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= September 10 =

== Bean to bar chocolate manufacturers list ==

Tabal Chocolate is a Bean to Bar chocolate manufacturer in Wisconsin, USA.  We are interested in being added to the manufacturers list on that bean to bar page.
We are a registered user and would like to know how to be added to the list.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tabalchocolate|Tabalchocolate]] ([[User talk:Tabalchocolate#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tabalchocolate|contribs]]) 02:26, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:First you need to change your username(see your user talk page); second, you need to read [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:PAID]]; you can then make an [[WP:ER|edit request]] on the article talk page. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 02:34, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

==[[Ronald Ferguson]]==
I  have  failed  when  trying  to  add on the  [[Ronald  Ferguson]]  page  the  file of the  photo of the  Duke   -  on this  page - [[William Montagu Douglas Scott, 6th Duke of Buccleuch]].  Please  assist  [[Special:Contributions/203.132.68.1|203.132.68.1]] ([[User talk:203.132.68.1|talk]]) 04:45, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{Done}} How's this?  --[[User:Gronk Oz|Gronk Oz]] ([[User talk:Gronk Oz|talk]]) 05:04, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

== Parliament Square  - Millicent Fawcett Statue  ==

As I understand the present situation, this is incorrect. This is proposed,  not actual. I have just been asked to write to Westminster Council planning to make an objection to the removal of the current Emmeline Pankhurst statue and replace it with the above.  Wikipedia  can't publish articles about world facts that are untrue. This is a serious breach of public trust. Get your facts right. Don't publish stuff that is about to, may or is planned to happen!

Andrew Patching  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Andrew Patching|Andrew Patching]] ([[User talk:Andrew Patching#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Andrew Patching|contribs]]) 08:21, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Are you claiming that the BBC's [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43868925 report and picture of the unveiling] are fake news?  [[User:Dbfirs|<span style="font-family: verdana;"><i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i></span>]] 08:32, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:I think you're confusing a few things. The Fawcett statue was unveiled in Parliament Square in April (see link above). The Emmeline Pankhurst statue has always been in [[Victoria Tower Gardens]] which is across the road. The plans are to not move the Pankhurst statue to Parliament Square, which was originally considered, but to move it to Regent’s Park instead. Our article seems to explain this quite well. You might want to also read [https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/pankhurst-statue-on-the-move this article]. -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 08:46, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
::
::{{bcc|Andrew Patching}}More to the point, are you claiming that [[:commons:Category:Statue of Millicent Fawcett|the seventeen separate photos we currently host of the statue ''in situ'' are fake]]? Incidentally, {{tq|the removal of the current Emmeline Pankhurst statue and replace it with the above}} ''is'' flat-out fake news; the proposal is to relocate the current statue of Pankhurst and replace it with another of her at the same scale as the other statues in Parliament Square to put an end to the current anomaly where she's half the height of everyone else.&nbsp;&#8209;&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|Iridescent]] 08:50, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your immediate and excellent response. I stand corrected. Good to see Wikipedia robust and diligent. My recent £2 was well spent. 
Andrew Patching.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Andrew Patching|Andrew Patching]] ([[User talk:Andrew Patching#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Andrew Patching|contribs]]) 09:06, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Separate block of text, outside the flow of an article ==

{{Moved discussion from|Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Separate block of text, outside the flow of an article|2=&#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#999;">&#9742;</span>]] 08:48, 10 September 2018 (UTC)}}

I am struggling to incorporate a piece of information in the narrative flow of an article. I could just use a footnote, but that is somewhat hidden, and this point (the size of the Sutherland estate - it was nearly a third of the county of Sutherland) is one of the "basics" for understanding the subject. It seems that putting it in a separate block of text may be a solution. I don't know the jargon for this layout device, whether it is acceptable in the Wikipedia styleguide or how to achieve it technically. Can someone give me some pointers on these 3 questions. If I can solve this problem, I can probably break down the article into smaller sections, so improving readability.

The article is [[Patrick Sellar]] - which is rather obviously half-written at the moment - but that should change shortly.<br/>[[User:ThoughtIdRetired|ThoughtIdRetired]] ([[User talk:ThoughtIdRetired|talk]]) 08:20, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|ThoughtIdRetired}} After studying your comment and that article I could use some clarification. Why is the "piece of information" unsuitable for open prose like almost everything else? &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#999;">&#9742;</span>]] 13:19, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

::After kicking this idea around at odd moments away from a computer, and now reading your comment I see your point. (I was probably too fixed on the idea of a sequential narrative for most of the article, and am aware that I had already breached that objective.) What the article really needs is a map, and the text I am trying to find a home for could easily be the caption for that map. It might be difficult to source one without infringing copyright, but I am working on that. (One problem is that all(!!) books on the subject have the same map of estates in Sutherland from the same original source.)<br/>[[User:ThoughtIdRetired|ThoughtIdRetired]] ([[User talk:ThoughtIdRetired|talk]]) 17:07, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

:::{{u|ThoughtIdRetired}} the folks at the [[WP:GL/M|Map workshop]] should be able to create something suitable for your needs. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 10:31, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

== Duplicate Name but no page ==

Hi,

I am an actress called Barbara Drennan. I have tried to set up a page with that name but I am being told the name is in use, however, when I search for Barbara Drennan on Wikipedia there is not page?  I have had to set up this name as Barbara Elizabeth Drennan to use this facility, but I really need my name on the page to be Barbara Drennan. Please can you advise.

Thank you!  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Barbara Elizabeth Drennan|Barbara Elizabeth Drennan]] ([[User talk:Barbara Elizabeth Drennan#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Barbara Elizabeth Drennan|contribs]]) 09:02, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{replyto|Barbara Elizabeth Drennan}} What you are doing is attempting to create accounts, not create an article.  The account "Barbara Drennan" was created in 2014.  You created the account you are using now.  Your account page is not article space.  An article about you will not have "User:" in the title.  That said, creating an autobiographical article is highly discouraged on Wikipedia, see [[WP:AUTO]].  You also cannot use your user page for promotional purposes such as increasing your profile, please see [[WP:USERPAGE]] for what acceptable user pages are; they are supposed to be used for introducing yourself to the Wikipedia community in the context of your Wikipedia editing or use.  [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:33, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:You may be able to [[WP:USURP|usurp the username]] you want to use, but that will not allow you to promote yourself. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:34, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

== Want to create a Wikipedia Page for a Film Producer ==

Please guide me through.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:A pandit06|A pandit06]] ([[User talk:A pandit06#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/A pandit06|contribs]]) 09:56, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hi [[User:A pandit06|A pandit06]]. I recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's [[WP:TWA|new user tutorial]]. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be helpful to you (including article creation, what you're asking for help with here). Most users who take this advice tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them. If you still have questions after completing the entire tutorial, let me know by clicking [[User talk:Oshwah|here]] to message me. I'll be happy to help you further if you do. Happy editing! :-) [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup>  09:58, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
==Oshwah view my user page!!==
Oshwah, I need an admin to help me about something on my [[User:627544editor|userpage]]. [[User:627544editor|627544editor]] ([[User talk:627544editor|talk]]) 11:56, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|627544editor}} Hello, if you wish to contact {{ping|Oshwah}} (courtesy ping for Oshwah) the best place to do so is at his [[User talk:Oshwah|talk page]]. Thank you. [[User:Eagleash|Eagleash]] ([[User talk:Eagleash|talk]]) 12:45, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:[[User:627544editor|627544editor]] - You can message me by clicking [[User talk:Oshwah|here]]. Make sure to describe exactly what you need help with in as much detail as you can so that I can assist you completely :-). Cheers - [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup>  12:43, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

==Psst sandbox...==
Any administrator! I've noticed that most edits to the sandbox are just tryouts for vandalism by IPs. Semi-protect immediately![[User:627544editor|627544editor]] ([[User talk:627544editor|talk]]) 11:56, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

:The purpose of the sandbox is to enable editors to try out edits without affecting published articles.  If you have spotted a pattern of vandalism, then please join us in reverting any vandalism to articles.  A prior test in the sandbox will make it easy to identify intentions.  Protecting the sandbox would defeat its purpose.  [[User:Dbfirs|<span style="font-family: verdana;"><i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i></span>]] 12:37, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
::If it is really offensive or is copyright infringement, you may revert the edit(s) and warn the user using the template {{tlx|uw-sandbox1}} [[User:Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="color:#008000">'''—AE'''</span>]] '''([[User talk:Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="color:blue;">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="color:red">contributions</span>]])''' 12:43, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|627544editor}} Just to add, the sandbox is cleared pretty regularly. [[User:Eagleash|Eagleash]] ([[User talk:Eagleash|talk]]) 12:46, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{ec}} [[User:627544editor|627544editor]] - We typically don't ever apply protection to sandbox pages - that's the place where we ''want'' users to make their test edits and other changes if they're going to do so, and instead of doing so on an article or other place where such edits would be disruptive. If you see extremely problematic edits to the sandbox (or anywhere on Wikipedia) such as threats against another user, serious violations of Wikipedia's [[WP:BLP|biographies of living persons]] policy, or copyright violations, as [[User:Abelmoschus Esculentus|Abelmoschus Esculentus]] said above - definitely revert those edits and (in addition to warning the user) let someone know so that an administrator can redact the revisions. Let me (or anyone else) know if you have any more questions - you can message me by clicking [[User talk:Oshwah|here]], and I'll be happy to answer them. Or you're of course welcome to ask anyone else. Thanks :-) [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup>  12:51, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
::If {{U|627544editor}} doesn't mind, if I could tack on a second question to theirs while we're on the subject.... The special ability of sandboxes, where anything can be entered without disrupting anything else—that's an ability of the sandboxes themselves and not their talk pages, correct? I was always under the impression that any changes made there went live as soon as saved (and I don't think I've ever "tested" it myself to see if that's true). Thank you in advance. '''<span style="font-size:90%;border:2px solid #FB2B11;border-radius:50px;font-color:#00008b">[[User talk:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008b;font-variant:small-caps">&nbsp;spintendo&nbsp;</span>]]</span>''' 16:55, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

== Change language link ==

I've found that the link from the Dutch article "Biljoen" https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biljoen (in Dutch meaning 1,000,000,000,000; one million million; 10 to the power of 12) is linked to the English "Billon" which linguistically makes sense but it is incorrect. The Dutch "Biljoen" should be linked to the English "Trillion". 


Dutch / English / In Numbers

miljoen  	million  	1.000.000

'''miljard  	billion'''  	1.000.000.000

biljoen  	trillion  	1.000.000.000.000

biljard  	quadrillion  	1.000.000.000.000.000

triljoen  	quintillion  	1.000.000.000.000.000.000

triljard  	sextillion  	1.000.000.000.000.000.000.000


More correct information can be found here: https://www.languagelab.nl/stijlgids/billion-is-geen-biljoen. 

Can someone change that? Or how do I change that myself?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:OliverTaylorSmith|OliverTaylorSmith]] ([[User talk:OliverTaylorSmith#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OliverTaylorSmith|contribs]]) 12:07, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Your Dutch article explains that the American word Billion is a false friend because in America, and increasingly in the UK (since [[Harold Wilson]] decreed a change in meaning) the word is used with the American meaning of a thousand million.  Some of us here in the UK still use the traditional British meaning (ten to the power of 12) that was taught pre-Harold Wilson; a meaning that is common throughout most of Europe. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dbfirs|Dbfirs]] ([[User talk:Dbfirs#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dbfirs|contribs]]) 12:33, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small>
:{{u|OliverTaylorSmith}}, just below the list of languages, you should be able to find something that says "Edit links". Clicking on that will take you to the right place, in this case, [[wikidata:Q41650356]], the wikidata entry on "Billion". You will be able to login with the same account on any WMF project, so you should be able to edit it with your current account. It would seem that, in this case, the link is intentional though, since the entry specifically says it's referring to both values. — [[User:Alpha3031|Alpha3031]] ([[User talk:Alpha3031|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Alpha3031|c]]) 14:28, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

== Want to add literature references to Vincent van Gogh page ==

Hello,

I am a librarian working at an two art museums in Denmark (ARKEN Museum of Art and Ny Carlsberg Glyptotek)and I would like to add a literature reference to the Vincent van Gogh article.  

Jalving, Camilla, ed. ''Van Gogh'' 
Content - I plough on my canvases: Vincent van Gogh's view of nature / Dorthe Juul Rugaard.  Through the pupilgates /Merete Pryds Helle. The art of being immortal / Wouter van der Veen. Vincent van Gogh & the implicate order / Christian Gether. 
ISBN: 9788778751294  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:JenJoGun|JenJoGun]] ([[User talk:JenJoGun#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/JenJoGun|contribs]]) 13:42, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{replyto|JenJoGun}} We cite references for facts in an article.  The [[Vincent van Gogh]] article is extensively referenced, but if either of your sources can be used as further references for existing statements in the article, or if you wish to add additional encyclopedic information and cite these references, then please feel free to do so. Adding additional external links to works that are not used to cite specific statements is a bit more problematic: see [[Wikipedia:External links]]. The article already has some of these. I recommend that you open a discussion on the article's talk page ([[Talk:Vincent van Gogh]]) about the usefulness of your references as external links. If you decide to proceed but are unsure of how to actually edit the article, put your recommendations (in any format) on the talk page and ask for help by adding {{T|request edit}} (with the curly braces). -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 22:28, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

== Costs and consequences of the national debt. ==

Much is given to the national debt itself in Wikipedia. It's nearly always a discussion about the debt with comparatively little or nothing, by comparison, about the its annual cost in terms of interest costs, social wellness levels and inflation. You can get a flavor of my concerns by searching this Wikipedia site using keywords "national debt" and "cost of national debt." Facts and discussions about the debt are important, but I believe its possible to make the case that facts about the cost of it are equally important, or even more important.

And so it is I ask that you create a page devoted to the cost and consequences of the national debt; and that such a page be headed by a quote from John DeLulio of the Brookings Institute, To Wit: "The way we finance our current expenses and entitlements could be characterized as a Big Gorge on the assets of the not yet born."

Last year alone, debt service costs were $300 billion--enough to repair our bridges and roads twice. The CBO projects such costs will reach $800 billion and beyond within a few years. I suspect with a sense of urgency, such facts should be part of an ongoing national discussion soonest. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Geanoulis|Geanoulis]] ([[User talk:Geanoulis#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Geanoulis|contribs]]) 14:24, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small>
:Hey [[User:Geanoulis|Geanoulis]]. It's not totally clear what such an article would contain that is not already covered by [[National debt of the United States#Risks and debates]], [[Political debates about the United States federal budget]], and [[Deficit reduction in the United States]]. But additional information, especially more up-to-date information can certainly be added there, and would help to improve the existing articles. [[User:GreenMeansGo|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color:#07CB4B">G</span><span style="color:#449351">M</span><span style="color:#35683d">G</span></span>]][[User talk:GreenMeansGo#top|<sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk</sup>]] 14:40, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
*{{re|Geanoulis}} Wikipedia [[WP:RGW|is not the place to right great wrongs, raise awareness of political issues, and the like]]. More reliably-sourced information is always good; but we are definitely not in the business of instilling {{tq|a sense of urgency}} in the reader (see [[FUD]]). [[User:Tigraan|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#008000;">Tigraan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tigraan|<span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me</span>]]</sup> 15:33, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

== Picture and image for your page on Robbins, Illinois ==

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY ARE YOU USING THIS UGLY PICTURE AS A IMAGE FOR ROBBINS.  ROBBINS HAS PLENTY OF BEAUTIFUL HOMES.  PLEASE UPDATE  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:2C7:680:1E49:4C88:9E02:7252:85D1|2601:2C7:680:1E49:4C88:9E02:7252:85D1]] ([[User talk:2601:2C7:680:1E49:4C88:9E02:7252:85D1#top|talk]]) 14:26, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hey anon. It's not totally clear what image you are referring to, since the only two images currently on the article are maps. But if you would like to upload some better images of Robbins, Illinois that you have taken, and license them for free public use, I'm sure they would help to improve the article. You can do this on our sister project, Wikimedia Commons by using the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard upload wizard]. Just be sure they are images you have taken yourself, and not images taken from elsewhere online, because you would not own the copyright for those images, and would not be able to license them for public use. [[User:GreenMeansGo|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color:#07CB4B">G</span><span style="color:#449351">M</span><span style="color:#35683d">G</span></span>]][[User talk:GreenMeansGo#top|<sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk</sup>]] 14:38, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:Please do not [[WP:SHOUT]] [[User:Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="color:#008000">'''—AE'''</span>]] '''([[User talk:Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="color:blue;">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Abelmoschus Esculentus|<span style="color:red">contributions</span>]])''' 14:46, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
::Fixed the shouted heading per [[WP:TPO]]. Also corrected the spelling error. &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#999;">&#9742;</span>]] 15:32, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:Convenience link: [[Robbins, Illinois]] [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 16:59, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:I suspect that the IP searched for Robbins, Illinois on Google and thinks that the picture is coming from WP. It is not. [[User:Shoy|shoy]] <small>([[User talk:Shoy|reactions]])</small> 17:29, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
::I think yer right. That's definitely an oogly picture.[https://www.google.com/search?q=robbins+illinois&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-ab] &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#999;">&#9742;</span>]] 17:31, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:::Our stock answer for confused posters:
:::[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's [[Knowledge Graph]] uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong.<!--- Template:HD/GKG ---> [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 18:29, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

== I cant find my account ==

Hello, I was my friend was approached by an experienced wikipedian editor to help her put up a page on wikipedia for a sum of money, we have provided her with our username and password, now I'm trying to add images to the page but we're not able to log in as it says our username doesn't exists, can some one delete our account? and what will happen to our page, can the same person delete it? thank you and looking forward to your answer[[User:Nouf87|Nouf87]] ([[User talk:Nouf87|talk]]) 14:41, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:You don't mention which account you are referring to, nor the article involved, but I can say that accounts cannot be deleted, but sharing accounts and especially passwords is not allowed.  If you did this, your account was probably blocked as [[WP:COMPROMISED]].  Further, if you have not reviewed and complied with [[WP:PAID]], you can be blocked for that. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:45, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{ec}} [[User:Nouf87|Nouf87]] - ''Woah, woah, woah''! You said that you gave the username and password to your previous account to another editor? Who exactly? Where? When? [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup>  14:46, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{u|Nouf87}}, I'm afraid that it is likely you have been scammed. As the previous editors have mentioned [[WP:PAID|paid editing]] is frowned upon, and offering to help put up a page for payment is pretty much looking for trouble. [[WP:NOSHARING|Sharing Wikipedia accounts]] is something that would likely get the account banned.
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:Basically, if anyone asks you to pay them for any reason on Wikipedia, they are probably running a scam (unless they're Jimbo). The AfC people even put up a warning [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Scam warning|here]]. That said, more details on exactly what your old username was, what the page is and when this happened would help us come up with a plan of how to move forward. — [[User:Alpha3031|Alpha3031]] ([[User talk:Alpha3031|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Alpha3031|c]]) 15:04, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:Some users incorrectly think their account doesn't work because their user page says "Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact title". If the account you refer to is [[User:Nouf87]] then you are already logged in and the account is working. The quoted message means you have not created a user page for the account but doing this is optional. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 18:24, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

== Stuck on 2-factor authentication ==

A while back I enabled 2-factor authentication, but since then I've apparently forgotten how it works. When the login asks for the code from the authentication device, I've tried using Google Authenticator on my phone, but the code that I get isn't working for Wikipedia login. I know that I have my username and password correct. Can you help?  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/199.133.43.3|199.133.43.3]] ([[User talk:199.133.43.3#top|talk]]) 15:02, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If you still have the scratch-codes that were displayed during the [[meta:H:2FA|2FA]]-setup, you can use one of the to login and another to disable 2FA on [[Special:Two-factor authentication]]. Else, if you have a [[WP:CID|committed identity]] or can prove your identity some other way, you can try filing a request at [[phab:|Phabricator]] for a developer to manually disable 2FA on your account. If this also does not work, there is nothing we can do to help since we have no idea what the problem is with your device's authenticator. In that case, you will have to abandon your account and start a new one. Regards [[User:SoWhy|<span style="color:#7A2F2F;font-variant:small-caps">So</span>]][[User talk:SoWhy|<span style="color:#474F84;font-variant:small-caps">Why</span>]] 15:10, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{ec}} What username does this involve? When you enabled 2FA, you were provided with five scratch codes that you could use at any time and without need for the authenticator - do you still have them? If so, enter one of your scratch codes as your 2FA number, and you'll be logged in and you can disable it if this is what you desire. [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup>  15:11, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm good now. [[User:Ike9898|ike9898]] ([[User talk:Ike9898|talk]]) 19:10, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

== Difference between content disagreement and attacks ==

I've been having a dispute on [[Talk:George Washington#editbreak2]] and below about some added content. I feel like it's a minor dispute, but the other editor seems to feel attacked. There are more than two people in the discussion, so I can't use [[WP:3O]]. I don't really want to use [[WP:DRN]] yet, because it's a manageable content dispute, except for what I feel like are assumptions of [[WP:AGF|bad faith]]. And it's definitely not [[WP:ANI]] territory. So, I was wondering if someone could drop in there and see if there are attacks I'm missing, or if the other editor needs to be guided away from personalizing the discussion. Thanks. --[[User talk:SarekOfVulcan|<span class="gfSarekSig">SarekOfVulcan (talk)</span>]] 15:59, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:I fail to see why persistent vio of [[WP:BATTLEGROUND]] is "definitely not [[WP:ANI]] territory". Anyway I don't think this is the kind of "help" this page is meant to provide. If you just want eyes on a discussion, I think [[WP:AN]] would be better, or just hit up one or two admins/experienced editors on their UTPs. &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#999;">&#9742;</span>]] 16:36, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

== Author's work citing ==

I have been trying to bring the wikipedia page for Gina Barreca up to snuff but am unsure how to do so. The errors on the page include:
This biography of a living person needs additional citations for verification. (May 2018)
This article relies too much on references to primary sources. (May 2018)
This article may contain improper references to self-published sources. (May 2018)
This article may rely excessively on sources too closely associated with the subject, potentially preventing the article from being verifiable and neutral. (May 2018)
Some of this article's listed sources may not be reliable. (May 2018)

A lot of her work is cited because she is an author but I think this might be contributing to the errors. Should the articles be linked instead of cited???
 PLEASE HELP
[[User:ARockefeller|ARockefeller]] ([[User talk:ARockefeller|talk]]) 16:53, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

:Convenience link:
:{{la|Gina Barreca}}
:-- †<span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|dismas]]</span>†|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:06, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:Hello, {{U|ARockefeller}}. It's not of itself a problem to cite works ''by'' the subject of an article, but it is a problem if none of the sources cited are independent. Please understand that Wikipedia is basically not interested in ''anything'' the subject of an article has said, done, or published, ''except'' insofar as independent commentators have written about it. Almost all the sources currently cited in [[Gina Barreca]] are either ''by'' Barreca, by ''an organisation she is affiliated with'', or based on ''an interview with her'': none of these are regarded as independent. I haven't looked at all of them; but I am dubious that at present they establish that Barreca is [[WP:NAUTHOR|notable]] in the sense that Wikipedia uses the word. What is needed is at least two or three references where people who have no connection with Barreca have chosen to write about her at some length. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 23:20, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

== Date ranges in cite templates ==
I'm trying to cite an article series that was published in ''[[Motion Picture News]]'', a weekly magazine, between February 7, 1925 and April 11, 1925. The cite magazine template [[Help:Citation_Style_1#CS1 compliance with Wikipedia's Manual of Style|appears to allow the use of date ranges]], but when I put {{xt|February 7, 1925 – April 11, 1925}} in the {{xt|<nowiki>|date=</nowiki>}} parameter, I get a check date value error. Do any other editors know if there's a way to get around this issue? If there isn't, it's not a big deal—using cite templates isn't a necessity. I'm just curious whether cite templates can support date ranges. Thanks, [[User:Lord Bolingbroke|Lord Bolingbroke]] ([[User talk:Lord Bolingbroke|talk]]) 19:58, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:I think {{xt|February 7 - April 11, 1925}} should work. [[User:Ruslik0|Ruslik]]_[[User Talk:Ruslik0|<span style="color:red">Zero</span>]] 20:08, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:: It does indeed. Thanks! It looks like this is the format prescribed in [[MOS:DATERANGE]] for a range between specific dates in different months, so that makes sense. [[User:Lord Bolingbroke|Lord Bolingbroke]] ([[User talk:Lord Bolingbroke|talk]]) 20:57, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

== Why were my edits deleted.  ==

I reworked my page on Wikipedia yesterday. Today all of my edits are deleted. I would like a bit more control over what gets published about my work and decide upon the images that are used.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Vincent Desierio|Vincent Desierio]] ([[User talk:Vincent Desierio#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Vincent Desierio|contribs]]) 23:32, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{ping|Vincent Desierio}} Please read our [[WP:COI|policy on editing with a conflict of interest]].  In short, you should '''not''' edit the page, but make [[WP:ER|edit requests]] on the talk page instead.  Also, it's not "your" page, it is ''our'' page that happens to be about you -- see [[WP:OWN]]. [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson|talk]]) 23:38, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Vincent Desierio}}You have no more control over the information in that page and any other editor. In fact, you have less, because you are restricted by our [[WP:COI]] policy mentioned above. We are an encyclopedia, not a social media site. Would you expect Encyclopedia Britannica to allow you to modify their article about you? However, if something in that article violates our policies on biographies of living people ([[WP:BLP]]), we will try hard to react quickly to correct it if you tell us about it. We also are pretty good about using better images if you upload them under a compatible copyright license, but the image must be better in some other editor's judgement, not yours. -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 01:28, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

==[[Ronald Ferguson]]==
The  date should  be  died  1914 (not  1915)  under the  photo  of the  duke  on this  page.  I  am  unable  to  change it  myself.  Thanks  [[Special:Contributions/203.132.68.1|203.132.68.1]] ([[User talk:203.132.68.1|talk]]) 23:39, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{done}} I notice that your IP address has recently made several edits to Ronald Ferguson's article, so I'm not sure why you say you are unable to change the caption. In the future, don't be scared to [[Wikipedia:Be bold|be bold]] and make edits like this yourself :) [[User:Lord Bolingbroke|Lord Bolingbroke]] ([[User talk:Lord Bolingbroke|talk]]) 00:29, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

== The Altibase HDB page should be removed ==

Altibase HDB is no longer valid. Altibase HDB has been removed by Altibase about 3 years ago. Altibase HDB is now integrated with Altibase.
The Altibase HDB page should be removed. Please help us to remove Altibase HDB page  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Windogwiki|Windogwiki]] ([[User talk:Windogwiki#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Windogwiki|contribs]]) 23:58, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Convenience link: {{la|ALTIBASE HDB}}
:I'm not sure the content of the page should be removed entirely—it's fine for an article to document something that is no longer being produced as long as the article cites reliable sources. If Altibase HDB is no longer being manufactured, feel free to update its article with reliable sources that document this. I notice there is currently a template at the top of the ALTIBASE HDB article suggesting that it be merged with our article on [[Altibase]], and this seems like a reasonable option to pursue as well. You may contribute to the merge discussion by clicking the "discuss" link in the template and adding to the "Merge proposal" section on the Altibase talk page. See [[WP:MERGEPROP]] for more info (specifically "Step 3: Discuss the merger"). [[User:Lord Bolingbroke|Lord Bolingbroke]] ([[User talk:Lord Bolingbroke|talk]]) 01:17, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Windogwiki}} [[WP:NTEMP|Notability is not temporary]]. If the subject was ever notable, it still is. Someone (not you: you have a [[WP:COI]]), should convert it to past tense. You may make this suggestion on the article's talk page. This is separate from the proposed article merger. -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 01:34, 11 September 2018 (UTC)