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= October 11 =

==[[Wedding of Princess Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank]]==
Please  help  references   number  3    and  number  40  - they  both  should  have that the page is  called  "Classic  FM"  -  this   name  is  not in the  citation.  Please  fix  Thanks [[Special:Contributions/203.132.68.1|203.132.68.1]] ([[User talk:203.132.68.1|talk]]) 00:04, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Muzilon|Muzilon]] ([[User talk:Muzilon|talk]]) 00:21, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

== Using IP while at work? ==

I got a new job a few weeks ago, and thinking of the significance, I've made a few edits (exactly five since 9/19) while logged out while at work. I was wondering if there is a way to disclose that those IP edits were me, so as to avoid any accusations of improperity (even if it's unlikely they would be traced to me?). 

Also, I am a bit paranoid about logging into Wikipedia at my new job. I don't know to what extent they monitor internet usage - but I'm sort of reluctant to log in to my WP account at work, at least not while new... anyway, is there a way I can disclose that the IP address is an 'alternate identity' of my account? I'd like to do this by the books. If not, I can just NOT edit at work but sometimes you see an error that is screaming to be fixed. Does this make sense? I think this makes me sound suspicious but I'm really not! [[User:El cid, el campeador|<span style="color:black">'''‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:el cid, el campeador|<span style="color:teal">ᐐT₳LKᐬ</span>]]</sup>  01:39, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
*For the Wikipedia stuff: AFAICT you cannot "reclaim" edits from an IP to an account, though you can of course leave a note on the talk page signed by your account. You can however request [[WP:OVERSIGHT]] (on the "I forgot to log in" basis). And [[WP:LOGOUT|editing while logged-out does not need to be disclosed]] as long as you are not doing it in a deceiving manner (e.g. participating to RfCs under different identities).
:This being said... You seem to have a very wrong idea of how internet works. Assuming you are accessing Wikipedia over [[HTTPS]] (with the proper certificate), network monitoring by your employer can only see that you access Wikipedia, not what data you send there or which page you view, so they should not be able to tell apart when you log in, edit, or view pages. On the other hand, your IP could (maybe) be traced to your work computer, so if they know to look at Wikipedia contributions, they can find the corresponding timestamps and say "El Cid was really slacking off today".
:The above assumes your employer uses standard network monitoring rather than in-computer techniques (such as a [[keylogger]] or a modified browser), which could record pretty much every single action of you, but I would be extremely surprised if run-of-the-mill employers used this. HTTPS is not invincible either and there are plenty of [[side channel attack]]s to recover supposedly-encrypted information, but cryptography is a full-time job, so the chances that a sleazy IT guy will steal your WP password from network sniffing are extremely low (even detecting that you log in would be nontrivial). [[User:Tigraan|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#008000;">Tigraan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tigraan|<span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me</span>]]</sup> 10:14, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

==[[Wedding of Princess Anne and Mark Phillips]]==
There is  a  dot  symbol  between  the numbers  8  and  9.  Please  remove if  this is the  right  thing  to  do.  Thanks[[Special:Contributions/203.132.68.1|203.132.68.1]] ([[User talk:203.132.68.1|talk]]) 01:54, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:Fixed.--[[User:Muzilon|Muzilon]] ([[User talk:Muzilon|talk]]) 01:59, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

==[[Wedding of Princess Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank]]==
Sorry -  I  attempted  to  enlarge   a  file in the  "Venue"  section on this  page  and  removed it  altogether.  Please  replace if  you  have the  time.  [[Special:Contributions/203.132.68.1|203.132.68.1]] ([[User talk:203.132.68.1|talk]]) 02:38, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:Already re-added. [[User:Ruslik0|Ruslik]]_[[User Talk:Ruslik0|<span style="color:red">Zero</span>]] 09:54, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

== Misbehavior of the search engine ==

It is common that two redirects differs only by their capitalization and that the search engine proposes the miscapitalization instead of the right capitalization. For example, when typing "galois f" in the search window, the search engine proposes {{no redirect|Galois Field}}, and not {{no redirect|Galois field}}. This would not be a real issue if the correct capitalization would also be suggested, but this is not the case.  This may be confusing for readers who know Wikipedia capitalization rules, and also for editors who try improving redirects.

I have tried to solve this issue by categorizing the right redirect with {{tl|R from alternative name}} and the miscapitalized one with {{tl|R from miscapitalisation}}, but this seems to not work, even after a few days. 

What should be done for getting the correct suggestions from the search engine? [[User:D.Lazard|D.Lazard]] ([[User talk:D.Lazard|talk]]) 09:42, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
*I am not sure that is a "real" problem since clicking the link from the search box leads you to the correct article (via redirect). This being said, there is apparently ''something'' preventing multiple capitalizations from appearing in the search field, so that ''something'' could as well give the correct one. Maybe head over to [[WP:VPT]] if none answers you here (on the HD)?
:I strongly disagree that providing both capitalization as search results would be better - maybe it helps editors fix redirects, but it certainly would not help readers searching for a topic to have duplicated entries. [[User:Tigraan|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#008000;">Tigraan</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tigraan|<span title="Send me a silicium letter!" style="color:">Click here to contact me</span>]]</sup> 09:57, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
::I also think it would be silly to show two redirects to the same page, or both a redirect and its target. The goal is to find a page and not to educate about capitalizations. If two capitalizations are different pages or redirects like Cat/CAT or Gold/GOLD then it's good that both can be suggested although it may only happen when some capitalizations are written in the search box. {{tl|R from miscapitalisation}} is an English Wikipedia template and not a part of the MediaWiki software. I don't think there is any way to tell MediaWiki the preferred capitalization (apart from only having one capitalization). It would probably require a software change requested at [[phab:]] but I think the developers have better things to use their time on. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 18:46, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

== Why is there no "back" arrow on Wikipedia pages ? ==

- to put it another way, how can one return to the previous page?  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Macburnell|Macburnell]] ([[User talk:Macburnell#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Macburnell|contribs]]) 18:43, 11 October 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: {{ReplyTo|Macburnell}} You can click the back button in your web browser, right?  I'm not sure what you're really asking for.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 18:46, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

::Thanks, but there is no line at the top of the page with browser (Chrome) info - Wikipedia fills the whole screen.  I have found that I can get back to the previous page by using alt+left arrow.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Macburnell|Macburnell]] ([[User talk:Macburnell#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Macburnell|contribs]]) 19:42, 11 October 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::: Sounds like you've got something strange in your Chrome browser settings.  See https://www.lifewire.com/activate-full-screen-mode-google-chrome-4103634 or alternative pages for advice on getting in and out of full-screen mode. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 19:54, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
::If you are on "fullscreen", try F11. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 20:40, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

== I want to put my company artical in wikipedia. for that i need your help ==

As it is a humble request to write an article of my company to get know by people for the services provided by us. My company Name is Magpie Digital, www.magpiedigitalservice.com, Director Amey Kakde, Sandhya Kakde. Founded in 2016. we Work in Marketing and advertisement. please help w to write article for my company.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ameykakde|Ameykakde]] ([[User talk:Ameykakde#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ameykakde|contribs]]) 20:45, 11 October 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: {{ReplyTo|Ameykakde}} Don't do this.  Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an venue for advertising your business.  [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 20:49, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:{{ReplyTo|Ameykakde}} RudolfRed is absolutely correct. That's not just one editor's opinion, it's Wikipedia policy. See [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not]]. If you company ever becomes notable enough to warrant an article here (see [[WP:NCORP]]), You should still not write the article, since you have a conflict of interest ([[WP:COI]]). Someone else will write the article in that case. -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 02:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

== Where to ask questions about the Wikipedia Manual of Style ==

Hello.  I have a question about the Wikipedia Manual of Style ([[WP:MOS]]).  Is this the correct place for me to be?  Thanks. [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 21:31, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

: I would expect MOS questions to be raised at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style]] (shortcut available at [[WT:MOS]]). --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 02:29, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

:: Thanks. [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 03:56, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

==2019 Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball season==
Can you fix the reference I made please. [[Special:Contributions/68.103.78.155|68.103.78.155]] ([[User talk:68.103.78.155|talk]]) 21:35, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:{{done}} As with a similar request yesterday, a "|" was missing between the url and 'publisher'. [[User:Eagleash|Eagleash]] ([[User talk:Eagleash|talk]]) 22:07, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

== Moving text from AfD log to its AfD page failed silently ==
I'm not sure if I should've posted to [[WP:AN]] or [[WP:VP/T]], so I'll ask here.

I tried to cut-paste move [[Special:Diff/863443818/863448552]] from [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2018 October 10]] to [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-Jewish violence in Eastern Galicia involving soldiers of the Blue Army]]. Attempting to publish the changes did nothing but take me back to wikitext editor, no warning. All I got was the editnotice from [[Template:Editnotices/Group/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]], with a garbled link to [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Administrator instructions]] on top of that link (a bug in the template).

I checked [[Special:AbuseLog]]: Nothing there about my publishing attempts triggered any filters, to my awareness. (The LTA one is a fake positive, unrelated to the issue.)

Can someone try to perform the edit for me and then try to figure out what went wrong, please? [[Special:Contributions/84.250.17.211|84.250.17.211]] ([[User talk:84.250.17.211|talk]]) 22:43, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
*I had no problems making the edit.[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Anti-Jewish_violence_in_Eastern_Galicia_involving_soldiers_of_the_Blue_Army&diff=863619579&oldid=863448672] I don't know what went wrong for you. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
** Thanks, PrimeHunter. Now I notice there's an external link in that text to be moved, but I got no CAPTCHA prompt or input field at all. Huh. I'm still very curious to find out the actual source of the issue, as if it's a MediaWiki bug or something. (Uh, thinking about it, it was around 22:30 UTC which my guess might be MediaWiki update time at WMF.) Would you create [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-Jewish violence in Eastern Galicia involving soldiers of the Blue Army/test]] for a moment, with empty wikitext? Feel free to try as an unregistered contributor, too. [[Special:Contributions/84.250.17.211|84.250.17.211]] ([[User talk:84.250.17.211|talk]]) 23:03, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
*** I also know from previous experience disabling browser cookies can do that, but I assure you I have cookies enabled and I've never seen an issue like this before. [[Special:Contributions/84.250.17.211|84.250.17.211]] ([[User talk:84.250.17.211|talk]]) 23:08, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
** I could do it now too: [[Special:Diff/863621545]]. I have no idea. I guess I'll leave it be. [[Special:Contributions/84.250.17.211|84.250.17.211]] ([[User talk:84.250.17.211|talk]]) 23:15, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
** {{Ping|PrimeHunter}} I'm sorry for the disruptive editing, but I am still reproducing the edit as an unregistered contributor after blanking the page. This <em>weird</em>. Please try for yourself. [[Special:Contributions/84.250.17.211|84.250.17.211]] ([[User talk:84.250.17.211|talk]]) 23:20, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
*** I'm also noticing I cannot undo my blanking for the same reason. [[Special:Contributions/84.250.17.211|84.250.17.211]] ([[User talk:84.250.17.211|talk]]) 23:21, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
*** I know the issue is reproducible, but I'm unable to test this in [[Wikipedia:Sandbox]] because [[User:Lowercase sigmabot II]] is programmed to ignore {{Tl2|Nobots}} and reinsert the sandbox header (for very good reasons). Ideas? [[Special:Contributions/84.250.17.211|84.250.17.211]] ([[User talk:84.250.17.211|talk]]) 23:33, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
**** Actually, bingo. I reproduce the issue there. Just [[Special:Diff/863443818/863448552]], removing the wikitext (sandbox heading) and trying to publish does nothing at all. I didn't even have to save a blanked page first. Please <em>really</em> try for yourself (as an unregistered contributor). Maybe as a non-autoconfirmed editor? [[Special:Contributions/84.250.17.211|84.250.17.211]] ([[User talk:84.250.17.211|talk]]) 23:38, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
***** I've also reproduced at [[User talk:84.250.17.211/sandbox]] apparently (can't save the page), so it's not namespace specific. [[Special:Contributions/84.250.17.211|84.250.17.211]] ([[User talk:84.250.17.211|talk]]) 23:39, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
{{Moved discussion to|WP:VP/T#Unable to publish a very specific change (an AfD page) at any namespace as an unregistered contributor|Moving discussion there, more weird CAPTCHA issues. [[Special:Contributions/84.250.17.211|84.250.17.211]] ([[User talk:84.250.17.211|talk]]) 00:00, 12 October 2018 (UTC)}}