.113.176.111]] ([[User talk:41.113.176.111#top|talk]]) 17:51, 30 July 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Uhh what? This doesn't look like a question about using or editing Wikipedia. [[User:weeklyd3|<span style="background-color: cyan; color: blue;">weeklyd3</span>]] (<span class="sysop-show">[[Special:block/weeklyd3|block]] &#124; </span>[[User talk:weeklyd3|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contribs/weeklyd3|contributions]]) 17:51, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

== Suggesting Improvements ==

How do I suggest improvements to authors of an article?  [[User:Chair0fPeter|Chair0fPeter]] ([[User talk:Chair0fPeter|talk]]) 18:17, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

:@[[User:Chair0fPeter|Chair0fPeter]], you can [[Wikipedia:Be bold|be bold]] and make the changes yourself. (Sidenote: There [[Wikipedia:Article feedback tool|used to be an article feedback tool]], but they took it away.) [[User:weeklyd3|<span style="background-color: cyan; color: blue;">weeklyd3</span>]] (<span class="sysop-show">[[Special:block/weeklyd3|block]] &#124; </span>[[User talk:weeklyd3|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contribs/weeklyd3|contributions]]) 18:18, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
::{{u|Chair0fPeter}}, another alternative is to post your suggestions on the article talk page. Please provide links to reliable sources that verify the changes you want to make. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 19:43, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

== Need help on Convert templates ==

I have recently did a major upgrade on [[Natural Bridges National Monument Solar Power System]] in hopes of turning it into a Good Article. I need help on Convert templates. Where it says " 576 solar panels have 10,645 square feet (989.0 m2) of solar cell area " I can not figure out how to take out the dot zero and make it read just 989 m2. Also can someone convert the following and then I can take it from there - 18 inches, 2 inch, 200 feet, 1500 gallons, and 100 miles. Thanks for help in this.--[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] ([[User talk:Doug Coldwell|talk]]) [[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] ([[User talk:Doug Coldwell|talk]]) 20:05, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
:@[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]]: It might have to do with the template trying to preserve [[significant figures]] (though I would've expected 10,645 to convert into 989.00 instead...). You can change this by using the {{para|sigfig}} parameter in {{tl|convert}} to force how many should be shown. [[Special:Diff/1101395683|I've done 10,645 square feet as an example]]. Is that what you're looking for? —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 20:26, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
::@[[User:Tenryuu]] Yup! Thant's it - Thanks. Can you help me on the other Coverts and then I can go from there. Thanks.--[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] ([[User talk:Doug Coldwell|talk]]) 20:34, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]]: Taking a look at the documentation at [[Help:Convert#Rounding]] it might be easier to make the fourth unnamed parameter in {{tl|convert}} <code><nowiki>0</nowiki></code> to cut off decimal places. I'll see how that looks.{{pb}}I converted a few more figures but none of them seem to create the precision issue you were having. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 20:40, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
::@[[User:Tenryuu]] Thanks for your help. --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] ([[User talk:Doug Coldwell|talk]]) 20:59, 30 July 2022 (UTC)