Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/'t Brouwerskolkje

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The result was speedy keep per WP:SNOW as it is already clear that there is no consensus to delete. (non-admin closure) Andrew🐉(talk) 07:59, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I see nothing notable about this company. Its just a single closed restaurant. The page has been a stub since 2015 and reliant on the same probably not reliable source multiple times. So I suggest it be deleted. --Adamant1 (talk) 06:11, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 06:31, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 06:31, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep A restaurant with two Michelin stars for multiple years is definitely notable. It would have been nice when the filer had used WP:BEFORE and respected Dutch language sources from one of the foremost publications about the hospitality sector in the Netherlands. The Banner talk 09:31, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Banner, I did look at the Dutch language sources. Thanks though. see Notability (organizations and companies) specifically Examples of trivial coverage "inclusion in lists of similar organizations, particularly in "best of", "top 100", "fastest growing" or similar lists." Along with the product reviews section that reviews must "Be significant: brief and routine reviews (including Zagat) do not qualify. Significant reviews are where the author has personally experienced or tested the product and describes their experiences in some depth, provides broader context, and draws comparisons with other products." Neither of the Michelin Star sources have details of the restaurant and they are trivial without it. A star rating system on its own doesn't mean jack for notability. Especially without other wider notable coverage of the topic. The Dutch language article doesn't even have any more sources then the English one. Therefore, I stand by the lack of notability and continue my thinking the article should be deleted. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:55, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notability does not vanish when a business closes. Having two Michelin stars is quite the feat; even one would make almost any restaurant notable. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 23:53, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Michelin starred restaurants, especially those with two, almost inevitably receive significant coverage in many reliable, independent sources. In order to be convinced that this closed restaurant is not notable, I would need to see a convincing analysis by an editor familiar with the full range of reliable sources covering Dutch restaurants explaining why this restaurant escaped coverage in reliable sources despite its Michelin stars. I am not holding my breath. I submit that the nominator's time would be better spent trying to improve the article rather than trying to delete it. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is a book called The Kitchen as Laboratory: Reflections on the Science of Food and Cooking, published by Columbia University Press, that devotes significant coverage to this restaurant. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notability from the reviews from internationally recognized bodies is an easy source of meeting GNG. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:37, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Cullen's source and the Michelin stars - I can't think of a better definition of notability amongst restaurants than the phrase 'Michelin-starred'. GirthSummit _(blether) 06:49, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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