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= January 17 =

== Vandalism of Thomas Tallis article ==

I am new to edits on this site (just created account for this purpose) so please forgive me if this is the wrong page to post on this, but I looked at the article on Thomas Tallis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Tallis and it appears to have been the victim of schoolboy trolling, what would be the proper avenue to get it fixed?  [[User:Shynbald|Shynbald]] ([[User talk:Shynbald|talk]]) 00:04, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:Hi {{u|Shynbald}}. If you don't know how to fix the vandalism yourself then reporting it here is fine and appreciated. I've fixed the problems. --[[User:NeilN|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 00:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

== My Wiki page was deleted ==

I'm Kari Kimmel and somehow my wikipedia page was deleted.  I asked the the photo be removed, but the whole entire page is gone now.  Please help!
kari  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:KariKimmelHaskell|KariKimmelHaskell]] ([[User talk:KariKimmelHaskell#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KariKimmelHaskell|contribs]]) 01:21, 17 January 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hello Kari, first it isn't your page or article. No one has ownerships of an article on Wikipedia even if it is written about them. Next, the page was deleted as per [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kari_Kimmel|here]] because it didn't meet [[WP:GNG]] or [[WP:MUSICBIO]] as users couldn't find references for it. <span style="background-color: black">[[User:NZ Footballs Conscience|<span style="color: white">NZFC</span>]]</span>[[User talk:NZ Footballs Conscience|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 01:25, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:'''Note''' to any administrator, I think this might be a mistake and I might be able to save the page and meet [[WP:MUSICBIO]]. I'm happy for it to be recovered to my draft to work on if someone can? <span style="background-color: black">[[User:NZ Footballs Conscience|<span style="color: white">NZFC</span>]]</span>[[User talk:NZ Footballs Conscience|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 01:29, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
::{{ping|NZ Footballs Conscience}} Do you want it in draft space or your user space? --[[User:NeilN|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 01:52, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:::Draft space will be fine thank you. <span style="background-color: black">[[User:NZ Footballs Conscience|<span style="color: white">NZFC</span>]]</span>[[User talk:NZ Footballs Conscience|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 01:58, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
::::{{ping|NZ Footballs Conscience}} Here you go: [[Draft:Kari Kimmel]] Happy editing! --[[User:NeilN|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 02:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:::::Thank you, gives me another project to work on. <span style="background-color: black">[[User:NZ Footballs Conscience|<span style="color: white">NZFC</span>]]</span>[[User talk:NZ Footballs Conscience|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 02:08, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

== HOW TO ADD ABOUT ME IN WIKI ==

Hi., Sir/Ma'm
As we know wikipedia which is the popular wedsite around the world and also tell me how to add about me in wikipedia?  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/42.111.100.23|42.111.100.23]] ([[User talk:42.111.100.23#top|talk]]) 01:50, 17 January 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:{{nd}} Sorry, that's not how it works. We have no interest in what you have to say about yourself. If you are [[:WP:N|notable enough for there to be an article in an encyclopedia about you]], somebody else without a vested interest in you will eventually create such an article. --[[User:Orangemike|<span style="color:#F80">Orange Mike</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Orangemike|<span style="color:#FA0">Talk</span>]] 07:08, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

== [[LeToya Luckett]] ==

Please update my wife, LeToya Luckett picture on her Wikipedia page. The current picture is extremely outdated. Thank you.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/107.77.231.144|107.77.231.144]] ([[User talk:107.77.231.144#top|talk]]) 05:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:[[File:LeToya Luckett in Pink Dress.jpg|120px]] [[File:LeToya Luckett in White.jpg|120px]]
:We <s>have</s>had these three more recent pictures of her we could use instead. Or you could contribute a picture to [https://commons.wikimedia.org Wikimedia Commons], so long as it has a suitably unrestrictive copyright license. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 08:45, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

::<small>Is this a case of "check out #myhotwife", Tommicus? {{smilie|3}} For what it's worth I do think she's more attractive than [[Beyoncé|Bouncy]]. It's a shame that by drawing attention to these copyright-infringing images you've caused them to be listed for deletion. <b style="font:1.3em/1em Trebuchet MS;letter-spacing:-0.07em">[[User:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#000">nagual</b>]][[User talk:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#ABAB9D">design</b>]]</b> 02:06, 18 January 2018 (UTC)</small>

==Draft:Hayden Groves==
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hayden_Groves I created and uploaded my first piece, how long does it normally take to be accepted ? [[User:CobraTrump01|CobraTrump01]] ([[User talk:CobraTrump01|talk]]) 13:16, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

: You haven't yet submitted the draft for review. When you are ready to do so, add <code><nowiki>{{subst:submit}}</nowiki></code> to the top of the draft. You may be among the many editors confused by WMF changing the button labelled "Save changes" to "Publish changes". It doesn't "publish" the page to anywhere but an updated version of the draft, and the software change wasn't accompanied by updates to many of the help pages & instructions which still referred to "Save". You may also find it useful to read the guidance at [[WP:Your first article]]. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 13:24, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:Hey [[User:CobraTrump01|CobraTrump01]]. I have added the AfC banner, and you may submit it as David says above. I have also removed the image, because the version on commons did not include credible evidence of permission. This needs to be sent via email, following the instructions left for you on your commons talk page. [[User:GreenMeansGo|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color:#07CB4B">G</span><span style="color:#449351">M</span><span style="color:#35683d">G</span></span>]][[User talk:GreenMeansGo|<sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk</sup>]]  13:26, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

::thank you both, I have now done this can you please check that it is correct please [[User:GreenMeansGo|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color:#07CB4B">G</span><span style="color:#449351">M</span><span style="color:#35683d">G</span></span>]][[User talk:GreenMeansGo|<sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk</sup>]] ([[User talk:CobraTrump01|talk]]) 13:35, 17 January 2018 (UTC) [[User:CobraTrump01|CobraTrump01]] ([[User talk:CobraTrump01|talk]]) 13:41, 17 January 2018 (UTC) {{ping|GreenMeansGo}} [[User:CobraTrump01|CobraTrump01]] ([[User talk:CobraTrump01|talk]]) 13:49, 17 January 2018 (UTC),

:::[[User:CobraTrump01|CobraTrump01]], {{u|Eagleash}} and I made [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Hayden_Groves&diff=820939977&oldid=820934946 some changes] to your draft. See also the article history for the edit summaries, and please ask if there is anything you don't understand. [[User:Jimfbleak|<b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">Jimfbleak</b>]] - [[User talk:Jimfbleak|<span style="font-family:arial;color:green"><i>talk to me?</i></span>]] 14:10, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
==Rody Rijnders==
Sadly, [[Roderick Rijnders]] passed away, January 15th of 2018 (see [https://knrb.nl/2018/01/16/in-memoriam-rody-rijnders/ here]). I tried, but I'm struggling with the infobox. Could someone fix it? [[User:Vinvlugt|Vinvlugt]] ([[User talk:Vinvlugt|talk]]) 14:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

: {{done}} - Thanks for letting us know the sad news. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 14:35, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[User:Vinvlugt|Vinvlugt]] ([[User talk:Vinvlugt|talk]]) 15:40, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

== Talk:Killing of Cecil the lion ==

Does anyone know why [[Talk:Killing of Cecil the lion]] will not archive properly?  Please {{tl|ping}} me when you respond. --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 14:28, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

: {{ping|Jax 0677}} {{diff2|820943823|This change}} may help. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 14:39, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

:: Yes, that's done the trick. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 06:40, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

:{{yo|Jax 0677}} {{ec}} you're probably best off asking on the talk page for the bot. My guess is that it has to do with the code requesting to archive to a different page - the code wasn't updated when the page was moved from [[Talk:Cecil (lion)]] so the bot would be trying to update an archive which is now a redirect. Try updating the archive code and see if it starts working again in a few days. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] (<sup>[[User talk:Ivanvector|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ivanvector|Edits]]</sub>) 14:40, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

== Translate a Wikipedia side ==

Hi

I want to add a new langue to a Wikipedia site, but don't know how.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ThisUsernameIsTaken 123|ThisUsernameIsTaken 123]] ([[User talk:ThisUsernameIsTaken 123#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ThisUsernameIsTaken 123|contribs]]) 17:13, 17 January 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: Try [[m:Requests for new languages]]. --[[User:Ixfd64|Ixfd64]] ([[User talk:Ixfd64|talk]]) 18:23, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|ThisUsernameIsTaken 123}} Your request is unclear. If you want to add a link to an existing article in another language then see [[Help:Interlanguage links]]. If you want to translate an article to an existing Wikipedia language then see [[Wikipedia:Translation]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 18:31, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

== Bogus citation error in Ollagüe ==

Is there a way to fix the bogus citation error in [[Ollagüe]]? [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]], [[Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus|contributions]]) 17:35, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{Re|Jo-Jo Eumerus}} I think you've run into a long-standing bug in the software, [[phab:T22707]]. You can use {{tag|ref}} tags and {{tl|sfn}} notes inside {{tl|efn}} footnotes, but it all falls apart if you try to define the efn footnotes inside the {{tl|notelist}}. Try moving the efn note definitions up into the text where they are first used. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 17:39, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks, it works now. [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]], [[Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus|contributions]]) 17:43, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

== List of current United States governors by age ==

Can someone with chart know-how fix [[List of current United States governors by age]], there is a rank column that is carried over in the template that is not used, or actually even attached to the chart. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|talk]]) 19:13, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]], are you meaning you are wanting the rank column completely taken out from the article? or are you wanting it fixed so it is part of the table? <span style="background-color: black">[[User:NZ Footballs Conscience|<span style="color: white">NZFC</span>]]</span>[[User talk:NZ Footballs Conscience|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:25, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
::Yes remove, it is sortable, so no need for a rank, it looks like it was carried over in the template, none of the other related lists have a column for rank, I imagine because it will have to be reranked by hand whenever a new person is added to the list ... best to just sort. See [[List of current United States lieutenant governors by age]] --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|talk]]) 19:29, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:::{{Done}}. <span style="background-color: black">[[User:NZ Footballs Conscience|<span style="color: white">NZFC</span>]]</span>[[User talk:NZ Footballs Conscience|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:::: It was showing |} after each table, but I've got rid of those by deleting the {{tl|end}} templates which belonged with the static column. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 19:49, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

::: The static column is specifically designed for use with sortable tables, so that the reader can see the rank of each item as each sort option is chosen.  [[List of districts of Nagaland]] is an example with it working correctly. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 19:53, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

== Items missing from my Watchlist ==

{{Resolved}}
Why is it that my Watchlist is incomplete? For starters I have it set to show 5 days (and it says, "Below are the last '''200''' changes in the last '''120''' hours") but it only ever shows the last day or so. Today it only shows today's edits, and certain pages have an incomplete list of changes. For example, [[Talk:Frank Zappa discography]] shows only the last 6 edits, and the 2 edits that immediately preceded those were made in my absence, so it would be appropriate to display them too.

I assume this has something to do with the number of edits, since 200 is a round number. Is there any way to change this so that I can see all the edits made in the time period specified? <b style="font:1.3em/1em Trebuchet MS;letter-spacing:-0.07em">[[User:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#000">nagual</b>]][[User talk:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#ABAB9D">design</b>]]</b> 19:57, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

:Scratch that. I found the settings in my preferences and changed ''200'' → ''500''. <b style="font:1.3em/1em Trebuchet MS;letter-spacing:-0.07em">[[User:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#000">nagual</b>]][[User talk:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#ABAB9D">design</b>]]</b> 20:23, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

== File not in use! What to do with it? ==

Hi! I've been going through today requesting deletions of broken redirects and then started going through the dormant not in use Files like images etc. What do I do with these and what templates do you use to get it erased if its not connected to an article etc and have been like that for a very long time like a number of years. Could someone shed some light on this process an example file is at File:GoldStarChoates.jpg and there are countless listed as unused, in my view they should be removed if not in use to free up space etc. <span style="font-size:12pt;background:black;padding:1px 4px">[[User:CentralPython|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:white">Central&nbsp;·&nbsp;Python</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:CentralPython|<span style="color:white">&#9993;</span>]]</span>  21:21, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
:One misconception is that deleting frees up space.  Nothing is ever really deleted, it is just hidden from view of most editors.  If you really feel [[:File:GoldStarChoates.jpg]] and other files should be deleted you will need to open discussions using [[WP:FFD]].  [[:en:User talk:GB fan|~&nbsp;GB&nbsp;fan]] 21:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

:<small>(Edit conflict)</small> I wouldn't worry about files that aren't currently in use unless they're non-free. There's no need to concern yourself with saving server space, and the images may be useful to Wikipedia or other projects at some point in the future. It takes a lot of work to upload images and there's no good reason to undo that in most cases. ''[Edit]'' Plus what GB fan said. There's a note about this somewhere in the guidelines, though I can't recall the link. <b style="font:1.3em/1em Trebuchet MS;letter-spacing:-0.07em">[[User:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#000">nagual</b>]][[User talk:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#ABAB9D">design</b>]]</b> 21:30, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

:: So? What I'm doing is alright then? Like counter-vandalism, getting broken redirects fixed etc. I would like one day Rollback rights, New page rights etc. in the future. Feedback's appreciated.  <span style="font-size:12pt;background:black;padding:1px 4px">[[User:CentralPython|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:white">Central&nbsp;·&nbsp;Python</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:CentralPython|<span style="color:white">&#9993;</span>]]</span>  21:33, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

:::Requesting deletions of broken redirects is helpful, yes. Or better yet, fixing the redirects to point to the correct page, if appropriate. Requesting image deletion, not so much. <b style="font:1.3em/1em Trebuchet MS;letter-spacing:-0.07em">[[User:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#000">nagual</b>]][[User talk:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#ABAB9D">design</b>]]</b> 21:35, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

:::Two of the redirects you nominated for deletion had the correct target until two days ago. You should have checked the [[Help:Page history|page history]] and reverted to that target. The administrators should also have done that but they are sometimes busy and don't check everything. Both redirects had an incoming link which broke. I have restored [[New Garia Halt Railway Station]] and [[Draft:Forest disturbance of invasive pests in the United States]], and reverted them to the correct target. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:42, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

:::One more point, which should be obvious but it's perhaps worth pointing out: Making requests of any sort generally involves making work for someone else to do. If at all possible it's normally better to do something yourself. While identifying things that need doing is generally helpful, actually doing those things is more helpful. <b style="font:1.3em/1em Trebuchet MS;letter-spacing:-0.07em">[[User:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#000">nagual</b>]][[User talk:nagualdesign|<b style="color:#ABAB9D">design</b>]]</b> 23:27, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
::::Pages can only be deleted by administrators but if a user is just mechanically nominating everything on a list like [[Special:BrokenRedirects]] or [[User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects]] then it's not helpful. The pages should be individually examined. Administrators can already do that from the lists. If you arbitrarily nominate the pages for deletion then administrators may falsely assume you examined them and omit doing it themselves. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 23:47, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
*Those files should be flagged for migration to Wikimedia Commons where they can be grouped and categorized for people to find them that are looking for them. The tag is <nowiki>{{commons ok}}</nowiki> --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|talk]]) 23:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

{{reply to|CentralPython}} You asked for feedback so - please note that your large signature is very annoying. If you wish to go far in the world of Wikipedia, please consider changing it to something that does not disrupt the page layout; it makes it look like you're screaming <big><big>I'm more important!!!111eleven</big></big> [[Special:Contributions/86.20.193.222|86.20.193.222]] ([[User talk:86.20.193.222|talk]]) 17:36, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

::::'''Don't give a shit about the signature bit''', besides I found it from another user on Wikipedia this time an Administrator on the site who used exactly the same signature and yet he/she don't get bad comments about it. It'll stay as it is and the comment you've suggested I don't find constructive. Don't do it again! Regards <span style="font-size:12pt;background:black;padding:1px 4px">[[User:CentralPython|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:white">Central&nbsp;·&nbsp;Python</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:CentralPython|<span style="color:white">&#9993;</span>]]</span>  17:56, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
:::::Fair enough; it was merely constructive criticism. Many potential-admins have recieved negative feedback about obnoxious signatures in [[WP:RFA]] - I could dig up citations for that if necessary. But sure; be your own person. Best of luck, [[Special:Contributions/86.20.193.222|86.20.193.222]] ([[User talk:86.20.193.222|talk]]) 18:04, 18 January 2018 (UTC)