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= February 26 =

== Link to version of page from specific date (without knowing oldid) ==

:'' also posted [[mw:Topic:Uuweeywvxvkwvl7g|here]]
Hello all, Is there any tool that will link to an old version of a page when just given a page and date (no oldid)? Alternatively, is there any tool that can calculate an oldid when given a page and a date? [[User:Evolution and evolvability|T.Shafee(Evo<small>&#38;</small>Evo)]]<sup>[[User talk:Evolution and evolvability|talk]]</sup> 00:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
:@[[User:Evolution and evolvability|T.Shafee(Evo<small>&#38;</small>Evo)]]: In wikitext, the best you can do is link to a page history only showing the latest version at the time. You can include UTC time in YYYYMMDDhhmm: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&action=history&limit=1&offset=201801012359. Using url encoding for page names with special characters: [{{fullurl:Wikipedia:Sandbox|action=history&limit=1&offset=201801012359}}]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 10:58, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
::{{U|Evolution and evolvability}} Note this is only what is actually from that page. So if for example a template is included of other articles on the topic, that template will show as it is *now*, not the way that it was on the date. The only way around that is if the wikipedia is actually on archive.org or archive.is at that date.[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 16:54, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== TMS list ==

Hi !

How can i get on the list of TMS practicioners?

I am an CanStat Certified Alexander Teacher in BC, Canada. We have a lot to offer for people dealing with chronic pain. We work with pain contractile response. Our biggest contribuation we can help people with fear of pain to move and excercise again with less self contraction and tension.

Thank you !
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: This is the help desk for the entire English Wikipedia. Are you referring to a list in one of our 5.8 million articles? if so which one? -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 01:53, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

:('''e/c''') I've just looked and don't see any article listing people in relation to practicing [[transcranial magnetic stimulation]], which is what I think you're talking about. Can you clarify what article this is about? Meanwhile, generally speaking, only people who already have articles dedicated to them because they are [[WP:N|notable]] are properly included in lists embedded in other articles. Are you aware you're at [[Wikipedia]], the free [[encyclopedia]]?--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 01:55, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== Question about page protection ==

Out of curiosity, is there a reason user’s aren’t able to protect their own pages? [[User:SportsFan007|<span style="background:#000000;font:Helvetica;padding:0.4em;font-size: 80%;border-radius: 2em;margin: 0.25em;k; color:#00FF00">'''SportsFan007'''</span>]] ([[User talk:SportsFan007|talk]]) 05:23, 26 February 2019 (UTC)SportsFan007
: Because otherwise someone could move an article into their userspace and then protect it, creating a mess that needs an admin to revert? [[User:Pppery|&#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery]] ([[User talk:Pppery|talk]])  05:25, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
:: Ah ok, that makes sense, thank you!!! [[User:SportsFan007|<span style="background:#000000;font:Helvetica;padding:0.4em;font-size: 80%;border-radius: 2em;margin: 0.25em;k; color:#00FF00">'''SportsFan007'''</span>]] ([[User talk:SportsFan007|talk]]) 05:26, 26 February 2019 (UTC)SportsFan007

:Also, {{U|SportsFan007}}, because there is no such thing as "their own pages". Nobody in the world owns a Wikipedia page, not even Jimmy Wales. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 08:47, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
:: {{re|ColinFine}} I meant user pages and user talk pages. [[User:SportsFan007|<span style="background:#000000;font:Helvetica;padding:0.4em;font-size: 80%;border-radius: 2em;margin: 0.25em;k; color:#00FF00">'''SportsFan007'''</span>]] ([[User talk:SportsFan007|talk]]) 10:10, 26 February 2019 (UTC)SportsFan007
:::If you want userspace pages protected, ask at [[WP:RFPP]], and they usually get done. [[User:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b>]][[User talk:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b>]] ([[User talk:Joseph2302|talk)]] 10:46, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== How I can Publish the Article on Wikipedia? ==

Hello 

I have created the userpage on wikipedia and want to publish the article on wikipedia also. Please guide me or send me the steps that how I can publish the article with name "Jaswant Singh Mann".

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:See [[WP:Your First Article]]. You can also ask questions at [[WP:Teahouse]]. [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] ([[User talk:Rmhermen|talk]]) 07:00, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== Selectively suppressing the "sort" function in sortable Wikitables ==

Hello.  I have two questions about the ability to selectively suppress the "sort" function in sortable Wikitables.  (1)  Can one (or, perhaps, more) specific '''''columns''''' be "suppressed" {{ndash}} or "turned off" {{ndash}} from the sorting ability?  (2)  Same question for certain specific '''''rows'''''.  If so, what is the exact "computer code" to do so?  Thanks.   [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 12:58, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
:{{Re|Joseph A. Spadaro}} (1) is explained at [[Help:Sorting#Making a column unsortable]], (2) at [[Help:Sorting#Excluding rows from sorting]]. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 13:23, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

:: Perfect!  Thanks!  I will check out those links.  Thank you.  [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 14:13, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== created new page on Leslie E. Anderson ==

Dear Wikipedia,  On February 8, 2019, I created a new page for Leslie E. Anderson.  That page has never gone live and is not available on Wikipedia.  I am writing to ask if you are still reviewing the page or if you have decided not to create it.  Thank you.[[User:Landerso|Landerso]] ([[User talk:Landerso|talk]]) 16:26, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Landerso}}  Hello.  If you are Leslie E. Anderson, you should read the [[WP:AUTO|policy on autobiographies]].  If you are not, you will need to change your username(instructions can be provided).  If you are referring to [[User:174.16.224.61/sandbox]], you have not submitted the page for review.  Even if you did, however, it would not be accepted, as there are no sources provided to support its content, and it reads as a resume or other list of accomplishments.  Wikipedia is not for merely telling the world about someone(or yourself). Please read [[WP:YFA|Your First Article]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:31, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== Seeing the sortkeys in a category? ==

Is there any tool or setting that would allow for seeing what the sortkey is for each entry when viewing a category?[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 16:39, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
:My reason for asking is that I'm going through and trying to fix all of the entries in [[:Category:Pages_using_infobox_university_with_unknown_parameters]] and it would be easier if I could see that there was a large group that (for example) all had "Facebook =" as a unknown parameter. (In fact if there were enough of a specific word, I could use AWB to augment my work.[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 16:42, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
::{{Re|Naraht}} Playing with [[:mw:API:Categorymembers|the API documentation]], does [//en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=categorymembers&cmtitle=Category:Pages_using_infobox_university_with_unknown_parameters&cmprop=sortkeyprefix|title&cmlimit=max this API query] help? You'd have to run it from a bot account to see the full results, or someone more familiar with the API could work out how to use the "cmcontinue" parameter to get the results in chunks. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 17:06, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
:::I don't know a tool which works when you view a category page. The API is designed for programs and I don't know a more human-friendly method. Here are the current API queries to get all pages with cmcontinue without a bot or admin account: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=categorymembers&cmtitle=Category:Pages_using_infobox_university_with_unknown_parameters&cmprop=sortkeyprefix%7Ctitle&cmlimit=max], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=categorymembers&cmtitle=Category:Pages_using_infobox_university_with_unknown_parameters&cmprop=sortkeyprefix%7Ctitle&cmlimit=max&continue=-||&cmcontinue=page|41312f3951414d2b4537453f0443454b4f37314b43044d4f294b042d453f3f3135314d03062b4537453f0443454b4f37314b43044d4f294b042d453f3f3135314d01252301bfdcc1dcbedcc2dcbedcc1dcbedcc2dc0b|44154197], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=categorymembers&cmtitle=Category:Pages_using_infobox_university_with_unknown_parameters&cmprop=sortkeyprefix%7Ctitle&cmlimit=max&continue=-||&cmcontinue=page|4b312d4b51394f4131434f2b454d4f4543042b29474f394d4f042d453f3f31353103062b454d4f4543042b29474f394d4f042d453f3f31353101251b01bbdcc0dcbfdcbfdcc0dcbfdc0a|2169994]. The cmcontinue values will change when the category members change. My admin account can show up to 5000 at a time instead of 500 so you can also ask me for a long list. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 17:53, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
::::{{U|John of Reading}}, {{U|PrimeHunter}} This is somewhat useful, but given this, I'm not sure if what I want is available. Because Wikipedia uses the name of the article as a tiebreaker, it automatically appends it to the sortkey. For example (one in both of your lists) for Barnard College, I'd like to get the text "acceptance rate", not "acceptance rateBarnard College". Any ideas?[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 19:02, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
:::::That does not sound like a big hindrance for your purpose. It is {{tl|Infobox university}} which includes the page name in the sortkey with this: <code><nowiki>[[Category:Pages using infobox university with unknown parameters|_VALUE_{{PAGENAME}}]]</nowiki></code>. I have saved the sortkeys including pagename in [[User:PrimeHunter/sandbox]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 20:30, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
::::::{{U|PrimeHunter}} I want to find out how many pages have the improper VALUE of phone, and what I see looks like 
<pre>
phoneICBT Campus
phoneKing's International University, Tonga
phoneOkinawa Christian School International
phoneRajasthan University of Health Sciences
phoneSarsuna College
phoneSt. Louis College of Pharmacy
</pre>
(and if it was <nowiki>_VALUE_{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki>, that would be better, but what we have is <nowiki>VALUE{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki> with no underscores. :([[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 18:04, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
:Those are 99.99% certain to all be phone followed by pagename. And even if one of them isn't, I don't see how it hinders your purpose significantly. <nowiki>_VALUE_</nowiki> (including the underscores) represents the parameter name in [[Module:Check for unknown parameters]]. The sorting in [[:Category:Pages using infobox university with unknown parameters]] is deliberately by first character of the parameter name to get different headings in the category. It's not wanted to insert a common character at the start but you could request it in the middle and end at [[Template talk:Infobox university]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 19:56, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
::{{U|PrimeHunter}} It isn't that I want the sortkey to *actually* be <nowiki>_VALUE_{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki>, I just want to be able to pull out VALUE for comparison rather than it all smushed together. But it sounds like VALUE isn't kept separately and that some sort of text manipulation would be required to actually get VALUE.[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 07:21, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
:::If you look through [[User:PrimeHunter/sandbox]] manually then cases with many identical VALUE are easy to guess. If you want to do it with a tool then you would need a method to separate VALUE and pagename. The API page has a title field which could be removed from the end of sortkeyprefix with a program but it would be easier if sortkeyprefix marked the start of the pagename with a special character. As mentioned, this could be requested at [[Template talk:Infobox university]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 11:11, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
::::I agree that they would be easy to guess. But I don't feel that altering the template to do this single shot large scale cleanup. (Because after this, I'd like to do another unknown parameter category)  Oh well. I'm having fun with the cleanup anyway...[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 14:27, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

==How could I copy edit my Article==
I created an Article a few days ago. My Article name is [[The Hell of Good Intentions]]. I recived a noification which say my Article need to copy edite or review in it's english grammeral. How can I do this copy edite or is there someweher that do this edite?[[User:Forest90|Forest90]] ([[User talk:Forest90|talk]]) 17:23, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
:[[Wikipedia:Copyediting|Copyediting]] involves eliminating spelling, grammar, and punctuation mistakes, and improving the text in other ways, for example in making the style more self-consistent and also consistent with the [[House style|house style]] of the publication (in this case Wikipedia), improving the structure of the article, cross-checking the facts against the references used and against further references if available, etc. [Disclosure: I used to be a professional non-fiction copyeditor for a UK publisher.]
:It is quite difficult for the original writer to do this, because if they can see any mistakes or deficiencies they would likely not have made them in the first place. While they are welcome (on Wikipedia) to do what they can, it really needs a fresh pair of eyes (or two, or more) to do it properly.
:It's likely that other editors will either look at the article directly or be prompted to by this query. [Regrettably, I am not free to do so until at least tomorrow afternoon.] {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/2.122.1.40|2.122.1.40]] ([[User talk:2.122.1.40|talk]]) 19:18, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi,Thanks for help. I found GOCE. I will ask them.[[User:Forest90|Forest90]] ([[User talk:Forest90|talk]]) 14:23, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Forest90}}, You can copy it to your sandbox to work on [[User:WelpThatWorked|WelpThatWorked]] ([[User talk:WelpThatWorked|talk]]) 19:30, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi [[User talk:WelpThatWorked|talk]],Thanks for helping me. I found GOCE. I will ask them for copy edit[[User:Forest90|Forest90]] ([[User talk:Forest90|talk]]) 11:37, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

== Visual Editor / MediaWiki edit toolbar ==

Do we have any statistics on what percentage of editors are currently using Visual Editor and/or MediaWiki edit toolbar? I would like to update the percentages I have on my [[WP:CANCER]] page. --[[User:Guy Macon|Guy Macon]] ([[User talk:Guy Macon|talk]]) 17:34, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

:Progress so far: [[meta:Grants_talk:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation of educational video and website series#Measures of success discussion, copied from this page on English Wikipedia]]

:Related: [[User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 234#Video tutorial regarding Wikipedia referencing with VisualEditor]]

:Anyone interested might want to go to the meta page and post a message that you are also interested in the answer. --[[User:Guy Macon|Guy Macon]] ([[User talk:Guy Macon|talk]]) 00:16, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

== Phonetics guidelines and the IPA template ==

Is there a way to have [[Template:IPA-es]] to indicate things like ''Venezuela Spanish'' or ''Argentinian Spanish''? Also if there is an article about a local celebrity, like for example the president of Peru, is there any guideline to decide if we should use standard Spanish or Peruvian pronunciation? --[[User:MaoGo|MaoGo]] ([[User talk:MaoGo|talk]]) 17:36, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

== ToC problem ==

In [[Carter (name)]], there's a Compact ToC being used. It seems to be interfering with the display of a generic ToC for all the sections and subsections. Is there a solution? [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 20:01, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
: {{ReplyTo|Clarityfiend}} Not sure what problem you are seeing, but does the documentation at {{t|Compact_ToC}} help?  It shows all the different options, which seem to be quite a few.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 20:18, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
::{{resolved}} Are my eyes playing tricks on me? I didn't see that top ToC before. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 20:21, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
::: {{ReplyTo|Clarityfiend}} I've made an edit, so there are now two TOCs. As RudolfRed says, you could also do it by adding custom entries within the compact TOC. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 20:23, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
::::Aha, thanks. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 20:29, 26 February 2019 (UTC)