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This article was nominated for deletion on 11 August 2023. The result of the discussion was draftify.

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Please do not remove AfD link

This article was previously moved from main space as a result of a deletion discussion. Please do not remove the banner link indicating this history at the top of this page. It is very important context for anyone working on this draft if we want to avoid repeating the same mistakes. StereoFolic (talk) 15:46, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2A02:587:4282:CFE9:98C3:D944:16D6:A8B2, since you are the one trying to remove the banner - this context is relevant to the current state of the draft because the main reason the article was draftified was WP:Crystal. Your recent edits to the draft do more crystal-balling, so I recommend reviewing those guidelines. Rumors will not be admitted back into mainspace. StereoFolic (talk) 15:52, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To the person/people trying to reinstate this article

Several IPs have recently been trying to revive this draft and get it through AfC. As mentioned above, this article was thoroughly discussed in a previous deletion discussion, with overwhelming consensus for deletion on the grounds that GPT-5 doesn't yet exist, so this article is entirely speculation, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. Please stop disruptively attempting to circumvent the process here. It just wastes the time of editors reviewing AfC and AfD. Until more factual information about GPT-5 exists, this article has no chance of surviving in mainspace. StereoFolic (talk) 15:32, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:GPT-5

You may copy some info from Draft:GPT-5. Maxeto0910 (talk) 22:12, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Maxeto0910: Why not merge the content of this page into Draft:GPT-5, which has older history, and then move it to mainspace? –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 23:09, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Because the draft article overall is not that great, containing too much speculation and being verbose, as well as containing too much redundant information not directly related to GPT-5 but to other subjects which each have own articles. Only some parts are worth merging into this one. Maxeto0910 (talk) 23:18, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was not proposing that speculative parts of that draft are kept. The draft still has longer history overall, hence my suggestion. However, I am not necessarily against keeping this version instead. –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 23:23, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I understood that, but trimming the bloated article is probably more work than simply copying the relevant parts of it into this one. If you want to do that to preserve the longer edit history, feel free to do so though. Maxeto0910 (talk) 23:27, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cherry-picking content from the draft into this article (as already done by Maxeto0910) seems like a good approach. I propose to remove the "Histmerge" template. Alenoach (talk) 19:19, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Alenoach: Those are not mutually exclusive. –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 19:20, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

PhD. level?

Can we just drop that sentence: ".....better than predecessor......PhD level..". We are not going to include this claim just because a ceo said this. Isolatedchimpanzee (talk) 09:39, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

also what does this means: It is requested that an image or photograph of a "force a fast answer" screenshot that isn't a German-language response to an unnatural "that I can use as a screenshot for the Wikipedia article" request Isolatedchimpanzee (talk) 09:45, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Isolatedchimpanzee: This was intended to refer to File:GPT-5 longer thinking Screenshot 2025-08-08 214140.png, which has since been replaced in this article anyway. –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 19:27, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

as a say, it would be better if someone fix that awkward phrasing, its very hard to understand sometime . thanks Isolatedchimpanzee (talk) 22:23, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"We are not going to include this claim just because a ceo said this." No, we should include this sentence as it is highly relevant to get an impression of how a product was marketed and advertised in order to adequately understand its critical reception. It is also kind of relevant in itself how a product has been described by the very company it released it. Maxeto0910 (talk) 19:50, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Background section too long

This article's background section is way too long. It should merely focus on the notable events which happened in advance of GPT-5's release and not summarize OpenAI's whole corporate history and get into how the AI boom started.

I think everything before "On April 14, Sam Altman, the chief executive officer of OpenAI, spoke at an event at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and said that the company was not training GPT-5 at that time. He stated that OpenAI was "prioritizing GPT-4 development" and that "we are not and won't for some time" release GPT-5." should be removed. Maxeto0910 (talk) 19:57, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Maxeto0910: Feel free to trim that section if you want. Perhaps a briefer summary of pre-2023 developments could be retained with a source that mentions them as background information in the context of GPT-5. –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 21:48, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Even that would be quite redundant I think considering we have articles about OpenAI, its previous GPT models, and the AI boom. People can read these articles if they want to learn more about how AI developed. Not everything that can be reliably sourced has to be included in articles where the information simply doesn't belong. Maxeto0910 (talk) 23:47, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think this edit in particular made the background section way too long and unfocused, although it was already a problem before that. Alenoach (talk) 19:25, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Add information about GPT-5-Instant and GPT-5-Safety

Have seen these mentioned online, but I'm not sure if there are reliable sources to these. Might also worth mentioning the teen suicide that led to GPT-5-Safety being made. 112.201.199.64 (talk) 00:39, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any reliable sources mentioning models by these names. If it was confirmed to exist, there would be leaks reported in reliable sources, or official OpenAI announcements. "GPT-5-Instant" is probably some journalists getting confused about GPT-5 with reasoning effort set to minimal. StereoFolic (talk) 01:27, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GPT-5 Instant was mentioned in a ChatGPT Release Note dated October 22, 2025 112.201.199.64 (talk) 02:13, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Assuming you mean this its not really clear what "GPT-5 Instant" refers to, it's only mentioned once and the linked gpt5 announcement page doesn't say anything about it. I'm guessing this is just an informal term for gpt5 with the lowest reasoning setting, which is already covered. Jamedeus (talk) 03:07, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]