Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brandon Manilow

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The result was Keep. There were about equal numbers of Keep and Delete votes, and I was surprised that the !voters had different opinions on whether WP:PORNBIO was met. PORNBIO specifically mentions Category:Pornographic film awards. GayVN Awards is in Category:Pornographic film awards, and Golden Dickie Awards are included in the list at List of gay pornography awards, which is itself in the category. Manilow was nominated for Golden Dickie in 2008 and the GayVN Awards in 2009, which technically meets 'multiple nominations.' I discussed this with User:MichaelQSchmidt on his talk page to be sure I was interpreting PORNBIO correctly. If people think that the List of gay pornography awards is too inclusive, they might raise that on its talk page or on a policy page. EdJohnston (talk) 15:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brandon Manilow

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DELETE. Identified as problematic BLP article lacking sources back in mid 2007 and nothing has changed since. Fails GNG and everything else I can think of. JBsupreme (talk) 19:10, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails to meet WP:PORNBIO - 19 movies is not a significant contribution in porn, and none of the movies appear to be specifically notable themselves (though anyone who knows more about gay porn feel free to correct me here...) Addionne (talk) 19:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Some of the films he has been in are award winners. I have found:
  1. Greek Holiday won the 2005 GayVN Awards for Best Foreign Release.
  2. Lucas in Love won the 2006 GayVN Awards for Best Foreign Release and the 2006 Grabby Award for Best International Video.

Ash (talk) 00:11, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - it seems he has starred in several award-winning films, and been nominated for awards himself. This meets WP:PORNBIO like nobody's business. Thanks Ash! Addionne (talk) 00:14, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:GNG and WP:BIO. No evidence of significant coverage by reliable, third-party published sources. — Satori Son 19:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Added sources for nominations. Evidently passes PORNBIO. Ash (talk) 23:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. -- Ash (talk) 23:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- Ash (talk) 23:04, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per meeting WP:PORNBIO's " Has received nominations for well-known awards in multiple years, now sourced since nomination, with kudos to User:Ash for showing that it could be done, rather than it being deleted because of WP:NOEFFORT since 2007. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 23:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:02, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't pass either WP:GNG or WP:PORNBIO. I'm not sure what alternate universe the Golden Dickie awards qualify as "well-known" in, but less than thirty ghits doesn't qualify in this one. It was a one time award ceremony, with no coverage, given by a relatively minor retailer. Horrorshowj (talk) 02:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep The award GayVN award nomination shows that he passes porn bio. AniMate 06:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per reasoning of Horrorshowj. Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails pornbio. Has only received one nomination for a notable award. Epbr123 (talk) 13:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- You appear to be assuming that GayVN Awards are notable and Golden Dickie Awards are non-notable. Is there a consensus somewhere that supports your view? Ash (talk) 13:42, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Horrorshowj has already explained why it isn't notable. Epbr123 (talk) 14:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Thanks for your explanation. That is not a consensus on notability. Ash (talk) 16:37, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - So? Where's the consensus that the GayVN Awards and Golden Dickie Awards are notable? Epbr123 (talk) 02:27, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        I would assume that these are notable awards instead of falling into WP:ITSNOTABLE38.109.88.196 (talk) 07:08, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep 38.109.88.196 (talk) 07:09, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.