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= October 22 =

== Problems with links to sources on Google Books ==

Just a pretty minor issue. Sometimes when I'm trying to provide a link to a source from Google Books, part of the url appears in the text of the article, e.g [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=u2EkAQAAIAAJ&dq=men+of+medina&focus=searchwithinvolume&q="whose+mother+was+Sukayna+bint+al-Husayn+ibn+Ali"] This only seems to happen when the source in question is available in "snippet view" on Google. Any thoughts on how I can avoid this? Thank you.<br />[[User:Alivardi|Alivardi]] ([[User talk:Alivardi|talk]]) 00:59, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Alivardi}}, there's [http://reftag.appspot.com/ a handy website] that produces citations for Google Books (including less unwieldy URLs). [[User:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#8B008B;">'''Schazjmd'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Schazjmd|<span style="color:#8B008B;">''(talk)''</span>]] 01:01, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
::Damn that was fast. Thank you!<br />[[User:Alivardi|Alivardi]] ([[User talk:Alivardi|talk]]) 01:05, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
{{ec}}
:It's the quote marks (") in the url.  
::with the quote marks:
:::<code><nowiki>[https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=u2EkAQAAIAAJ&dq=men+of+medina&focus=searchwithinvolume&q="whose+mother+was+Sukayna+bint+al-Husayn+ibn+Ali"]</nowiki></code> → [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=u2EkAQAAIAAJ&dq=men+of+medina&focus=searchwithinvolume&q="whose+mother+was+Sukayna+bint+al-Husayn+ibn+Ali"]
::without the quote marks:
:::<code><nowiki>[https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=u2EkAQAAIAAJ&dq=men+of+medina&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=whose+mother+was+Sukayna+bint+al-Husayn+ibn+Ali]</nowiki></code> → [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=u2EkAQAAIAAJ&dq=men+of+medina&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=whose+mother+was+Sukayna+bint+al-Husayn+ibn+Ali]
::with the quote marks [[percent encoding|percent encoded]]:
:::<code><nowiki>[https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=u2EkAQAAIAAJ&dq=men+of+medina&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22whose+mother+was+Sukayna+bint+al-Husayn+ibn+Ali%22]</nowiki></code> → [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=u2EkAQAAIAAJ&dq=men+of+medina&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22whose+mother+was+Sukayna+bint+al-Husayn+ibn+Ali%22]
:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 01:06, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
::{{reply to|Trappist the monk}} I'm not very familiar with percent encoding. Would typing "%22" in place of quotation marks work in all scenarios? That's the impression I'm getting from the article page but I just wanted to be certain.<br />[[User:Alivardi|Alivardi]] ([[User talk:Alivardi|talk]]) 01:16, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
:::In urls with quote marks that haven't worked right for me, replacing them with <code>%22</code> has worked for me.  Re: your: {{tq|in all scenarios?}}  That's a lot of scenarios so I cannot say for sure that this will always work.
:::—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 01:34, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
::::That's probably the best response I can expect from a non-omniscient being, so I'll take what I can get. Thank you!<br>[[User:Alivardi|Alivardi]] ([[User talk:Alivardi|talk]]) 01:46, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

== Croatian language ==

Croatian language is just Croatian, not "Serbo-Croatian" which is just Serbian language (both in latin and cyrilic). Whoever wrote this lie should learn the facts because there was NEVER officially Serbo-Croatian language, except during Communist regime lead by Josip Broz Tito. Also, there was never "Croato-Serbian" which cannot be found at Wikipedia as topic. So, if you want to make Wikipedia better, remove incorrections about Croatian language (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_language) and completely remove so called "Serbo-Croatian" which was used only AS TERM (in Serbia) during Communist Yugoslavia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbo-Croatian)  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/141.138.42.104|141.138.42.104]] ([[User talk:141.138.42.104#top|talk]]) 01:30, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The terminology that is used in the articles is that of the study of [[linguistics]]. Wikipedia reports what [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about these language families. Academic linguistics sources classify Serbo-Croatian as a sort of super-language to which Croatian belongs. Which of these are "official" doesn't really matter, because we don't particularly care what governments report or classify, we care what academics say. Unless you can provide reliable sources that back up your claims, the article will stay as is. [[User:CaptainEek|<span style="color:#6a1f7f">'''Captain Eek'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:CaptainEek|<span style="font-size:82%"><span style="color:#a479e5">''Edits Ho Cap'n!''</span></span>]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/CaptainEek|⚓]] 05:58, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

== Jarred Rome ==

Hello,  I am the mother of [[Jarred Rome]].  It broke my heart to see the picture you placed of him on his page.  There are a lot of amazing pictures of him throwing.  Please change the picture of him.  Please for me.

Thank you Jarred’s mother  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:601:9900:9E20:8474:D494:B1EF:47D9|2601:601:9900:9E20:8474:D494:B1EF:47D9]] ([[User talk:2601:601:9900:9E20:8474:D494:B1EF:47D9#top|talk]]) 05:27, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The picture was added as it was the only one we had. All photos added to Wikipedia must meet our copyright standards, per [[WP:IUP|the image use policy]]. If you would like a better photo added, you can add one yourself, or work with an experienced editor to include a photo of yours. Only photos that ''you'' personally took can generally be uploaded, unless the photographer explicitly releases their copyright to the photo. If you have a good photo that you took, please let us know and we can help it get included. If you do not have a good photo, but know a photographer who does, reach out to them and ask if they would be willing to donate a photo and release it by a license called [[CC-BY-SA]] or other appropriate free use license. (Note to other editors: I took a look on Flickr but found nothing free. If you can find a free image elsewhere, please do!) [[User:CaptainEek|<span style="color:#6a1f7f">'''Captain Eek'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:CaptainEek|<span style="font-size:82%"><span style="color:#a479e5">''Edits Ho Cap'n!''</span></span>]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/CaptainEek|⚓]] 05:45, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

== Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input ==


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:{{u|Sia1212}}, I've fixed it for you. You accidentally placed an empty ref tag at the top of the page. <span style="color: darkgreen"> ~~ </span> [[User:OxonAlex|<span style="color: darkgreen"><small>Oxon</small>Alex</span>]]  [[User talk:OxonAlex|<span style="color: darkgreen">- talk</span>]] 07:59, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

== Omission/Suggested Addition to "C-5 Galaxy" ==

Sirs:  

The C-5 Galaxy page omits a serious incident in the area of the page that identifies such occurances.  I was the Pilot-in-Command and the Instructor Pilot of a C-5 that caught fire in flight during a training mission at Travis AFB in December 1988.  All crewmembers survived, but the aircraft suffered extensive damage, having take almost an hour to extinguish the flames. My crew did an outstanding job identifying the fire (some 120 feet away from the cockpit in this giant aircraft, and in a remote compartment), executed emergency procedures perfectly, and then conducted an evacuation.  The only injury was smoke inhalation of one crewmember.  The aircraft eventually flew again (Tail #70-0450) but is now "retired" at Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ.

There are several articles that document the event, so it is curious that it is not listed on your page.  Here is just one:
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1988/12/31/Fire-broke-out-on-a-huge-Air-Force-C-5A/9863599547600/

Sincerely,

Col Joseph V. Fagan, Jr, USAF, Ret  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.179.162.6|71.179.162.6]] ([[User talk:71.179.162.6#top|talk]]) 09:33, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Thank you for pointing out that omission and ''thank you'' for including a source.  I have gone ahead and added it to the article, although I'm wondering if the article even needs that list of incidents involving the aircraft.  At any rate, it's there now. ~ ''[[User:ONUnicorn|<span style="color:#0cc">ONUnicorn</span>]]''<sup>([[User talk:ONUnicorn|Talk]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn|Contribs]])</sup><small>[[WP:P&amp;S|problem solving]]</small> 13:05, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

== Atatürk Üniversitesinin Kurumsal Kimlik Reformu ==

Merhaba Atatürk Üniversitesinin kurumsal kimlik standartlarında bir değişim söz konusu, daha güncel  bilgiler için aşağıdaki linkten yararlanabilirsiniz.
https://atauni.edu.tr/kurumsal-kimlik-1/kurumsal  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.183.216.20|95.183.216.20]] ([[User talk:95.183.216.20#top|talk]]) 13:40, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: This is the English language Wikipedia.  Perhaps you are looking for the [[:tr:|Turkish Wikipedia]]? --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 13:48, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
:Additionally, we don't really follow corporate identity standards - our policy is to use commonly used names ([[WP:UCRN]]). <span style="color: darkgreen"> ~~ </span> [[User:OxonAlex|<span style="color: darkgreen"><small>Oxon</small>Alex</span>]]  [[User talk:OxonAlex|<span style="color: darkgreen">- talk</span>]] 14:12, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

== About my editing history ==

Hii folks,
to whomsoever, it may concern.

I edited a page in the past but got no notification of it being accepted or rejected. I tried viewing the edit history but to my dismay, I couldn't find any editing from my account. How would I come to know what happened with my edits or if they were accepted or not?

Here's the link to the page I contributed to. I corrected basic spelling mistakes and helped with sentence framing.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pictureoverlord|Pictureoverlord]] ([[User talk:Pictureoverlord#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pictureoverlord|contribs]]) 14:12, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{u|Pictureoverlord}}, your edit history is at [[Special:Contributions/Pictureoverlord]] - are you looking for something not on there? The only circumstance where that should occur is if you have editing a page that has subsequently been deleted (only admins can see deleted contributions).
:
:For the vast majority of edits (but not making new pages), there is no approval or rejection. Other editors could undo your edits, but there is no process of accepting edits. (with the exception of some pages at a higher risk of vandalism) <span style="color: darkgreen"> ~~ </span> [[User:OxonAlex|<span style="color: darkgreen"><small>Oxon</small>Alex</span>]]  [[User talk:OxonAlex|<span style="color: darkgreen">- talk</span>]] 14:27, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
::{{admin note}} I don't see any deleted contributions. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 17:45, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
{{U|Pictureoverloard}} Are [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peaky_Blinders_(TV_series)&diff=prev&oldid=888616774&diffmode=source these] the changes you're referring to?  As OxonAlex said above, there is no approval or rejection for most edits.  It looks like there was no immediate reverting of your edits, so by that measure one could say they were approved.  On the other hand, there have been many edits to the article since yours, and it's difficult to say if any portion of the text that you changed is still exactly as you left it.  ~ ''[[User:ONUnicorn|<span style="color:#0cc">ONUnicorn</span>]]''<sup>([[User talk:ONUnicorn|Talk]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn|Contribs]])</sup><small>[[WP:P&amp;S|problem solving]]</small> 14:32, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
:{{ec}}{{ping| Pictureoverlord}} Hello, your only edit from the account used to post here was to the Peaky Bliders page, seen [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peaky_Blinders_(TV_series)&diff=prev&oldid=888616774 here]. This is likely a heavily edited page and will quickly change. Having said that, not all of your eidts were good ones. Contents of references shoud contain titles as used in the source, even if they are incorrect, and please also see [[:WP:ENGVAR]] for UK and U.S. spelling variations. From that link, if you click 'next edit', you will see that some changes were altered in the very next edit. {{please}} Thank you. [[User:Eagleash|Eagleash]] ([[User talk:Eagleash|talk]]) 14:35, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

== New full automatic backup of Wikipedia into archive.is ==

Fortunately, there is a relatively high number of Wikipedia's articles, which are copied into [[archive.is]]. This is expecially useful in countries where Internet and Wikipedia itself are censored, allowing users to bypass the Internet firewall and blacklisted websites with some kind of [[HTTP tunnel]]. 

The last backup of wikipedia is updated to [http://archive.is/FW9Jz/ March 2015] and it seems to be a full automatic copy. After four years, it has to be hopefully repeated and updated to the current online version of Wikipedia. Maybe, in multiple languages, not uniquely in the English one. Hope it helps. Kind regards.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/78.14.138.68|78.14.138.68]] ([[User talk:78.14.138.68#top|talk]]) 16:51, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Veena Malik image ==

Would anybody be willing to deal with [[Talk:Veena_Malik#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_21_October_2019|this edit request]] in a responsible way? I would prefer to stay out of the discussion. Thanks! [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 17:43, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
:I went ahead and switched the image.  The previous one was not very good, and was also a publicity photo. ~ ''[[User:ONUnicorn|<span style="color:#0cc">ONUnicorn</span>]]''<sup>([[User talk:ONUnicorn|Talk]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn|Contribs]])</sup><small>[[WP:P&amp;S|problem solving]]</small> 18:45, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

== Draft declined ==

I made a draft and submitted for getting published but it was declined. As i am new here, i need some help from the experts to let me know my mistakes and make me able to publish the draft as well.
The name of the draft is "Arijit Das". Please help me out.
Regards  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Sudhabindudas2012|Sudhabindudas2012]] ([[User talk:Sudhabindudas2012#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sudhabindudas2012|contribs]]) 18:18, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: In the feedback messages on the draft and on your user talk page the words in blue are [[WP:wikilinks|wikilinks]] to more detailed advice.  I notice also that the draft has not been edited for more than 6 months and is therefore eligible for speedy deletion under criterion [[WP:G13|G13]], so if you wish to proceed with the draft it would be wise for you to make at least some simple amendments to address some of the problems identified. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 18:27, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Sudhabindudas2012}} I have done some quick 'cleaning up' of the draft, (date formats, duplicated links, punc. before refs etc.) which will postpone the G13 process mentioned by David. Please ensure that you develop the article further or if you find you cannot, you can request its deletion by placing <code><nowiki>{{Db-g7}}</nowiki></code> at the top opf the page. {{please}} Thank you. [[User:Eagleash|Eagleash]] ([[User talk:Eagleash|talk]]) 18:48, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
:Courtesy link [[Draft:Arijit Das]] [[User:Timtempleton|<b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b>]] [[User talk:Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Timtempleton|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 19:19, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

== My article is stuck on Draft ==

I published an article about a film and stage director who asked me to make his Wikipedia page, but it got stuck in draft. I would like to know why and have it published as soon as possible, please. Can anyone help me? He's asking me about it.

I would also like to know how to change the article's name, since he is most known by his first and last name (Alberto Espino), but not his whole name.
This is the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alberto_Luis_Espino_de_la_Pe%C3%B1a  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Circuloalcuadrado|Circuloalcuadrado]] ([[User talk:Circuloalcuadrado#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Circuloalcuadrado|contribs]]) 21:17, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: {{ReplyTo|Circuloalcuadrado}} You can place <nowiki>{{subst:submit}}</nowiki> on the draft to submit it for review.  You also need to disclose if you are being paid.  See [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:PAID]].  There is a long backlog for draft reviews, so please be patient.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 21:26, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

== Wiki page  ==

I want to create wiki page for https://statusphobia.com/ but it doesn't allow me.. Kindly guide 
Thanks  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Uk 55555|Uk 55555]] ([[User talk:Uk 55555#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Uk 55555|contribs]]) 21:50, 22 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{u|Uk 55555}}  Wikipedia has '''articles''', not mere "pages".  Your edit history does not have any deleted contributions, so I think what is happening is that you are finding out that new accounts cannot directly create articles; your account must be at least four days old and have 10 or more edits. You will need to use [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]] to submit a draft for review before it it placed in the encyclopedia; however, many new users don't realize how challenging it is to successfully write a new article.  I would suggest that you read [[WP:YFA|Your First Article]] and use the [[WP:ADVENTURE|new user tutorial]] to get an idea of how Wikipedia operates.  It's also good to get some experience under your belt editing existing articles, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates.
:In this case, this website will need to have been significantly written about in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that show how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of [[WP:NWEB|a notable website]].  Not every website meets the criteria to merit an article on Wikipedia. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:56, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

== I'm getting mixed messages  ==

So off-wiki, I gotten a message about: What do you try to do by approaching a user that doesn't respond much to messages. It is related to [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2019 October 1#existing question|here]], with the page creator. While at the same time there is a WP:AN/I issue with them. Then I'm not sure where to respond my inquiry at? One issue is with a user that edits but doesn't respond well. Then the second is, if the user included info, it was added too soon and an IP thinks it's WP:OR. [[User:Unblue box|Unblue box]] ([[User talk:Unblue box|talk]]) 22:01, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Unblue box}}, I'm not quite sure I understand your question. What user is this regarding? What page is this regarding? What is the ANI issue? If you can provide [[WP:DIFF]]s of the issue, folks can help out much better. [[User:CaptainEek|<span style="color:#6a1f7f">'''Captain Eek'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:CaptainEek|<span style="font-size:82%"><span style="color:#a479e5">''Edits Ho Cap'n!''</span></span>]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/CaptainEek|⚓]] 23:22, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
:: It was regarding at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#An unresponsive user?|this link]]. It took me a while to read some of the talk pages to connect the dots. [[User:Unblue box|Unblue box]] ([[User talk:Unblue box|talk]]) 23:26, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
::I got a further message from the IP and the user still hasn't replied back, but a small message was added earlier ago. From [[Special:Diff/922989768|this]]. [[User:Unblue box|Unblue box]] ([[User talk:Unblue box|talk]]) 21:44, 25 October 2019 (UTC)