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== unblock 2 ==

{{unblock reviewed|accept={{noping2|ToadetteEdit}} is [[WP:CONDUNBLOCK|conditionally unblocked]] subject to the following:

# An indefinite topic ban from Wikipedia: and Wikipedia talk: spaces, [[WP:BROADLY|broadly construed]], with the following exceptions, which are to be narrowly construed:
#* The [[WP:BANEX|standard exceptions to bans]].
#* [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation]], solely for the purpose of asking for advice about accepting, declining, or rejecting a draft submitted through the AFC process.
#* [[WP:XFD|Deletion discussions]] or [[WP:DRV|deletion reviews]].
#* Requesting administrator attention at venues such as [[WP:AIV]], [[WP:ANI]], and [[WP:UAA]].
#* Participating in, but not starting, a discussion where they are <em>directly</em> involved in a <em>discrete</em> and <em>preexisting</em> dispute (e.g., an editing conflict that is brought to [[WP:RSN]]), or are a named party to a dispute (e.g., at [[WP:DRN]]).
# An indefinite topic ban from requesting additional permissions, broadly construed, regardless of namespace.
For the avoidance of doubt, this conditional unblock does not affect ToadetteEdit's [[Wikipedia:Editing restrictions#ToadetteEdit|current topic ban]] from closing discussions (in any namespace).

These topic bans may be loosened, such as by broadening the exceptions, or repealed entirely, by any uninvolved administrator or by community consensus at [[WP:AN]], after at least six months have passed. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 21:56, 21 February 2025 (UTC)|1=Per above, I would like to be unblocked from the projectspace since it is essentially not needed for the time being. I would like to work in some areas like [[wp:AFC/R]] which requires editing projectspace, as well as starting deletion discussions during npp patrolling. Thank you!}} [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 09:39, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
*'''Note''' from blocking Admin. If there's a solution that allows ToadetteEdit to start AfDs or work in AFC/R, I would not be opposed to that but I disagree with their contention that {{tq|since it is essentially not needed for the time being. }} given they only promised to "try" not to apply for advanced permissions and I think the meta areas of the project are too complex for them to effectively edit as we've seen throughout their history and a big part of why they are a time sink for the community. I have extant questions from their RFA about their goals in seeking the mop was to [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/ToadetteEdit#Questions_for_the_candidate|end run protection]] (Q4/10) but that was not a factor in this block. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 17:25, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
*:I am not familiar with what led to this project-space block.  So I don't know if this would be more trouble than it's worth.  But would it make sense to lift the block, but topic ban them from WP-space, with the exception of areas (maybe AFC/R, maybe creating and voting in AFDs without closing them, etc) that are specifically listed? And if they wanted to expand to other areas of WP-space, they would need to seek  the blocking admin's permission? Or if that is dumping too much work on SM, get any admin's permission?  They would be responsible for not editing anything in WP-space that was not explicitly excluded from the topic ban; if they violated the topic ban, they would be site blocked.  I'm not sure if this would satisfy SM, or TE, or both, or neither.  I'm not even 100% sure I like these customized topic bans.  But I thought it worth suggesting. [[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 18:09, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
*::I'd be fine with it being any admin (for whatever the review is) because my on wiki time is consistently inconsistent and I would not want to ever be a hold up. I think the challenge with custom topic bans and this specific editor is that they appear not to do well with gray areas. @[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] the background is when this editor receives tough (but valid, IMO) criticism on their quest for permissions they flounce. [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Optional_RfA_candidate_poll/Archive_17#ToadetteEdit:_January_28,_2025]],[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ToadetteEdit&curid=73775712&diff=1274500289&oldid=1274494624#c-Serial_Number_54129-20250130121500-ToadetteEdit-20250129162500 this time], [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/ToadetteEdit]], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/ToadetteEdit#c-ToadetteEdit-20240429183500-General_comments last time]. They appear unwilling to take on feedback and continue to dig deeper. @[[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]]' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Optional_RfA_candidate_poll/Archive_17#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20250128200400-ToadetteEdit-20250128173800 assessment] (courtesy ping, no action needed) assessment matches mine that it's in good faith, which is why I see this block as protecting TE from TE. They are unwilling/able to stop seeking additional permissions and to realize it's not going to happen. Given they have had blocks from AN and negative feedback on their AfD participation, I'm not sure which project spaces are a good fit for them. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 18:40, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
*:::Thanks for the background.  From my (admittedly brief) review of their contribs to AFD, it seems like they do OK with nominating articles, which they did as part of their NPP; it was attempting to NAC close them that caused problems.  Is there more to it I didn't see? 
*:::I'm interested in hearing what project-space areas they're interested in - areas with a very, very low likelihood of disruption. I'm also interested in hearing whether they agree that, in retrospect, all of these requests for permission were disruptive. And, of course, I'd like to hear if they would even agree to a topic ban from everything in WP-space that is not expressly allowed as an unblock condition.
*:::It seems to me like they can probably handle a "you are not allowed to do '''anything''' in WP-space beyond the following specific things". If it is true that, without an active block, they won't be able to stop themselves from requesting a permission, or closing an AFD, or anything else not on the approved list, then that's a pretty quick site-wide indef block. [[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 19:05, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
*::::Makes sense to me @[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] and like you, look forward to TE's feedback.
*::::My recollection the AfDs was part of the broader clerking, but I'd have to dig for specifics. I'll try to do that this weekend. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 19:33, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

:It has been two days since the last comment; will anybody respond to my request? I do wonder if this unblock request is being held up due to a discussion or so.... [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 20:46, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
{{od|:::::}}How about something like this? I am INVOLVED, so this is not a formal offer of a CONDUNBLOCK; merely a suggestion to SM/Floq/any other admins who happen to stop by:
{{ivmbox|1=ToadetteEdit is indefinitely topic banned from Wikipedia: space, with the following exceptions:
* The [[WP:BANEX|standard exceptions to bans]]
* They may make any edits related to the [[WP:AFC|articles for creation process]]
* They may participate in [[WP:XFD|deletion discussions]]
* They may request administrator attention to an issue at venues such as [[WP:AIV]], [[WP:ANI]], and [[WP:UAA]]. They may <strong>not</strong> participate in reports filed by another editor, unless ToadetteEdit is themselves a party to the dispute.
Additionally, ToadetteEdit is topic banned from requesting additional permissions, regardless of namespace.

For the avoidance of doubt, this topic ban does not affect their [[Wikipedia:Editing restrictions#ToadetteEdit|current topic ban]] from closing discussions (in any namespace). 

This ban may be loosened, either by broadening the exceptions or repealed entirely, by any uninvolved administrator or by community consensus at [[WP:AN]].
}}
ToadetteEdit, are there any other activities you would like to participate in? I don't love how complicated this restriction is, but I really think ToadetteEdit has something to offer. Best, <b>[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;he/they) 20:31, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
:I am uninvolved and would be willing to offer the above conditional unblock or a substantially similar one. The ban should also probably extend to Wikipedia talk. The first bullet is unnecessary because those exceptions apply unless otherwise stated. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 05:14, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
::I explicitly listed BANEX because we were listing exceptions, but I understand we could have them be implicit. Best, <b>[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;he/they) 06:58, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
:Hi there. Sorry for the late response; I have been lately busy for multiple reasons, and so I do not have time to share my thoughts and comments. I will attempt to use the projectspace to clerk the AfC subpages, RM/TR, contesting several requests, and initiating and participating in deletion discussion. I will also refrain from participating in noticeboards, though I will continue participating in community proposals and RfAs. I am willing to abide with the conditional unblock if given. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 11:06, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
::Neither voting in RFAs nor community proposals is allowed under this conditional unblock as written @[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]]. May I recommend slowing down a little on this? [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 13:21, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
:::Nor is RM/TR in the listed exceptions, but I would suggest (again, in my capacity as an interested editor, not wearing my admin hat) that at least <em>making</em> RM/TR requests (as opposed to responding to them) is a reasonable additional exception. <b>[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|<span style="color:#7D066B;">Blaster</span>]]</b>&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;he/they) 21:36, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
:::I'm open to modifying the list of exceptions. TE, what parts of projectspace do you want to include as exceptions? [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 21:42, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
::::I am open to them as well @[[User:HouseBlaster|HouseBlaster]] @[[User:Voorts|Voorts]], but "I'm going to do things you haven't said I can do because I want to" is part of the broader problem with this editor following advice and feedback, which is why I recommend slowing down before rushing into this unblock. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 23:41, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::I'm not trying to rush into an unblock. I said I was open to doing one, not that I necessarily will. Once we hammer out the scope of the proposed topic ban, I want to make sure that TE understands why the wider topic ban on projectspace is appropriate and explains how they will avoid a recurrence of the conduct that got them blocked. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 23:49, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
::::::Sorry to be clear @[[User:Voorts|Voorts]], I mean TE rushing into it without understanding the big picture and ending up right back here (again). [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 01:10, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
::::I will simply abide by the proposed topic ban, so no participation in community proposals and RfA, and RM/TR clerking. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 06:41, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]]: There's been no backroom discussion going on. What parts of projectspace do you want to participate in and why? I think the exceptions should be as narrow as possible. I would also like you to explain how you intend to avoid causing further issues in projectspace. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 21:19, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
::::::I have been thinking about this in the last few days and have come to a conclusion;
::::::*I should be able to contribute to AfC, where editing projectspace is needed, as well as starting deletion discussions and participating in them.
::::::*I will also refrain from requesting any more permissions across the Wikimedia network as it is indeed not helpful for the community and causes stress to myself.
::::::*In any case, I was forwarded to a noticeboard or am involved in any situation, I will need to edit the projectspace. This means that I can edit noticeboards only if I am involved in any way, whether directly or indirectly. I will also not be commenting on other threads, nor will I close them, so that I could avoid being condemned by the community.
::::::*I will continue to request administrator attention, but not clerk or comment on others.
::::::Hopefully, abiding by these decisions, I will not have disrupted the community and not cause stress to myself due to the reactions. I will heed all the feedback that was given to me and learn from them. If I have a desire to expand to more areas in projectspace, I will request loosening or abolishing the conditional unblock. I understand that if I violate the CONDUNBLOCK, I will be sanctioned. Thank you! [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 11:02, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you. I'm going to give other editors here time to respond. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 16:44, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::::This generally seems fine to me.  The only thing that gives me a little pause - and it's not a deal-breaker - is the idea of "clerking" stuff related to AFC.  Clerking ''seems'' (I'm not 100% sure) to be an area that gets you into the most trouble. But I suggest, rather than come up with some kind of a more complicated "AFC except no clerking" rule, that instead this be allowed too; except it would '''really, really''' be in your best interests to quickly defer to ''anyone'' who tells you that you should do something at AFC in a different way. Disruption at AFC - even if in good faith - would probably quickly lead to a reblock. [[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 17:07, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
::::::::@[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] I think that falls under Toadette's 3rd bullet point. They will action AfC submissions, but not participate at WT:AFC unless their action is brought there, in which case they'll respond and (hopefully) listen to the editor who raised a concern about their actions. Generally less fraught there than AN* which does have its share of frivolity as we unfortunately well know. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 18:20, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I suppose so; I don't really know the work flow that goes on at AFC.  I just noticed that TE said earlier "''I will attempt to use the projectspace to clerk the AfC subpages''", and don't really know if that's still true, or if it's prevented by bullet 3.  I think we need to all be on the same page. It isn't ''obvious'' to me that this is included in bullet 3, and the important thing (more important than the exact details that are settled on) is that everyone agrees on what those details are. [[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 20:42, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
:Here's what I'm thinking right now:<br>{{noping2|ToadetteEdit}} is [[WP:CONDUNBLOCK|conditionally unblocked]] subject to the following:{{pb}}
:# An indefinite topic ban from Wikipedia: and Wikipedia talk: spaces, [[WP:BROADLY|broadly construed]], with the following exceptions, which are to be narrowly construed:
:#* The [[WP:BANEX|standard exceptions to bans]].
:#* [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation]], solely for the purpose of asking for advice about accepting, declining, or rejecting a draft submitted through the AFC process.
:#* [[WP:XFD|Deletion discussions]] or [[WP:DRV|deletion reviews]].
:#* Requesting administrator attention at venues such as [[WP:AIV]], [[WP:ANI]], and [[WP:UAA]].
:#* Participating in, but not starting, a discussion where they are <em>directly</em> involved in a <em>discrete</em> and <em>preexisting</em> dispute (e.g., an editing conflict that is brought to [[WP:RSN]]), or are a named party to a dispute (e.g., at [[WP:DRN]]).
:# An indefinite topic ban from requesting additional permissions, broadly construed, regardless of namespace.
:{{pb}}For the avoidance of doubt, this conditional unblock does not affect ToadetteEdit's [[Wikipedia:Editing restrictions#ToadetteEdit|current topic ban]] from closing discussions (in any namespace). {{pb}}These topic bans may be loosened, such as by broadening the exceptions, or repealed entirely, by any uninvolved administrator or by community consensus at [[WP:AN]], after at least six months have passed. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 21:14, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
::This makes sense to me @[[User:Voorts|Voorts]] and @[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] I agree about the need for clarification and clarity. I think Voorts' proposal as of 21:14 makes it more clear. I think the only thing I might add to 4 is that it has to be a pressing need. This should not encourage rapid admin attention when it is a low-level issue. If it can be, it should be left to someone else to report. 
::And @[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] if I may offer one bit of advice, I know you were planning to appeal at the six month mark, which is rapidly approaching. I would suggest not, although I obviously cannot prohibit you from doing so. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 23:58, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
:::As the person who proposed your topic ban in the first place and wrote the six month's appeal clause, I cannot echo @[[User:Star Mississippi|Star Mississippi]]'s advice strongly enough. You are obviously permitted to appeal the ban in ~a week, but appealing the instant you are allowed to never goes well. I cannot imagine an appeal would be successful. You are your own worst enemy, ToadetteEdit. The point of this CONDUNBLOCK is to get you out of your own way so you can shine. Not appealing immediately is your first test of being able to get out of your own way, without a sanction formally restricting you from doing so. Best, [[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contributions/HouseBlaster|'''Blaster''']]&nbsp;([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;he/they) 06:18, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
::::Who said that I would appeal the ban on Feb 25th or later? I currently do not have enough time to contribute effectively, so there is no chance that I would apply immediately. As for the proposed conditional unblock, I would like to be allowed to edit the [[WT:NPP]] and join backlog drives. Other than that, it's fine to apply it in practice. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 18:37, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::You [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Optional_RfA_candidate_poll&diff=prev&oldid=1272445289 said] {{tq|I will apply as soon as when I successfully appeal my sanction from closing discussions of any sort (I can appeal the sanction starting from February 25th) as I will have understood the guidelines, in particular determining consensus, and learned from others closing them, and my account will be two years old. Since the sanction took effect on me, my activity decreased due to more participation outside this wiki and other real life factors, but I will return back into full activity next month.}} Which can be very easily read as you're intending to appeal on February 25 especially given your prior timeline assertions.
:::::I personally don't believe you should have full access to WT:NPP but leave that decision to someone else. It's my understanding you can review NPP without using project space but if I'm wrong please let me know. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 18:46, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
::::::What I said on ORCP (I admit I have missed that) is that I would apply for RFA the moment I successfully appeal the ban. I do not mean that I have intentions to appeal the moment I am allowed to, and my account will not be two years old on Feb 25 or a day to two later. I indeed do not want to apply it soon, but after at least a year of the ban. As for the new pages patrol discussion page, it is a venue where others often ask questions related to patrol and seek help. Like the [[WT:AFC]], if any issue is involved by activity, I will show up. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 18:56, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for clarification @[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]]. I'm not sure exactly what {{tq|Like the [[WT:AFC]], if any issue is involved by activity, I will show up.}} means, but if it means you have an occasional specific question about a new article, you can ask. But really, focus on reviews and writing, not discussions [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 21:21, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
::Why also ban me from the talk namespace. Then how will I be able to submit uncontroversial edit requests to certain pages in projectspace? [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 09:53, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
:::This is what I mean by please slow down and really read the information. You're not banned from talk space and no one is proposing that. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 14:06, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
::::I proposed a ban from Wikipedia talk, subject to the exceptions above. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 15:02, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::That said, I think part of the issues editors have identified is TE's edits in projectspace discussions, so banning from WP talk makes sense. Other editors can make proposals/edit requests to PAGs. I worry that letting TE do that will result in more issues. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 15:03, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for clarification @[[User:Voorts|Voorts]] and apologies for misunderstanding your inquiry @[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]]. That's what I was getting at when I said "But really, focus on reviews and writing, not discussions" and "that it has to be a pressing need. This should not encourage rapid admin attention when it is a low-level issue." so I don't think we disagree thankfully. I think TE not understanding where they're actually banned and isn't is going to be problematic in the end. TE, please focus on articles (writing, accepting) rather than discussing. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 15:13, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
:::The general idea, TE, is that we're trying to seek a balance between allowing you to do helpful/uncontroversial work in WP space, and continue to prevent you from making unhelpful/controversial edits that wastes other volunteers' time.  Yes, with the current recommended scope, you'll be prevented from making uncontroversial edit requests to WP-space pages.  But that is because we do not trust you yet to understand what the difference between controversial and uncontroversial.  It is not feasible to just say "don't be disruptive", because you have demonstrated that you don't know the difference.  It is not feasible to come up with a list of 20 additional WP-space pages you can edit, even if we agree you're not likely to disrupt them, because it takes time and effort from other people to make sure you're abiding by a really complicated topic ban. Part of the reason that people are trying to reduce the scope of your current ban from all of WP-space is so that you can learn (and then demonstrate that you understand) this difference.  
:::At this point, my own personal opinion is that we've beat this horse sufficiently, that Voorts' suggested scope is quite reasonable, and I wouldn't support modifying it anymore.  For me, we've reached the point of "take it leave it". [[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 18:24, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm not willing to modify it further, so take it or leave it is correct. @[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]]: let me know what you decide. [[User:Voorts|voorts]] ([[User talk:Voorts|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Voorts|contributions]]) 18:29, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks @[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] for your detailed insight. I totally agree with you & @[[User:Voorts|Voorts]] and apologies if I confused matters more this morning. TE, you have some good advice here and above from @[[User:HouseBlaster|HouseBlaster]]. I highly recommend continuing to refer back to them regardless of your next editing steps. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 18:38, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
:::::Then it is what it is. I will abide with the proposed solution. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 20:37, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

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== Question from [[User:Kaeez06|Kaeez06]] (19:59, 4 March 2025) ==

Hello! I had a small question and wasn’t sure if this was the right place to ask, but I thought I’d check anyway. Is there a tool similar to CropTool that allows straightening images on Wikipedia/Commons? I sometimes come across images that could use slight rotation adjustments, and I was wondering if there's an existing tool for that. Thanks in advance, and I appreciate your time! --[[User:Kaeez06|Kaeez06]] ([[User talk:Kaeez06|talk]]) 19:59, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Kaeez06|Kaeez06]], as far as I know, there is no other internal tool like CropTool. But there is a button next to images where one can request to rotate it, although at 45° increments. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 20:06, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

== Wow. Fourth nomination ==

That often suggests UPE

Great minds think alike 🇺🇦&nbsp;[[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk&nbsp;to&nbsp;me</small></sup>]]&nbsp;🇺🇦 09:50, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

:Indeed, given the author's disruptive creation move to the mainspace, it could be suggested that the user is engaging in UPE... [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 09:56, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
::I took the arbitrary decision to close [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Era Tak (4th nomination)]], but you may wish to transfer your nomination rationale to number three.  One of them needed to be closed and three had more overall content than four. 🇺🇦&nbsp;[[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk&nbsp;to&nbsp;me</small></sup>]]&nbsp;🇺🇦 10:00, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
:::Thank you so much since I can't perform closes. Anyways your nomination rationale is sufficient so no need to import mine.
:::When I tapped the button, I got an error saying that there was a deletion template so it was aborted. But I didn't realized that I created the subpage. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 10:06, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
::::In ''preferences > Gadgets'' you can choose to enable XFD Closer.  I try to use it wisely and with restraint since I am not an admin 🇺🇦&nbsp;[[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk&nbsp;to&nbsp;me</small></sup>]]&nbsp;🇺🇦 12:20, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::No.. I was topic banned from closing discussions, so turning on the gadget is pointless to me. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 14:12, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::Ouch. Not a pleasant thing to happen, and not worth appealing since others will do the task. That is history. I live in the present. 🇺🇦&nbsp;[[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk&nbsp;to&nbsp;me</small></sup>]]&nbsp;🇺🇦 22:20, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

== CVUA training req ==

Hey there. I previously decided to directly tackle [[WP:NPPS]] but my trainer (Cassiopeia) hasn't been active lately, so my progress is rather limited there. Guess I might as well go through CVUA first. Feel free to check my userpage for what I've already done/am doing so far. Have a great day, <span style="color: grey">it's</span> [[User:HKLionel|<span style="color: green">'''lio'''!</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color: grey">talk</span>]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/HKLionel|<span style="color: grey">work</span>]] 09:45, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]], thank you for choosing me to be your CVUA trainer. Your course should be ready within 24 hours. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 12:12, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
::Great, thanks :) <span style="color: grey">it's</span> [[User:HKLionel|<span style="color: green">'''lio'''!</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color: grey">talk</span>]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/HKLionel|<span style="color: grey">work</span>]] 12:46, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:InfinityMitt|InfinityMitt]] (15:44, 10 March 2025) ==

Hi, I've created a new article and submitted Publish. What happens next? It doesn't appear when I search for it. --[[User:InfinityMitt|InfinityMitt]] ([[User talk:InfinityMitt|talk]]) 15:44, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:InfinityMitt|InfinityMitt]], if you click on "publish changes" in the editor, the article will be created unless there is some error. If you are submitting a draft, do not worry; one of the reviewers will review your draft and accept it if the topic is worthy of an article. Please note that new articles are not indexed unless 90 days passed or a reviewer marks the article as reviewed. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 15:50, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

== Invitation to participate in research ==

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== Question from [[User:Nik Dr.X|Nik Dr.X]] (12:56, 15 March 2025) ==

Hello, could you tell me how to edit English articles correctly? --[[User:Nik Dr.X|Nik Dr.X]] ([[User talk:Nik Dr.X|talk]]) 12:56, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Nik Dr.X|Nik Dr.X]], you can read the [[Help:Introduction]]. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 14:15, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

== Urgent: Review of Avimukteshwaranand Saraswati Articles ==

@[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] , The "[[Jagadguru Shankaracharya Avimukteshwaranandah Saraswatee]]" article you accepted, now marked for speedy deletion, duplicates content from my March 6th article, "[[Avimukteshwaranand Saraswati]]." Revision history confirms my article's priority. Multiple declined drafts also exist. I request immediate review and consolidation. [[User:MH-wiki2025|MH-wiki2025]] ([[User talk:MH-wiki2025|talk]]) 10:46, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:MH-wiki2025|MH-wiki2025]], the best way is to redirect the first title. I wasn't aware of the article. I am currently not on home wifi, so I can't act right now. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 12:24, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

==Your draft article, [[Draft:Impact of the 2024 CrowdStrike incident]]==
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Hello, ToadetteEdit. It has been over six months since you last edited the [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]] submission or [[WP:Drafts|draft]] page you started, "[[Draft:Impact of the 2024 CrowdStrike incident|Impact of the 2024 CrowdStrike incident]]". 

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia [[WP:mainspace|mainspace]], the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply {{edit|Draft:Impact of the 2024 CrowdStrike incident|edit the submission}} and remove the {{tlc|db-afc}}, {{tlc|db-draft}}, or {{tlc|db-g13}} code. 

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== CVU Academy Request for Mentoring ==

Greetings,

I am intrested in mentoring under you, for the CVU: Academy, to better improve my vandalism skills. My time zone is EsT (Not ideal but, you were the closest available trainer) <span style="background: linear-gradient(90deg, #800080, #444444); -webkit-background-clip: text; color: transparent;"> '''twisted.'''</span> ([[User:Twistedmath|user]] | [[User talk:Twistedmath|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Twistedmath|contribs]]) 01:58, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Twistedmath|Twistedmath]], thank you for choosing me. I will set up a course in the next 24 hours, after checking if you are suitable or not. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 07:08, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

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== Hi. ==

im the one that created the amberol record list. I wanted to inform you that these are a diffirent type of record entirely, so I couldn't add it to blue amberols. Im also going to expand the article in the future, with the series having over 1000 recordings. so if this has convinced you, please re-review the article.

best regards (: [[User:Ungus bagungus the 3rd|Ungus bagungus the 3rd]] ([[User talk:Ungus bagungus the 3rd|talk]]) 20:06, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Ungus bagungus the 3rd|Ungus bagungus the 3rd]], I currently do not have time to review your submission. You can continue to expand the article, and you can then resubmit it so that another reviewer can review and potentially accept it. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 20:10, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

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'''Upcoming and current events and conversations'''<br/><small>''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Let's Talk|Let's Talk]] continues''</small>

*'''Wikimania 2025''': Program submission is still open until March 31. [[wikimania:Special:MyLanguage/2025:Program|Apply now]] to speak at Wikimania 2025. 
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*'''Design System''': [[diffblog:2025/03/14/wikimedia-design-jam-introduces-codex-to-designers/|Learn more about Wikimedia’s Codex design system]] and how to use it while designing for Wikimedia projects.
*'''Tech News''': The [https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContentTranslation&filter-type=automatic&filter-id=previous-edits&active-list=suggestions&from=en&to=es&wprov=wppw2 improved Content Translation tool dashboard] is now available in [[phab:T387820|10 Wikipedias]] and will be available for all Wikipedias [[phab:T387821|soon]]; on Wikimedia Commons, a [[c:Commons:WMF support for Commons/Upload Wizard Improvements#Improve category selection|new system to select the appropriate file categories]] has been introduced. More updates from tech news week [[diffblog:2025/03/10/tech-news-2025-week-11/|11]] and [[diffblog:2025/03/17/tech-news-2025-week-12/|12]].
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'''Annual Goals Progress on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2024-2025/Goals/Equity|Knowledge Equity]]'''<br/><small>''See also a list of all movement events: [[m:Special:AllEvents|on Meta-Wiki]]''</small>

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*'''Wikisource Conference''': [[diffblog:2025/03/13/wikisource-volunteers-reunite-after-a-decade-at-the-international-wikisource-conference-2025-in-bali/|Some highlights]] from the Wikisource Conference 2025 in Bali.
*'''ESEAP Hub''': [[diffblog:2025/03/20/eseap-hub-the-story-so-far-and-look-ahead/|Future plans for the ESEAP Hub]] one-year pilot project.


'''Annual Goals Progress on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2024-2025/Goals/Safety & Integrity|Safety & Integrity]]'''<br/><small>''See also blogs: [[diffblog:global-advocacy|Global Advocacy blog]] · [https://mailchi.mp/wikimedia/global-advocacy-policy-newsletter Global Advocacy Newsletter] · [https://wikimediapolicy.medium.com Policy blog]''</small>

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== The People's Recorder podcast ==

I would like to republish an article you flagged for soft deletion [[The People's Recorder Podcast]]. I am unable to find a way to make suggested changes to attributions. [[User:Esoser|Esoser]] ([[User talk:Esoser|talk]]) 20:07, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Esoser|Esoser]], if you want to recreate the article, create it as a draft since it will be deleted again under [[WP:G4|a criterion of speedy deletion]] if you publish it directly in mainspace. But please only create the article if it meets [[wp:N|notability guidelines]] demonstrated by reliable sources. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 20:11, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you for the quick reply. [[User:Esoser|Esoser]] ([[User talk:Esoser|talk]]) 20:12, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
::I have completed the draft of The People's Recorder article with revisions and would like it to be published. Can I move the draft to main space? Thanks. [[User:Esoser|Esoser]] ([[User talk:Esoser|talk]]) 18:30, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Esoser|Esoser]], if you see that the draft meets the notability guidelines among other policies and guidelines, then you can move it to the mainspace. You should ensure that you address the issues with the draft before publishing. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 18:33, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

== Question from [[User:Adedayo1987|Adedayo1987]] (01:40, 26 March 2025) ==

Hi how can I create my own article . Am an actor , a photographer, cinematographer and content creator. I want people to know me --[[User:Adedayo1987|Adedayo1987]] ([[User talk:Adedayo1987|talk]]) 01:40, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Adedayo1987|Adedayo1987]], I advise you against creating an [[wp:AUTOBIOGRAPHY|autobiography]]. To create an article, use the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Submission wizard|article wizard]], but please first read our [[help:Introduction|introduction]] to learn how to edit. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 07:22, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

== [[Draft:Law_on_languages_of_peoples_of_the_Russian_Federation]] ==

I am asking you, whether my changes are correct. [[User:Daniel Broomfield Ua|Daniel Broomfield Ua]] ([[User talk:Daniel Broomfield Ua|talk]]) 11:48, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

:I will check the draft soon. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 15:42, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Daniel Broomfield Ua|Daniel Broomfield Ua]], I've replied on the draft's talk page. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 19:02, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

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== Question from [[User:MountainHobo|MountainHobo]] (01:53, 31 March 2025) ==

Hey I was wondering if it possible that if I find a subject without a page on it can I take the liberty and create a quality page? --[[User:MountainHobo|MountainHobo]] ([[User talk:MountainHobo|talk]]) 01:53, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:MountainHobo|MountainHobo]], if the subject is [[wp:N|notable]] enough, then you can create an article. Be sure to read the [[help:Introduction|introduction]], and use the [[Wikipedia:Article wizard|Article wizard]] to help you create an article. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 08:20, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

== Hi ==

You do know you can RFD req drafts? [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hostile_government_takeover&diff=prev&oldid=1283889242 this]? [[User:Cactusisme|'''<span style="color:#0D98BA;">Cactus</span><span style="color:#013220;">🌵</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Cactusisme|<i style="color:green">spiky</i>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|<i style="color:green">ouch</i>]]</sup>  12:03, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

:at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion]] [[User:Cactusisme|'''<span style="color:#0D98BA;">Cactus</span><span style="color:#013220;">🌵</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Cactusisme|<i style="color:green">spiky</i>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|<i style="color:green">ouch</i>]]</sup>  12:07, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:Cactusisme|Cactusisme]], the reason why I am nominating at AfD is that it is an article, and AfD has more participants than MfD which is for user pages and other pages which do not fit the other XfDs. I do remember someone saying that an AfD is better for a draft that was declined multiple times at AfC, but that was a year ago, and I could not remember that page. Also noting that the page was at mainspace before being turned into a draft. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 12:11, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
:::Okay, sorry [[User:Cactusisme|'''<span style="color:#0D98BA;">Cactus</span><span style="color:#013220;">🌵</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Cactusisme|<i style="color:green">spiky</i>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Cactusisme|<i style="color:green">ouch</i>]]</sup>  12:14, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
::ToadetteEdit, it is unacceptable to [[Special:Diff/1283889242|move a page]] just so it can be subject to a deletion discussion. If a draft is resubmitted after rejection, you should nominate it at MFD. If not, leave it be. Articles in draft space do no harm. Best regards, <span style="display:inline-block;">[[User:HouseBlaster|House]][[Special:Contribs/HouseBlaster|'''Blaster''']] ([[User talk:HouseBlaster|talk]] • he/they)</span> 20:45, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
:::My apologies for the late reply, but I will not do so again. I do remember one who moved an article to draftspace and MfD'd it. What I did yesterday was just a bad idea caused by my bad judgment and decision-making. But currently, there is no way to replace the AfD with the MfD. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 09:40, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

== Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 6 ==

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'''Upcoming and current events and conversations'''<br/><small>''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Let's Talk|Let's Talk]] continues''</small>

*'''Progress on the Annual Plan''': [[diffblog:2025/03/24/progress-on-the-annual-plan-six-month-snapshot/|Six-Month Snapshot]].
*'''Global Trends''': [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard/Global trends and strengthening Wikipedia’s neutral point of view|A message from Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees]] on global trends and [[diffblog:2025/03/27/strengthening-wikipedias-neutral-point-of-view/|strengthening Wikipedia’s neutral point of view]].
*'''Wikimedia Hackathon''': [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Hackathon 2025|The registration]] to attend the Wikimedia Hackathon is still open until midnight April 13.
*'''Central Asia Wikicon''': [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Central Asian WikiCon 2025|The Central Asian WikiCon 2025]] will take place on April 19–20 in Tashkent, Uzbekistan.


'''Annual Goals Progress on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2024-2025/Goals/Infrastructure|Infrastructure]]'''<br/><small>''See also newsletters: [[m:Wikimedia Apps/Newsletter|Wikimedia Apps]]&nbsp;· [[mw:Growth/Newsletters|Growth]]&nbsp;· [[m:Research:Newsletter|Research]]&nbsp;· [[mw:Newsletter:Web team's projects|Web]]&nbsp;· [[:f:Wikifunctions:Status updates|Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia]]&nbsp;· [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech News]]&nbsp;· [[mw:Newsletter:Language and Internationalization Newsletter|Language and Internationalization]]&nbsp;· [[mw:Special:Newsletters|other newsletters on MediaWiki.org]]''</small>

*'''Infrastructure''': [[diffblog:2025/04/01/how-crawlers-impact-the-operations-of-the-wikimedia-projects/|How crawlers impact the operations of the Wikimedia projects]].
*'''Tech News''': The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]] will be released to multiple wikis (see [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status#Global Deployment Plan|deployment plan]] for details) in April 2025; The Editing team is working on a new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check|Edit check]]: [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check#26 March 2025|Peacock check]]. This check’s goal is to identify non-neutral terms while a user is editing a wikipage. More updates from tech news week [[diffblog:2025/03/24/tech-news-2025-week-13/|13]] and [[diffblog:2025/04/01/tech-news-2025-week-14/|14]].
*'''Wikifunctions''': Read the [[f:Special:MyLanguage/Wikifunctions:Status updates/2025-03-28|latest status updates]].


'''Annual Goals Progress on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2024-2025/Goals/Equity|Knowledge Equity]]'''<br/><small>''See also a list of all movement events: [[m:Special:AllEvents|on Meta-Wiki]]''</small>

*'''Wikipedia Library''': [[diffblog:2025/04/02/whats-new-in-the-wikipedia-library-january-march-2025/|What’s new]] from January to March 2025.
*'''Let's Connect Learning Clinic''': Missed the last Learning Clinic on "Safe Spaces, Strong Voices: Advancing Inclusion through the UCoC"? [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Grants:Knowledge Sharing/Connect/Calendar|Recording is now available]].


'''Annual Goals Progress on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2024-2025/Goals/Safety & Integrity|Safety & Integrity]]'''<br/><small>''See also blogs: [[diffblog:global-advocacy|Global Advocacy blog]] · [https://mailchi.mp/wikimedia/global-advocacy-policy-newsletter Global Advocacy Newsletter] · [https://wikimediapolicy.medium.com Policy blog]''</small>

*'''Transparency report''': The Wikimedia Foundation’s publishes its [[foundationsite:about/transparency/2024-2/|latest Transparency Report]] covering the period from July to December 2024. View [[diffblog:2025/03/31/the-wikimedia-foundations-latest-transparency-report-3/|highlights from the report]].
*'''Global Advocacy''': Read [[diffblog:2025/03/21/dont-blink-protecting-the-wikimedia-model-its-people-and-its-values-in-february-2025/|the latest developments on public policy advocacy]] from Wikimedia Foundation's Global Advocacy team.


'''Annual Goals Progress on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2024-2025/Goals/Effectiveness|Effectiveness]]'''<br/><small>''See also: [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2023-2024/Reports|quarterly Metrics Reports]]''</small>

*'''Wikimedia Enterprise''': [https://enterprise.wikimedia.com/blog/prorata-ai-and-wikimedia-enterprise-partner/ Wikimedia Enterprise Partners with ProRata.ai to Champion Sustainable Search Engine Practices].


'''Board and Board committee updates'''<br/><small>''See [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard|Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard]] · [[m:Affiliations Committee/News|Affiliations Committee Newsletter]]''</small>

*'''Elections Committee''': [[listarchive:list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/GN6N7INJGG7L6AFK63T27DGCXKR376AL/|Wikimedia Foundation Governance Committee has appointed a new Elections Committee]].


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== Question from [[User:Engage5w|Engage5w]] (14:55, 7 April 2025) ==

My goal is to create a Wiki page for my client. How many edits do I have to make before I can create a page? --[[User:Engage5w|Engage5w]] ([[User talk:Engage5w|talk]]) 14:55, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Engage5w|Engage5w]], there is no minimum edit requirement to create an article. But you must be [[WP:AUTOCONFIRM|autoconfirmed]] (have an account that is four days old and has ten edits) to directly create articles in the [[wp:MAINSPACE|mainspace]]. The [[wp:article wizard|Article wizard]] is always open for new users who want to create articles. But users with a [[wp:COI|conflict of interest]] are advised to use the AfC process (I.e. article wizard), and it becomes apparent that you have a conflict of interest in "the client" that you are referring to in your comment. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 15:56, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

== Pending AfC submission ==

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Hello ToadetteEdit, You marked the above submission as "review in progress" 7 days ago. I just thought I would let you know. [[User:CF-501 Falcon|'''''CF-501''''' Falcon]] ([[User talk:CF-501 Falcon|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/CF-501_Falcon|contribs]]) 17:25, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

:Hello. I've accepted this draft. Normally I would wait until the G6 speedy request is acknowledged, but I must have forgot this. Thanks for the heads up though. [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit#top|talk]]) 17:29, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
::No problem, I just saw the draft lingering in the [[:Category:Pending AfC submissions being reviewed now|category]]. Thank you! [[User:CF-501 Falcon|'''''CF-501''''' Falcon]] ([[User talk:CF-501 Falcon|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/CF-501_Falcon|contribs]]) 17:46, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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