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== Winning percentage four digits ==
Can an option be done for goal percentage with 4 digits, for example like the win percentage with notratio setting?

I need help if there is another notratio code for goal percentage please, anyone who can help me?

=== Example ===
{{#invoke:Sports table|main|style=WL
|update=4 February 2022
|source=[https://nbl.com.au/stats/ladder NBL.com.au]
|ranking_style=percentage
|pct_style=notratio
|use_goal_percentage=yes
|split4=1
|teamwidth=250

|team1=SEM |team2=MEL |team3=PER |team4=ILL |team5=TAS |team6=SYD |team7=BNE |team8=ADL |team9=CNS |team10=NZB

|win_SEM=6 |loss_SEM=2 |gf_SEM=686 |ga_SEM=636 |name_SEM = [[South East Melbourne Phoenix]]
|win_MEL=8 |loss_MEL=3 |gf_MEL=931 |ga_MEL=830 |name_MEL = [[Melbourne United]]
|win_PER=7 |loss_PER=3 |gf_PER=880 |ga_PER=809 |name_PER = [[Perth Wildcats]]
|win_ILL=6 |loss_ILL=5 |gf_ILL=962 |ga_ILL=966 |name_ILL = [[Illawarra Hawks]]
|win_TAS=5 |loss_TAS=6 |gf_TAS=834 |ga_TAS=837 |name_TAS = [[Tasmania JackJumpers]]
|win_SYD=5 |loss_SYD=7 |gf_SYD=959 |ga_SYD=987 |name_SYD = [[Sydney Kings]]
|win_BNE=4 |loss_BNE=6 |gf_BNE=844 |ga_BNE=880 |name_BNE = [[Brisbane Bullets]]
|win_ADL=4 |loss_ADL=6 |gf_ADL=805 |ga_ADL=854 |name_ADL = [[Adelaide 36ers]]
|win_CNS=2 |loss_CNS=4 |gf_CNS=459 |ga_CNS=484 |name_CNS = [[Cairns Taipans]]
|win_NZB=3 |loss_NZB=8 |gf_NZB=866 |ga_NZB=943 |name_NZB = [[New Zealand Breakers]]

|result1=SF |result2=SF |result3=SF |result4=SF
|res_col_header=Q
|col_SF=green1 |text_SF=Semi-Finals
}}

[[User:Giacontigers|Giacontigers]] ([[User talk:Giacontigers|talk]]) 12:10, 6 February 2022 (AEDT)


== This module interfering with {{tl|efn}} on {{tl|notelist}} ==

See for example [[NCAA Season 6 basketball tournaments]]. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 01:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

:If tried using <code>|group=</code> but it doesn't solve the issue. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 01:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Do you mean that you don't want the notes to appear under the group B table and, instead, appear in the notes section at the end of the article? [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 09:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Yeah. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 14:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::The module automatically add a notelist equivalent to {{tl|notelist}} / {{tl|notelist-la}} so  don't use <code>|note_XXX=</code>, instead use {{tl|efn-ua}} (or any of the other options) and the corresponding {{tl|notelist-ua}} [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 16:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::That's noted. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 19:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::Thanks. Using {{tl|efn-ua}} and {{tl|notelist-ua}} worked. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 19:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

== Winning percentage ==

As our article is at [[winning percentage]], shouldn't the tooltip say "winning percentage" as well, instead of "win percentage"?

Also, all league tables that use this method do not boldface the winning percentage column (see [https://www.nba.com/standings NBA.com], [https://www.espn.com/nba/standings ESPN], [https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/standings/ Y!Sports], [https://www.cbssports.com/nba/standings/ CBS], etc., unlike assoc. football tables that boldface the "Pts." columns. With that, can the boldfaced columns be converted to regular text? [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 17:44, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

:win percentage or winning percentage looks like it's a bit of a UK/US thing, win is more common in the UK than winning. Regarding bolding, just because those sources don't bold the column is not necessarily a reason for WP not to, you could call it WP's house style.  That said, almost anything is possible and looking at the code for WDL it doesn't look the most difficult change to put a bold/normal font weight flag in, although for backwards compatibility with all the existing tables there would have to be an acceptance that bold is the default. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 20:26, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
::FWIW, re: [[WP:ENGVAR]], "winning percentage" is used in sports such as basketball, and in league tables that this is used, it's a safe bet none of those are from the UK. Re [[MOS:BOLD]], we do have a house style, and it seems that this is not one of the cases... at least I can [[WP:IAR]] association football usage since it is near universal. The league table not having boldface for teams using winning percentage, it's all near universal. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 20:38, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] I'll have a play around in the sandbox. Is this only WDL or are there any others that need to be considered? [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 10:58, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
::::Good question. AFAIK winning percentage is only relevant on WL style. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 12:33, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::thanks. WL invokes WDL anyway. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 12:42, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] can you give me some example tables to look at. I picked up {{tl|2011 PBA Governors' Cup standings}} as something you'd edited but I could do with a wider range to play around with.  I've identified which lines affect the bolding and I've hard changed it in the module sandbox.  My sandbox page [[User:Nthep/sandbox2]] shows the results as well as a UK table which used both percentage points and competition points. If this is what you're looking for then next step is to make it a variable. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 17:57, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::::That's more or less how it looks like; see for example [[2020–21 NBA G League season#Regular season]]. Winning percentage is used primarily on [[Module:Sports table/WL]] (not WDL) for basketball and baseball. In these sports, the "Pld" column is denoted as "GP" (or games played). Another sport that uses winning percentage but has draws (or tied games) is American football, but North American based leagues do not use this module except for that one instance in the [[NBA G League]] during covid. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 21:47, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::::To think about it, this can also be applied to WDL as both baseball and American football have tied games and use winning percentages, it's just that the value of tied games have changed through time in some leagues. Also, the ties column is after losses, or WLT, not WDL. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 21:54, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Nthep}}, update on this? The examples on your sandbox looks great. Other leagues also have a similar PCT statistics; see [[2024–25 NBL season#Ladder]] (Australia), that actually uses percentages rounded off to the nearest hundredths. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 21:04, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] sorry, it's gone on a bit of a back burner. I hit a snag that I haven't worked out yet. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 21:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
:::No worries. [[User:Howard the Duck|Howard the Duck]] ([[User talk:Howard the Duck|talk]]) 21:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

== Sports table/WDL GD/PP and Pts/PCT headers ==

Can the headers of these columns (and any others not currently editable) be made to be changeable, such as the current <code>|postitle=</code> or <code>|team_header=</code>? 

Eg. <code>|ptstitle=</code> or <code>|gd_header=</code> (something of this nature) [[User:KeneRink63|KeneRink63]] ([[User talk:KeneRink63|talk]]) 04:56, 13 May 2025 (UTC)