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== Devassa by Playboy ==

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'''Article(s):''' [[Devassa by Playboy]]
 
'''Request:'''
: Can someone extract the logo/bottle from [http://www.playboyenterprises.com/2013/07/playboy-launches-devassa-playboy-beer/ here] for the page? It is free to use if used to display the brand , so not probs there. Thanks -- [[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 15:25, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
::First, I'm not sure how it would be free, instead of fair use. Also, this should probably be requested at the [[Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop|photography workshop]]. <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 22:23, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 
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== São Tomé and Príncipe coat of arms ==
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'''Article(s):'''Various.

'''Request''':Vectorise this image please. 

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== Various coats of arms ==
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|{{GLNF|Friuli-Venezia Giulia-coat-of-arms.gif|[[Friuli-Venezia Giulia]] (Italy) coat of arms.}}
|{{GLNF|Patras Siegel.png|City of [[Patras]] (Greece) Seal}}
|{{GLNF|Athens seal.png|City of [[Athens]] (Greece) Seal}}
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'''Article(s):''' Various.
 
'''Request:'''
: None of these three images is in a svg format, and all are non-free files, making them difficult to use. -- [[User:Tyrionasaurus|Tyrionasaurus]] ([[User talk:Tyrionasaurus|talk]]) 02:36, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 
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==Saint Lucia - 1875-1939 flag==
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'''Article(s):''' [[List of British flags]], [[Flags of the British Empire]]
 
'''Request:'''
: Someone please try and create an SVG file of the colonial flag of Saint Lucia (1875-1939) found at [http://flags.wikia.com/wiki/Saint_Lucia?file=Saint_Lucia_1875.png flagswikia.com] - [[Special:Contributions/5.134.90.140 |5.134.90.140]] ([[User talk: 5.134.90.140 |talk]]) 13:08, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 
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==Colonial flags of Dominica==
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'''Article(s):''' [[List of British flags]], [[Flags of the British Empire]]
 
'''Request:'''
: Could someone please try and create SVG files of the colonial flags of dominica, both the one used from 1955-1965 (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/d/dm_55.gif -In case the coat of arms is to small to make out, a close up of it can be found at https://flagspot.net/images/d/dm)55.gif) and the one used from 1965-1978 (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/d/dm-col1.gif Again, if the coat of arms is too small, there is a close up of it at https://flagspot.net/misc/dm)65.gif).
 
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== Devassa by Playboy ==

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'''Article(s):''' [[Devassa by Playboy]]
 
'''Request:'''
: Can someone extract the logo/bottle from [http://www.playboyenterprises.com/2013/07/playboy-launches-devassa-playboy-beer/ here] for the page? It is free to use if used to display the brand , so not probs there. Thanks -- [[User:Lihaas|Lihaas]] ([[User talk:Lihaas|talk]]) 15:25, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
::First, I'm not sure how it would be free, instead of fair use. Also, this should probably be requested at the [[Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop|photography workshop]]. <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 22:23, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 
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== [[List of currencies in North America]] map ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[List of currencies in North America]]
 
'''Request:'''
: Hi, I need an image for the page; I am not certain what would work, so please feel free to tell me. But at the minute, I am thinking perhaps a map of countries currencies (with the most used currencies, the USD and Caribbean one). Thanks, [[User:Matty.007|<span style="color: #F00;">Mat</span>]][[User talk:Matty.007|<span style="color: #010132;">ty</span>]]<span style="color: #800080">.</span>[[Special:Contributions/Matty.007|<span style="color: #039685">007</span>]] 18:07, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 
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: There are 23 countries and 18 currencies, with most of the duplicates being East Caribbean Dollar.  The table makes this quite clear, and I don't think there is a ''need'' for an image before this could be understood. [[User:Jkwchui|Jon C]] ([[User talk:Jkwchui|talk]]) 16:15, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
::Thank for the reply {{U|Jkwchui}}, when I took it to FL (which failed), one of the issues was the picture. Thanks, [[User:Matty.007|<span style="color: #F00;">Mat</span>]][[User talk:Matty.007|<span style="color: #010132;">ty</span>]]<span style="color: #800080">.</span>[[Special:Contributions/Matty.007|<span style="color: #039685">007</span>]] 18:26, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
:::That probably has to do with the fact that the article is about North American currencies and the map is of the U.S. dollar. However, I agree with Jkwchui in that the image you described is probably not the right one either. I personally feel that the article would be better either without a picture, or a collage of North American currencies. Images should add to the article. The current one would be good in a U.S. dollar article and the one described would be too much information in one image when it would be better served by the table that is already there.<span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 05:28, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
::::OK, thanks. picture removed and I will have a think about which currencies to add. Thanks, [[User:Matty.007|<span style="color: #F00;">Mat</span>]][[User talk:Matty.007|<span style="color: #010132;">ty</span>]]<span style="color: #800080">.</span>[[Special:Contributions/Matty.007|<span style="color: #039685">007</span>]] 18:45, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
== Mitford ==


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'''Article(s):''' [[Nancy Mitford]]
 
'''Request:'''
: Please create a vectorised version.  Thanks! -- <span style="font-variant: small-caps"><span style="font-family:Baskerville">[[User:P. S. Burton|P. S. Burton]]  ([[User talk:P. S. Burton|talk]])</span></span> 23:22, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
:{{I take|&nbsp;&nbsp;--<strong>[[user:V4711|<span style="color:#008080;">Victor</span>]]<small>•[[user talk:V4711|<span style="color:#AFA29F;">talk</span>]]</small></strong>  08:42, 18 January 2014 (UTC)}}
::{{Done}}&nbsp;&nbsp;--<strong>[[user:V4711|<span style="color:#008080;">Victor</span>]]<small>•[[user talk:V4711|<span style="color:#AFA29F;">talk</span>]]</small></strong>  13:54, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Thank you very much. Nice work. <span style="font-variant: small-caps"><span style="font-family:Baskerville">[[User:P. S. Burton|P. S. Burton]]  ([[User talk:P. S. Burton|talk]])</span></span> 23:27, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
::::Unfortunately the svg [[Talk:Nancy_Mitford#Poor_image|was met with much dissatisfaction]] at the talk page. I can see nothing wrong with it on my screen, but would you mind taking a second look and see if there is something wrong with it that needs to be fixed? The problem might be the thumbnail. Thanks. <span style="font-variant: small-caps"><span style="font-family:Baskerville">[[User:P. S. Burton|P. S. Burton]]  ([[User talk:P. S. Burton|talk]])</span></span> 01:32, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
::::: It's OK. Editors too often do not understand difference between raster and vector graphics, see my comments at  [[Talk:Nancy_Mitford]].&nbsp;&nbsp;--<strong>[[user:V4711|<span style="color:#008080;">Victor</span>]]<small>•[[user talk:V4711|<span style="color:#AFA29F;">talk</span>]]</small></strong>  19:51, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::: Besides the glaring ignorance that became evident on the talk page, you also have to blame yourself. Two points to improve the graphics (also at small sizes) and which will make everybody happy:
::::::* Use bold font as in the original.
::::::* Use real text inside SVG. Since you converted text to paths in Illustrator [[RSVG]]s [[hinting]] mechanisms for fonts can't work. Therefore text is not aligned to the pixel boundaries of the rendered PNG which results in blurry fonts.
::::::If [[User:V4711|you]] respect those the SVG is almost certainly superior at all sizes. --[[User:Patrick87|Patrick87]] ([[User talk:Patrick87|talk]]) 22:34, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Disagree:
:::::::*Regular (roman) font used in the original, not bold.
:::::::*Have to outline text — characters shifted and crushes because of n-dashes, text in crowded boxes (e.g. Algernon Bertram) stretches outside right boundaries, especially at 1000px, 2000px, and above. Tried few different fonts, same problems, so finished with  outlining.&nbsp;&nbsp;--<strong>[[user:V4711|<span style="color:#008080;">Victor</span>]]<small>•[[user talk:V4711|<span style="color:#AFA29F;">talk</span>]]</small></strong>  23:18, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::::If you don't want my help and are unwilling to improve the graphics I can't help you... But then I also can't mind those guys on the talk page to stick to the old and ugly JPG version instead of replacing it with your (basically very nice) SVG version. Fact is:
:::::::*The font in the JPG is bolder than the font you used. This improves readability at small sizes and is probably the most evident difference which potentially led to the file replacement to be reverted.
:::::::*Font hinting is one important feature and a great advantage of SVGs over raster graphics. It ''will'' make the text much more readable. If you choose a font available on WMF-Wikis (see [[meta:SVG fonts|SVG fonts]]), correctly center-align all the text elements and take into account some additional space in the surrounding boxes (since hinting slightly increases the letter-spacing of text) you will be fine and the text should look good in most applications.
:::::::Those are my tips and I know they work. So take it or leave it, I don't mind. In the end it's your graphics and it's your time that will be wasted if you don't improve it so it will be included in the article. --[[User:Patrick87|Patrick87]] ([[User talk:Patrick87|talk]]) 00:04, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
: I have never understood how Illustrator SVG interact with the Wikimedia SVG rendering engine, but I do know that setting font as ''Liberation Sans'' (one of the SVG fonts supposingly available) never works out the way I'd like it to.  The various interactions between thumbnail / full / various versions is also never clear to me.  
: To make life less mystifying, I've just created a page for testing SVGs [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jkwchui/svg-test here].  I'm not sure what is the take-home message here except that text-rendering doesn't play well (at all)... tons of artifacts (e.g., compare the kerning between the regular font left,right,center aligns)  If any of you have suggestions to expanding/revising the conditions of the test, I will be happy to oblige.  [[User:Jkwchui|Jon C]] ([[User talk:Jkwchui|talk]]) 04:09, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
::I wrote an answer [[User:Jkwchui|Jon C]]. Let's continue at [[Wikipedia_talk:Graphics_Lab/Illustration_workshop#Text_rendering_of_Adobe_Illustrator_SVGs_on_Wikipedia|on the talk page]]. --[[User:Patrick87|Patrick87]] ([[User talk:Patrick87|talk]]) 20:40, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
== Request To Make These Logos Scalable ==
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=== WPME (2013) ===
'''Article(s):''' [[WPME]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WPME-Logo-2013.png this logo] Scalable?
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=== WPME (2007) ===

'''Article(s):''' [[WPME]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WPME_former_logo_(2007-2009).png this logo] Scalable? I see a tag on the info page requesting that somebody make this logo Scalable.
::I'm not sure whether [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WPME_former_logo_(2007-2009).png this logo] can be made to be Scalable, for although the white background could be manually removed so that the image could have Transparent Background, the "''my''" (which is also White) would need to NOT be Transparent; therefore, a mere one-step background color replace (replacing all White Background with Transparent Background) would probably not work on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WPME_former_logo_(2007-2009).png this image].
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 15:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=== WPXT ===

'''Article(s):''' [[WPXT]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WPXT_logo.png this logo] Scalable?
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=== WABI-TV ===

'''Article(s):''' [[WABI-TV]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WABI-TV_former_logo.png this logo] Scalable?
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=== WABI-DT2 ===

'''Article(s):''' [[WABI-TV]] & [[WABI-DT2]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2007_wabi_dt2.png this logo] Scalable with Transparent Background?
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=== WFVX ===

'''Article(s):''' [[WFVX-LD]] & [[WVII-TV]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wfvx_2008.png this logo] Scalable with Transparent Background?
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of he organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=== WCVB-TV ===

'''Article(s):''' [[WCVB-TV]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WCVB-TV_Logo.png this logo] Scalable? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WMUR.svg The logo for sister station], [[WMUR-TV]] is already Scalable.
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 03:30, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=== WHDH ===

'''Article(s):''' [[WHDH (TV)]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WHDH_Logo.png this logo] Scalable?
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=== WSBK-TV ===

'''Article(s):''' [[WSBK-TV]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WSBK-TV_logo.png this logo] Scalable?
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=== WBKB-TV ===

'''Article(s):''' [[WBKB-TV]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wbkb_2009.png this logo] Scalable?
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=== WBKB-DT2 ===

'''Article(s):''' [[WBKB-TV]] & [[WBKB-DT2]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wbkb_dt2.png this logo] Scalable?
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=== WBKB-ABC ===

'''Article(s):''' [[WBKB-TV]] & [[WBKB-DT3]]

'''Request'''
:Can anyone make [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wbkb_abc.png this logo] Scalable?
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 20:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
:'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Probable best to leave as is - Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, and the resolution is sufficient to maintain the quality of the organization - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 21:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

=Resolved=
== Clean out Vectorize alphabet category ==
{{Resolved|<span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 07:08, 2 March 2014 (UTC)}}
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File:Middle English thou.svg|SVG
File:ME the.png
File:Middle English the.svg|SVG
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Alphabet_images_that_should_be_in_SVG_format

'''Article(s):''' [[Thorn (letter)]] and friends, [[Pitman shorthand]]
 
'''Request:'''
: Vectorize 'em all!  Let's clean out this aging category.  The funny-looking "p" letter is actually the [[Thorn (letter)]]
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
::Thanks!  Good progress. [[User:Sn1per|''Sn'']]<b>[[Special:Contribs/Sn1per|''1'']]</b>[[User:Sn1per|''pe'']]<b>[[User talk:Sn1per|''!'']]</b> 00:34, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
::It's ok if you can't finish in time, leave your work here so someone else will know what to finish up on. [[User:Sn1per|''Sn1pe!'']] <sup>[[User talk:Sn1per|(talk)]][[Special:Contributions/Sn1per|(edits)]]</sup> 17:41, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
::Almost done, just a simple table left! [[User:Sn1per|''Sn1pe!'']] <sup>[[User talk:Sn1per|(talk)]][[Special:Contributions/Sn1per|(edits)]]</sup> 18:14, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
{{Done}}: <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 20:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

==7th Century Snow Lion Standard==
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[[File:Tibetan snow leopard.svg|thumb|7th century snow lion standard of the Tibetan Emperor, Songtsen Gampo.]]
 
'''Article(s):''' [[Flag of Tibet]]
 
'''Request:'''
: Could someone please try and create an SVG image of the 7th century snow lion standard of the Tibetan Emperor, Songtsen Gampo, found at http://tibetanblogstation.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/jn4.png  
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' {{done}} [[User:Jkwchui|Jon C]] ([[User talk:Jkwchui|talk]]) 15:05, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
: The original is of poor resolution, and the flag had folds in addition to the lines.  I did my best in interpreting the shading.

== Request to vectorize ==
{{Resolved|<span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 07:15, 2 March 2014 (UTC)}}

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'''Request:'''
: Am preparing a GA nomination for [[Recurrent laryngeal nerve]] and as {{u|Lesion}} has pointed out [[Wikipedia:Peer_review/Recurrent_laryngeal_nerve/archive1|in the peer review]], the main image is pretty crumby. I was wondering if any kind folks here would be able to vectorise the main image [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Laryngeal_nerve.jpg]?--[[User:LT910001|LT910001]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) 03:45, 27 January 2014 (UTC)


'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
: {{I take|[[User:Jkwchui|Jon C]] ([[User talk:Jkwchui|talk]])}} ''desiderata'' beyond a basic vectorization? [[User:Jkwchui|Jon C]] ([[User talk:Jkwchui|talk]]) 15:10, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
:: {{Done}} [[User:Jkwchui|Jon C]] ([[User talk:Jkwchui|talk]]) 14:25, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
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* '''Comment''': Looks v nice. One thing I noted is the coloring, which is good, but I am not sure if the purple coloring should extend all the way to where the nerve branches from the main trunk of  the vagus. Advise await LT910001's opinion on this. [[User:Lesion|<span style="color:maroon;">'''Lesion'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Lesion|<span style="color:maroon;">''talk''</span>]]) 14:38, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
* Looks fantastic, am exceedingly pleased with this image. If possible, would you be able to show the vagus nerve continuing, as seen in the original image, rather than terminating? I feel this may confuse some readers. Other than that, would like to say that this image is very pleasing to the eye! [[User:LT910001|LT910001]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) 13:39, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
* Glad the picture is well-accepted.  I have made the changes as advised by both of you: coloring the recurrent nerve behind aortic arch with a tint of purple, and extending the vagus nerve downwards (clearly no anatomist here!)  You may need to refresh your browser to see the changes.  [[User:Jkwchui|Jon C]] ([[User talk:Jkwchui|talk]]) 03:21, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
* Great, I'm very happy with the final product. If needed, any chance we'd be able to ping you in the future, {{u|Jkwchui}}? [[User:LT910001|LT910001]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) 04:09, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
* I'll try to help, but work during the academic year is all-consuming, and I tend to only have bursts of activity here over holidays.  (Lunar New Year here.)  Seeing you are happy with the figure, I've marked this one off as resolved.  [[User:Jkwchui|Jon C]] ([[User talk:Jkwchui|talk]]) 04:22, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
::{{ping|Jkwchui}}Apologies, the diagram is still misleading with its colors. It suggests that the L recurrent laryngeal n begins as it passes underneath the aortic arch, which does not correspond to the description in the article. To clarify, the purple color should extend all the way to where the nerve branches from the vagus main trunk. Sorry to be difficult. [[User:Lesion|<span style="color:maroon;">'''Lesion'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Lesion|<span style="color:maroon;">''talk''</span>]]) 08:58, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Lesion}}  Not difficult at all - thank you for trying to get it right.  I've made the fixes as requested.  [[User:Jkwchui|Jon C]] ([[User talk:Jkwchui|talk]]) 05:01, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Yes I believe that is now correct, thank you. I am sure LT will correct this decision if it is wrong, but as far as I can see it now matches the description of the nerve in the article. Thank you again, [[User:Lesion|<span style="color:maroon;">'''Lesion'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Lesion|<span style="color:maroon;">''talk''</span>]]) 10:54, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::No further comments, picture looks excellent, thanks for your astute observation Lesion, and again to Jkwchui. --[[User:LT910001|LT910001]] ([[User talk:LT910001|talk]]) 03:43, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

== AllTrials Logo ==
{{resolved|1=<span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 22:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)}}

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File:Alltrials_logo.png
File:All_Trials_logo.svg
</gallery>
 
'''Article(s):''' [[AllTrials]]
 
'''Request:'''
Vectorize please.

This is the logo of a non-profit science advocacy group. I know logos are often dubious vectorization territory, but I've been given permission to make this request by the organisation (quoted below), and any decent SVG version will likely be used by them. 

On (lack of) copyright issues -- the page of this image lists it as public domain. As the logo of an organisation, used in an article about them, it is fair use. The organization website says "Feel free to use the content on our site for non-commercial purposes (Copyright CC BY-NC-ND 3.0)". Finally, the organization says:

"We don't have an SVG version of the logo - feel free to ask the Wikipedians
to make one"
- Chris Peters

-- [[User:HLHJ|HLHJ]] ([[User talk:HLHJ|talk]]) 21:05, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
: Images released under non-commercial licenses are [[WP:NONCOM|considered non-free]] on WP and Commons. AFAIK, for such images to be uploaded to Commons/WP as "free" files, you should convince the copyright holder to release them under an accepted license. I don't know whether this particular file would reasonably be [[WP:TOO|copyright-ineligible]] for consisting of simple shapes and text. [[User:SiBr4|SiBr<sub>4</sub>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|talk]]) 21:34, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

: Fair enough. I'll e-mail them again and ask. I didn't tag it as copyright-ineligible -- I'm no expert -- so thank you for alerting me. I just had a look around, and a lot of logos/trademarks on WM seem to be tagged like that. What license do you think would be appropriate? Am I right to assume that it's OK to go ahead with using and vectorizing it even if it isn't free, under fair use? [[User:HLHJ|HLHJ]] ([[User talk:HLHJ|talk]]) 22:53, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

::I wouldn't bother emailing them about that as they'll probably just reply that everything on their site is "CC BY-NC-ND 3.0". That logo is made up of 2 simple geometric shapes and simple text, and therefore almost guaranteed to be ineligible for copyright in the United States. More complicated logos are not eligible for copyright (see the copyright examples page). However, I changed the license template from {{tl|PD-text}} to {{tl|PD-textlogo}}. <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 00:30, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

{{Done}}: <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 00:46, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

::Thank you very much! It looks very smart. I did e-mail them, and although your second version looks more like the original, they actually prefer your first SVG version, because it's clearer to read; I think perceptual difference in the text aspect ratio might also be an influence. Would you mind terribly having the old one as the current version?[[User:HLHJ|HLHJ]] ([[User talk:HLHJ|talk]]) 21:04, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

:::Reverted. <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 22:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

==Narendra Modi==
{{resolved|1=<span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 15:01, 13 February 2014 (UTC)}}
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File:Signature of Narendra Modi (Hindi).svg|New file
</gallery>

[http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.narendramodi.in/wp-content/themes/NModi/images/xlogo.png.pagespeed.ic.eu8JSxAiyz.webp .png of signature]

'''Article(s):''' [[Narendra Modi]]
 
'''Request:'''
: Please correct the vectorisation of the signature -- [[User:RaviC|RaviC]] ([[User talk:RaviC|talk]]) 18:36, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
:{{Done}}: As this SVG was based on a specific image (namely the one found at [http://www.indianautographs.com/productdetail-118251.html Indian Autographs], I re-vectorized it based on that image. It's more or less standard that if you are going to use a different source autograph, you should create a new file and not overwrite the old one. <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 22:28, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

== Association of Scouts of Azerbaijan ==

{{resolved|1=[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 04:37, 15 February 2014 (UTC)}}

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|{{GLNF|Association of Scouts of Azerbaijan.png|raster}}
|{{GLNF|Association of Scouts of Azerbaijan.svg|vectored}}
|}
 
'''Article(s):''' [[Association of Scouts of Azerbaijan]]
 
'''Request:'''
: left petal paler blue to match flag/org website, svg if can... -- [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 03:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''

:{{I take|[[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 04:03, 15 February 2014 (UTC)}}:

::{{Done}} - colors based on the [[:File:Flag of Azerbaijan.svg|Azerbaijan flag]] - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 04:31, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:Fantastic, thank you, and man was that fast!--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 04:37, 15 February 2014 (UTC)


== Confederate States of America ==
{{resolved|1=[[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 17:03, 20 February 2014 (UTC)}}

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File:Confederate States of America Colonel-Infantry.jpg|raster
File:Confederate States of America Colonel-Infantry.svg|vectored
File:Confederate States of America Corporal-Infantry.jpg|raster
File:Confederate States of America Corporal-Infantry.svg|vectored
File:Confederate States of America First Lieutenant-Artillery.svg|raster
File:Confederate States of America First Lieutenant-Artillery.svg|vectored
File:Confederate States of America First Sergeant-Infantry.jpg|raster
File:Confederate States of America First Sergeant-Infantry.svg|vectored
File:Confederate States of America General.jpg|raster
File:Confederate States of America General-Staff Officer.svg|vectored
File:Confederate States of America Lieutenant Colonel-Staff Officer.jpg|raster
File:Confederate States of America Lieutenant Colonel-Staff Officer.svg|vectored
File:Confederate States of America Major-Medical.jpg|raster
File:Confederate States of America Major-Medical.svg|vectored 
File:Confederate States of America Quartermaster Sergeant-Infantry.jpg|raster
File:Confederate States of America Quartermaster Sergeant-Infantry.svg|vectored
File:Confederate States of America Second Lieutenant-Cavalry.svg|raster
File:Confederate States of America Second Lieutenant-Cavalry.svg|vectored
File:Confederate States of America Sergeant Major-Infantry small.jpg|raster
File:Confederate States of America Sergeant Major-Infantry.svg|vectored
File:Confederate States of America Sergeant-Infantry.jpg|raster
File:Confederate States of America Sergeant-Infantry.svg|vectored
File:Confederate States of America Captain-Marines.svg|raster
File:Confederate States of America Captain-Marines.svg|vectored
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'''Article(s):''' [[Confederate States of America]]
 
'''Request:'''
: whole set has been nominated for deletion, on use across multiple wikis. best way to avoid this is to create new png or svg versions, ''no'' text, ''no'' grey background, just focus on insignia. badges themselves are PD. note the blue should not be the peacock blue shown here, but a subdued blue like [[:File:Confederate States of America Sergeant Major-Infantry.jpg]]-- [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 03:39, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):''' Ok I'll see what I can do 

:{{I take|[[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 04:45, 17 February 2014 (UTC)}}
::That blue is perfect, thank you! Carry on! :) --[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 09:03, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
:::{{ping|FOX 52}}Good job so far! I think, to make life easier, the information and licenses can be corrected as you upload the SVGs. First, the license is some form of PD. The original designs are definitely public domain by now and the derivative works do not meet the threshold for copyright, so they remain PD. The old images also have incorrect licenses, but you can at least have yours be correct (I've done the ones you uploaded so far). I also deleted the old Permission that was written in some as it was incorrect. Lastly, I added the {{tl|Derived from}} template to signify that they were derived from other images already on Commons.

:::{{ping|Kintetsubuffalo}} I noticed a strange deletion request on one file... something about OTRS. However, the images are derivatives of public domain designs and they definitely do not meet the threshold of originality. OTRS permission is not needed for these. The files should have either a template or text stating that they are derivative of what was found at the source listed. The current text is misleading. Also, they need the correct license, I suggest using {{tl|PD-ineligible}} as the template explains it plainly. <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 05:26, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

::::Don't worry about editing the old ones. I ended up just doing them quickly. <span style="text-shadow:#808080 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em" class="texhtml">[[User:Hazmat2|The Haz]] <sub>[[User talk:Hazmat2|<span style="color:black;">talk</span>]]</sub></span> 05:42, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::Ok Thanks - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 17:56, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::Beautiful and fast! Sorry I crashed quick last night. Labeled one quick fix.--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 17:29, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Cool Thanks - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 22:16, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
:{{Done}} - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 08:29, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


== Request To Convert  Into A [[Portable Network Graphics|PNG]] Image File ==
{{Resolved}}

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: I'd like to place a request that [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/this image] get converted into a [[Portable Network Graphics|PNG]] Image file to the [[WNYQ#History|WNYQ]] article. It would really mean a lot to me if [https://web.archive.org/web/20001011204316im_/http://www.wink105.com/images/wenulogo.gif this image] could be uploaded to the [[WNYQ#History|WNYQ]] article as a [[Portable Network Graphics|PNG]] Image file to appear at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WENU_(1983-2006)_logo.png this link]. Please, forgive me for not following the procedure or formatting perfectly. This is the very first request I've ever placed to '''Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop'''.
::Current Format = [[Graphics Interchange Format|GIF]] | Desired Format = [[Portable Network Graphics|PNG]]
[[Special:Contributions/50.138.170.28|50.138.170.28]] ([[User talk:50.138.170.28|talk]]) 14:00, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
:If your request is just to replace the GIF file in the [[WNYQ]] article with the PNG file you linked to, that [[Special:Diff/596313782|was done by Armbrust]] today. [[User:SiBr4|SiBr<sub>4</sub>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|talk]]) 12:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

== British Central Africa ==

{{resolved|1=[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 10:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)}}

<gallery>
File:Coat of arms of British Central Africa.svg
</gallery>
 
'''Article(s):''' [[British Central Africa]]
 
'''Request:'''
: clean up bottom scroll... -- [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 11:25, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
:
{{I take|[[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 17:10, 20 February 2014 (UTC)}}: 
::{{Done}} - only fixed the ribbon, left text untouched - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 17:29, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:Please touch the text-it's crude and mis-centered.--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 10:07, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
::Beautiful! Danke schon! (as they say in British Central Africa)--[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Kintetsubuffalo]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 10:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)


=="Burgers" Flag of the South African Republic==
{{resolved|1=[[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 17:39, 26 February 2014 (UTC)}}
<gallery>
File:South African Burgers Flag.svg|SVG
</gallery>
 
'''Article(s):''' [[List of South African flags]]
 
'''Request:'''
: Could someone please create an SVG file of the "Burgers" Flag used for the [[South African Republic]] from 1874-1875 found at https://flagspot.net/images/z/za-burgr.gif. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/5.134.90.140|5.134.90.140]] ([[User talk:5.134.90.140|talk]]) 19:33, 21 February 2014</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP -->
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
:{{I take|[[User:SiBr4|SiBr<sub>4</sub>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|talk]]) 19:52, 21 February 2014 (UTC)}}
:{{Done}}. Not a very difficult request; pretty much guessing at the width of the saltire. [[User:SiBr4|SiBr<sub>4</sub>]] ([[User talk:SiBr4|talk]]) 20:08, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

== Update map for Forced Labour Convention treaty ==


{{resolved|1=[[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 03:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)}}

<gallery>
File:Forced Labour Convention.png|Original PNG map with incorrect information
File:Forced Labour Convention map.svg| SVG with changes to Canada 
</gallery>
 
'''Article(s):''' [[Forced Labour Convention]], [[International Labour Organization]]
 
'''Request:'''
: First, convert to SVG. Second, change Canada from red to green (Canada ratified the treaty on 13 June 2011). -- [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 02:07, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''

:{{I take|[[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 02:54, 26 February 2014 (UTC)}}: 
::{{Done}} - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 03:25, 26 February 2014 (UTC)


== Historical coat of arms of Greece ==


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'''Request:'''
: The coat of arms of Greece during the Wittelsbach Dynasty needs a few fixes. The black border on the white cross in the shield needs to be removed, and also the length of the arms of white cross should equal and they don't quite appear to be. Furthermore, the flag of [[:File:Flag of Bavaria (lozengy).svg|Bavaria]] should be in the shape of a shield, like the 3 Lions of Denmark are on [[:File:Arms of a Prince of Greece.svg|this coat of arms]]. '''[[User:Fry1989|<span style="color:#003384;">Fry1989</span>]]''' <sup>'''[[User talk:Fry1989|<span style="color:#cc111a;">eh?</span>]]'''</sup> 22:45, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 
'''Graphist opinion(s):'''
:
{{I take|[[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 00:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)}}:
:{{Done}} - hopefully that will do [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 01:19, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::It's an improvement, but the edges of the cross should be straight and not rounded, and the Bavarian flag [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inescutcheon#Inescutcheon inescutcheon] still needs to be shield shaped. '''[[User:Fry1989|<span style="color:#003384;">Fry1989</span>]]''' <sup>'''[[User talk:Fry1989|<span style="color:#cc111a;">eh?</span>]]'''</sup> 01:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Not sure what you seeing with rounded edges, from my end they're straight - have replaced the shield again. On a side note I used [[:File:Arms of a Prince of Greece.svg|this]] shield first as you suggested, it has been replaced with one from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inescutcheon#Inescutcheon here] - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 03:01, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::::The old shield shape was fine, what I meant was the little flag of Bavaria in the middle of the white cross is supposed to be shield shaped, right now it is a square. It's supposed to be in a little shield on top, just like the [[:File:Arms of a Prince of Greece.svg|three lions on this file]], or like this [http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/g/gr~1858.gif flag] but without the crown. '''[[User:Fry1989|<span style="color:#003384;">Fry1989</span>]]''' <sup>'''[[User talk:Fry1989|<span style="color:#cc111a;">eh?</span>]]'''</sup> 04:11, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::Ok try this - [[User:FOX 52|FOX 52]] ([[User talk:FOX 52|talk]]) 06:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::That's great, thank you. '''[[User:Fry1989|<span style="color:#003384;">Fry1989</span>]]''' <sup>'''[[User talk:Fry1989|<span style="color:#cc111a;">eh?</span>]]'''</sup> 19:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)