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= September 11 =

== How to search for article names only (exclude redirects)? ==

I'd like to do a search like "intitle:/term/" and not have any redirects returned, only actual page titles. Is there any way? Sorry if this is in [[Help:Searching]] but I wasn't seeing it. --[[User:Here2rewrite|Here2rewrite]] ([[User talk:Here2rewrite|talk]]) 02:34, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
:{{hidden ping|Here2rewrite}}That's sadly no longer possible. <small>(The option was [[phab:rMW7e8c48ac3d11cff93c48b9c380897019eda225bd|removed]], there is [[phab:T204089|a phab ticket]]&nbsp;trying to have them reactivate it.)</small> – '''[[User:Þjarkur|Thjarkur]]''' [[User talk:Þjarkur|(talk)]] 12:16, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
::Dang well thanks for the answer. Good to know I can stop looking for how to do it at least. --[[User:Here2rewrite|Here2rewrite]] ([[User talk:Here2rewrite|talk]]) 21:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

== Use of a picture on an English language article that appears on the same page for a diifferent language ==

I am editing an article, [[Hendrik Adamson]]. There is no picture for the article but a picture exists for the corresponding Esperanto article [https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendrik_Adamson Hendrik Adamson]. I tried adding the picture using the name from the Esperanto article, Hendrik_Adamson_2.jpg, but nothing shows up. How can I add the picture to the English article if it already exists in Wikipedia but from a different language? [[User:LiteratureCompanion|LiteratureCompanion]] ([[User talk:LiteratureCompanion|talk]]) 03:42, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
:The image is uploaded locally to the Esperanto wikipedia, rather than being on Commons, as it is a non free image, for which use is only permissable under fair use. To use it here, you would have to upload it to the English wikipedia, with an appropriate fair use rationale. See [[WP:NFC]] for how to do this, and the details of the policy. {{bcc|LiteratureCompanion}} <span style="color: darkgreen"> ~~ </span> [[User:OxonAlex|<span style="color: darkgreen">OxonAlex</span>]]  [[User talk:OxonAlex|<span style="color: darkgreen">- talk</span>]] 05:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

== only having a go ==

hi i want to tell you that i did not know about the sandbox sorry about the fuss  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pingoo2|Pingoo2]] ([[User talk:Pingoo2#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pingoo2|contribs]]) 06:57, 11 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*No problem {{u|Pingoo2}}. Now that you know it, just avoid making test edits to live articles (yes, those are live articles!). Feel free to come back if you have any questions about how to edit Wikipedia. [[User:Tigraan|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#008000;">Tigraan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tigraan|<span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me</span>]]</sup> 14:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

== Review waiting, please be patient. ==

Hey Wikipedia,

My content is in review and it already more than 8 weeks or more.
How much time it will take more to review.
I need to know, what should I do next?

Thanks.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Anand7730|Anand7730]] ([[User talk:Anand7730#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Anand7730|contribs]]) 10:12, 11 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{replyto|Anand7730}}  Unfortunately, there is no specific timeframe for a review.  Reviews are conducted by volunteers in no particular order.  It could be reviewed in the next five minutes, or two months from now, there is no way to know. There are thousands of drafts waiting for review and a limited number of volunteers who work on them.  It's just the way it is, you will need to continue to be patient. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:20, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
: You'll need to be patient, but while you're waiting for the review you can sort out some of the errors. For example:
*You need to remove [[WP:external links|external links]] from the article text (including from the [[WP:See also|See also]] section, which is for [[WP:wikilinks|wikilinks]] to related Wikipedia articles). 
*Section headings (see [[MOS:HEADINGS]]) should not include reference citations, and they should be written in sentence case, not title case.
*Wikipedia is not an acceptable reference, see [[WP:Circular]].
: --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 10:25, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
:: In addition to the issues David has mentioned, the [[Draft:Anand Inetrnational College Of Engineering|draft]] is written in a very promotional tone, reading more like a brochure than a [[WP:NEUTRAL|neutral]] article. It will not be accepted with wording such as "world-class infrastructure, state-of-the-art laboratories, and a lush green landscaped campus", "makes sure that the students get world-class practical learning" or "there is something for everyone". [[Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox_or_means_of_promotion|Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion]]. Also, there is a spelling mistake in the title, [[User:AndrewWTaylor|AndrewWTaylor]] ([[User talk:AndrewWTaylor|talk]])

== Change photo used as primary image ==

I am having an issue changing an image uploaded by another user which is being used across many wikipedia languages as the default image. On the page " https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Waldo,_Florida " the default (top right) image is the old Waldo City Hall building. When people do google searches, this is the image they see. I have already changed the default English language image, but this particular wikimedia upload seems to be causing every search to return this incorrect location image.

I have already uploaded the new location image at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Waldo_City_Center_(Historic_Waldo_High_School).jpg

How can I resolve this?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Aeotas|Aeotas]] ([[User talk:Aeotas#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aeotas|contribs]]) 12:45, 11 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

EDIT: Okay, the image was replaced on that page which is good, but when googling "waldo fl" the first image to pop up is still the old uploaded wikimedia commons photo. If you hover over the photo, the hyperlink is to wikido (they have removed the image at my request), but google still lists the image as hosted at "/media/wikipedia/comm..." 

I am very confused. Is this image still being hosted on wikimedia and if so but it isn't being used as the page default, why is it still the first image result? The problem is that citizens are physically arriving at the old building because of the image being default when they search for the city. I thought to correct this by updated the image. [[User:Aeotas|Aeotas]] ([[User talk:Aeotas|talk]]) 16:25, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
:Wikipedia has no control over Google results and it looks like Google still has Wikido linking to the outdated image. Changes on a website do not show up instantaneously in search results, you'll have to wait for the results to update, Google only unleashes its webcrawlers every so often. [[User:Shearonink|Shearonink]] ([[User talk:Shearonink|talk]]) 16:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
::Also at the present time if you look on the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Waldo_City_Center_(Historic_Waldo_High_School).jpg image's Commons page] it is showing that the image is in use in two different Wikipedia articles: English Wikipedia - [[Waldo, Florida]] & the French Wikipedia - [[:fr:Waldo (Floride)|Waldo (Floride)]]. [[User:Shearonink|Shearonink]] ([[User talk:Shearonink|talk]]) 16:41, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
:::{{u|Aeotas}}, please don't [[c:Commons:Overwriting existing files|overwrite]] other people's images as you did [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Waldo_Hist_Dist_City_Hall01.jpg&type=revision&diff=365427302&oldid=351983963&diffmode=source here]. Even if that place looks outdated. I've reverted to an older version. You already have an image like that under a different filename: [[:c:File:Waldo City Center (Historic Waldo High School).jpg]]. And again: Wikipedia has no control over Google results, and IIRC it takes a long time for Google webcrawlers to update stuff anyway. [[User:Theinstantmatrix|theinstantmatrix]] ([[User talk:Theinstantmatrix|talk]]) 13:37, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

== Can i create an article for my fictional counrty ==

Hi, I'm just wandering if i can create an article for a fictional country i run  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Funbuket9|Funbuket9]] ([[User talk:Funbuket9#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Funbuket9|contribs]]) 13:04, 11 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{replyto|Funbuket9}}  Unless your fictional country is extensively written about by independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that indicate how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of [[WP:N|notability]], no, an article about it would not be permitted.  You may want to find an [[WP:OUT|alternative outlet]] where what you want to do is permitted. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
::{{ping|Funbuket9}} You may also wish to read the Wikipedia guideline [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day|Wikipedia is not for things made up one day]]. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Arms & Hearts|Arms & Hearts]] ([[User talk:Arms & Hearts|talk]]) 11:10, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

== (No subject) ==

Could content licensed under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 be published on Wikipedia? [[Special:Contributions/14.0.224.168|14.0.224.168]] ([[User talk:14.0.224.168|talk]]) 14:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
*Only if it meets our [[WP:NFCC|criteria for non-free content]], which are rather stringent. For instance, text from another encyclopedia would almost never qualify under criteria #1, because a free equivalent could be created (by rewriting the article). Our licensing requires that text and most media be available under [[Wikipedia:Copyrights#Contributors'_rights_and_obligations|CC BY-SA]], and NC [[WP:COPYOPEN|is not compatible with that]]. [[User:Tigraan|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#008000;">Tigraan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tigraan|<span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me</span>]]</sup> 14:25, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
**{{ping|Tigraan}} Thanks for your prompt reply (I should have read WP:COPYOPEN before I asked)--[[Special:Contributions/14.0.224.168|14.0.224.168]] ([[User talk:14.0.224.168|talk]]) 14:37, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

== Uploading a new logo to an organizations page ==

Hello, I am trying to upload Spirit of America's new logo to the [[Spirit of America (charity)]] wikipedia page. I keep receiving errors that "We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia Commons."

The image I am uploading is Spirit of America's new logo design. I have tried uploading in .jpeg, .jpg and .png format with no luck. Please provide assistance as soon as possible. Thank you.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:CED2019|CED2019]] ([[User talk:CED2019#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CED2019|contribs]]) 15:29, 11 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*{{re|CED2019}} I took the liberty of wikilinking the page you mentioned.
:Short version: see [[WP:LOGO]]. Longer version follows.
:You should only upload something on Commons if it is compatible with CC-BY-SA, the license used at Commons. In the case a private organization's logo, in 99%+ of the cases, the logo is copyrighted (in a not-CC-BY-SA-compatible way) unless it fails to meet the [[:commons:Commons:Threshold of originality]].
:You can however upload non-free media locally, in en-wikipedia, if they meet the [[WP:NFCC|non-free content criteria]]. In the case of logos, it usually means a raster graphics in low resolution. [[User:Tigraan|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#008000;">Tigraan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tigraan|<span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me</span>]]</sup> 15:57, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
* {{re|CED2019}} You need to carefully review guidance at [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest]]. Most of what you added to the article was poorly sourced thinly veiled advertisement and I have removed it nearly in its entirety. [[User:GreenMeansGo|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color:#07CB4B">G</span><span style="color:#449351">M</span><span style="color:#35683d">G</span></span>]][[User talk:GreenMeansGo#top|<sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk</sup>]] 16:10, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I apologize for any edits that were made incorrectly. We are trying to ensure that the Wikipedia page for Spirit of America is factual and accurately represents the organization. I also added links to all of our Advisory Board members, and am not sure why those were deleted or considered improper. Could I please schedule a call with a representative to go over appropriate changes, so that the page is accurate?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:CED2019|CED2019]] ([[User talk:CED2019#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CED2019|contribs]]) 17:25, 11 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*{{re|CED2019}} No, we are not going to "schedule a call with a representative". Not only would it be unpractical (there are a dozen or so volunteers responding at the Teahouse, vs. [[Wikipedia:Statistics|many hundreds of new articles every day]], we cannot have all their authors on call), but it would run contrary to a principle of transparency in the Wikipedia community: outside exceptional cases, every argument about what edits to make should be made on public talk pages, not in private phone calls.
:From what you say, it seems likely that editing Wikipedia is part of your job. If so, see [[WP:PAID|our guideline about paid editing]], and make the '''mandatory''' disclosure (failing to do so is a violation of the terms of use). Furthermore, please be aware that accounts must be held by a single person, [[WP:ROLE|"role" accounts are forbidden]].
:Finally, I agree with GMG's reversions of your edits. I suggest you go over our guideline [[WP:NPOV]]. Wikipedia pages are encyclopedia articles, not promotion material, so they should be as boring as possible and convey only objective information; stuff like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spirit_of_America_(charity)&diff=prev&oldid=915163995&diffmode=source "The new pump drastically improved the quality of life of the village"] you would find in "our success stories" pages, not in encyclopedias. [[User:Tigraan|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#008000;">Tigraan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tigraan|<span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me</span>]]</sup> 10:05, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

:Long story short, if you work in PR then you don't want a Wikipedia article on your organisation or company because you have no control over it and we will include negative information if it appears in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. See [[Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing]]. [[User:Poveglia|Poveglia]] ([[User talk:Poveglia|talk]]) 12:27, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

== improper page name ==

I have a question regarding editing the page for "Righteous Branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" This is not the official name of the denomination, it is incorporated as, and the name they use is: Christ's Church. How can the page, and all pages that reference the page be updated to reflect the correct name? This will make it much easier to identify the denomination correctly as the references to the denomination in books, articles, websites, their logo, etc, all identify the sect by their proper name.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:BShaffer|BShaffer]] ([[User talk:BShaffer#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BShaffer|contribs]]) 16:53, 11 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: {{ReplyTo|BShaffer}} Welcome to Wikipedia.  Articles are named based on the commonly used name, not an official name.  See [[WP:COMMONNAME]].  If you disagree with how an article is named, you can discuss it on that article's talk page.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 16:59, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

== e-mails in references ==

Hello,

In this article for instance; [[Club Moderne]], is it acceptable to add e-mails in the reference's author value?

[[User:Harley.M.X|Harley.M.X]] ([[User talk:Harley.M.X|talk]]) 16:58, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
:No, [[User:Harley.M.X|Harley.M.X]], that would generate an error message. In general, email addresses are highly inappropriate to add to Wikipedia.--[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 18:46, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

== Article grading or ranking ==

How do I access the grade or rank of an article?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rmacek|Rmacek]] ([[User talk:Rmacek#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rmacek|contribs]]) 22:14, 11 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{ping|Rmacek}} The status of an article will typically be shown at the article talk page. Click on the 'talk' tab at the top left of the article. {{please}} Thank you. [[User:Eagleash|Eagleash]] ([[User talk:Eagleash|talk]]) 05:17, 12 September 2019 (UTC)