Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carmela Contarino

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 12:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Carmela Contarino

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Non-notable individual lacking GHits and GNEWS of substance. Appears to fail WP:BIO. ttonyb (talk) 00:25, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Almost by definition, a person auditioning for Australian Idol is non-notable - else why would they bother? The whole purpose of appearing on those shows is to become notable as a result. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 01:10, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And too, that audition and apperance is only covered in the very last sentence. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 03:10, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, sorry i'm not sure why this is being debated so much, many pages on Wikipedia point to Carmela however there is no page for her. She didn't audition for 'Idol' she presented a segment in it, also was the co host of one of Sydney's biggest commercial breakfast radio shows. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Graytek (talk • contribs) 08:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, redlinks do often encourage the creation of new articles, so your having taken steps to create one is laudable. But what will be most important is to show that this individual has received decent coverage over a period of time in reliable sources so as to meet the general notabiliy guide. If she has won awards or accolades for her work, that will help as well. Did the 'The Carmela Show' itself recieve coverage in the media? Did her work on Edge 96.1 recieve coverage? Or her work on Mix 106.5? And in meeting WP:ANYBIO the Australian Commercial Radio Awards are a good start, if sourced. Hope these suggestions help you bring to article up to its potential. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 10:46, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment From the reference given, it would seem that the 'Mike E and Carmela' Show was axed because of falling ratings. Being 'nominated' is not necessarily notable. For an Oscar, yes, because the nominations are controlled. In other awards, nominations may be limited, or may come from every man and his dog. Without knowing how this particular award works, it is impossible to decide on its notability at the nomination stage. One reason why this is being debated is that virtually nothing is referenced - I do applaud the honesty of putting that reference in, by the way. The majority of careers do have setbacks. The fall in ratings might well be due to a quality unappreciated by the station's main audience. The presenters on the station I listen to (BBC Radio 3) would probably get zero ratings on a pop station... Good luck with the career to Carmela, and for now, get the references. If this goes, still get them, ready for the return. Peridon (talk) 13:25, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now that is looking quite a bit better. Peridon (talk) 12:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:58, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:CREATIVE. sources confirm she was on a radio show and she did things like interviews but no substantial coverage about her as a person. LibStar (talk) 04:51, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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