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For posting an Educational article

 DIXIT2306 (talk) 05:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I wanted to post and article or Educational information to provide better information regarding the Indian youth and for all who need the information.

Https://www.drsarkarinaukri.in is the place where i am shring the information right now.

Hello, DIXIT2306, Your "generosity" in "sharing" a commercial website with Wikipedia goes against Wikipedia's mission, which is not to promote Sarkari Naukri. You don't appear to be here to make an encyclopedia,--Quisqualis (talk) 07:08, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

DIXIT2306 Please understand that Wikipedia is not for merely providing information or merely educating people. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent reliable sources state about topics that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. 331dot (talk) 09:15, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism section within Wikipedia

What is the vandalism section within Wikipedia? Habelgmsa (talk) 08:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Habelgmsa:, hi, sorry what exactly do you mean by this? As in, where would you go to report vandalism, or where our pages on handling vandalism are? Nosebagbear (talk) 08:24, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Habelgmsa:. You might find what you are looking for at Wikipedia:Vandalism.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed user

How do I know that I am an autoconfirmed user? Frankhad (talk) 09:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Frankhad. Well, you aren't one yet, but when your account is 4 days old and you have made at least 10 edits, you will automatically be assigned that user right. You can find what user rights anyone has by going to one of their userpages and clicking 'User contributions'. At the bottom of that page, click the 'User rights' link to view what user rights they have been allocated. (See here for yours). Hope this helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:23, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

How/whether to deal with problematic users

Hi!

Though my user is old, I have only recently become more active in editing Wikipedia, mostly by patrolling the "recent changes" page. There I came across a user making unsourced edits going against the existing sources, Frontier Place. I reverted the edits and warned him, but I kept watching his edits. He is very active, and does a lot of good work, but communicates very little and often makes controversial, unsourced or sometimes outright wrong edits. For example, over the last weeks he has been changing all mentions of "Stockholm Metro" to "Stockholm Tunnel Rail". This seems to me to go against the talk page on Talk:Stockholm_metro, where the conclusion seems to have been to use "Metro", which also seems to be used for most other European (partly) underground public transport systems. He also removed a lot of mentions of the Åland Islands being Finnish, removed mentions of Sweden as a country in favor of the European Union, was banned for 72 hours for sourceless edits of several pages on the coronavirus epidemic, and all of this with basically no communication, sources or public reasons.

It also seems really likely to me that the account belongs to the same person as Linde Place, who was blocked for using sockpuppets to circumvent a ban. Their contributions are extremely similar, and Frontier Place starts editing about two weeks after Linde Place's users were banned. I left a message on the talk page of the user that signed the sockpuppet investigation, CFCF, but he hasn't replied, and is semi-retired.

My question is what to do about users like this? Should I tell someone, and if so, who?

Many thanks in advance for your help! Knuthove (talk) 00:53, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Knuthove, and welcome to the Teahouse. You have raised at least two distinct issues.

• If an editor makes what you think is an incorrect or ill-judged article edit, or one that violates a previously established consensus for the article, I advise following the Bold, revert, discuss cycle You revert the edit, and then start a discussion on the article talk page, pinging the editor you reverted to invite him or her to the discussion. If possible, engage the editor and try to discuss the reasons why the edits are well-judged or not. Focus on content, not contributors. If the editor refuses to engage, or just repeats the edit and will not listen to or consider discussion, you can pursue dispute resolution. Do not repeatedly revert. In many cases that would constitute edit warring which is never helpful, even if you are correct abnout the content issue. There are a few limited exceptions: These are listed on the page about edit-warring linked above.
• Of an editpor is acting improperly -- making insults or violating conduct policies, raise the matter on the user's talk page first. If mthat does not work, follow the advice in WP:DR on conduct issues. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 03:38, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
• If you suspect that a blocked or banned user has returned under a new account, or that one user is operating multiple accounts improperly, go to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations and follow the instructions there. Do not make such accusations or suggestions anywhere else. Remember that several different editors may have similar editing patterns and interests, unless th4ese are very unusual indeed.

I hope that advice is helpful. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 03:38, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you DES! That was helpful. I will read the articles you linked, and probably try to take it up directly with the user. Knuthove (talk) 12:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

A final follow up question: When it says on the user page that LindePlace is "blocked indefinitely", and I can't see that he has been unblocked, or that FrontierPlace has indicated that that account is a clean start, then that would mean that if they are indeed determined to be the same person, then it would be a violation of the ban, right? Knuthove (talk) 12:38, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Knuthove Quite probably, but you can't be sure and have no need to make such a determination. A clean start will not normally be publicly announced or disclosed. In any case that is for the SPI or a possibly blocking admin to determine. Starting the SPI and providing any available evidence is all that you need to or should do in such a matter.

Note that a block is not the same thing as a ban, although banned users are normally blocked. A ban is a determination that a specific person should not edit Wikipedia, for a specific time or indefinitely: it is made by community consensus (often at WP:ANI) or by ARBCOM. A block is a removal of permission settings preventing editing by a particular account, for a specific time or indefinitely, normally made by an admin. A ban may be enforced by a block, but many blocks are not bans. Editing in violation of a ban or block is normally grounds to block the account used to make the edits, and to extend the ban or block on the person making them. A block applies to an account, a ban to a person. However a person whose account is blocked should not use or create another account to avoid the block, nor edit without logging in to9 any account. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 13:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

DES, again, thanks! I was not aware of the difference between blocks and bans. I will submit a case to the SPI through Twinkle, and have them take it from there. Knuthove (talk) 13:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

How do you ensure that we have good evaluation of sources? Good quality of sources used

How do you ensure that we have good evaluation of sources? How does the Wikipedia experts herein ensure that new editors are thorough with the sources selected before proceeding to the "citations added" section? Habelgmsa (talk) 08:06, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

All new articles, either at Draft stage or when created directly as an article, are scrutinized by one or more experienced editors who choose to do that sort of work on Wikipedia. The sources used are checked to verify their Reliability and that they actually do support the facts that are being cited to them. Also, these reviewers will check that everything in the article is cited to reliable sources.

In the case of a Draft, the reviewers might themselves add better sources, but if they cannot find such sources they may Decline the Draft, meaning its author is asked to improve it before resubmitting it (other editors can contribute to this). If the author is unable or unwilling to do so after several resubmissions and declines, they may decide that the subject is unsuitable, and Reject the Draft.

If the article is created directly, without going through a draft stage, it will be similarly evaluated, but will likely be judged to a higher standard, and may be changed to a Draft or deleted entirely, depending on its potential or lack of it. Newly created articles are usually reviewed fairly promptly by the New Pages Patrol. New articles are not made visible to the web crawlers that compile search engine indices until they have been approved by the NPP or after 90 days, whichever comes sooner: Drafts are of course never visible to the crawlers.

Some new editors may ask at the Help Desk, Teahouse or Reliable Sources fora such as the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard about whether their sources are suitable; I believe most do not, so they are judged as part of the review process.

Once an article has been accepted, various editors interested in its subject will add it to their watchlists, which will alert them every time an edit is made to it so that they can, should they wish, check the edit's quality and any new source it may have cited.

I've doubtless left out some details, which others will, I am sure, add. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.24.23 (talk) 14:30, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Sources

What if the topic that you are writing about is worthy of having a Wikipedia page, but there aren't enough sources? For Draft:Nitro Type, everything mentioned was self evident just by going to nitrotype.com. Anything that you couldn't learn from there I sourced as well. Nitro Type is a really big site, with millions of races each day, so it seems wrong that it would get declined because of not enough sources. Could you guys maybe reconsider please? Apparently I am not the first to try and write a Wikipedia page on the matter, so it seems like others are running into the same problem. DVORAK Typer (talk) 11:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC) DVORAK Typer (talk) 11:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

HiDVORAK Typer, User DGG declinded your draft, perhaps you contact him directly to clarify what the reasons for the declination might have been. Reasons for the declinations are giving in the infobox on the Draft Page - looks like your draft reads like an advertisement and this is not allowed on Wikipedia. Have a look over here: Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox_or_means_of_promotion. CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:30, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, DVORAK Typer. Indeed you are not the first: many many people who come here do not understand what Wikipedia is and how it works. In order to be a neutral encyclopaedia, Wikipedia is basically not interested in what a subject says about themselves: it is only interested in what people unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject. So, while certain non-controversial factual information may come from Nitro Type's own website, the bulk of any article about it must come from sources wholly unconnected with it, and only such sources contribute to its notability. --ColinFine (talk) 12:02, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, DVORAK Typer. Currently Draft:Nitro Type does not include any Independent sources at all. Such sources Are essential to establish the notability of the topic. All cited sources now are to nitrotype.com, or nitro-type.fandom.com/wiki. Might add that a fan wiki is pretty much never a reliable source here, and simply should not be used. Also the draft as it now stands is far too detailed for the subject. Wikipedia is not a game guide or how-to manual for games or software of any kind. It is also not for promotion. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:09, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Your first sentence ... worthy of having a Wikipedia page, but there aren't enough sources is a contradiction, revealing a mis-understanding. Because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia (a WP:TERTIARY source), it doesn't have articles that are directly about subjects. Instead, it summarizes what independent reliable WP:SECONDARY sources have written about the subject. If those sources do not exist in sufficient number and with sufficient detail and depth, a policy-conformant Wikipedia article cannot exist because it would have no (or insufficient) useful content. There is no concept of "worthy of having a Wikipedia page" as a value judgement (which we would not be worthy to make); it's all about WP:NOTABILITY, as evidenced by sources. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, that all makes sense. But how can a page like this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Middle-earth_characters exist? There are literally no sources, and nothing that could not be learned just by reading Lord Of The Rings. I am literally a huge fan of LOTR, and think it should be allowed to be an article; which it is, but I mean really? However, this journey has actually been in a way encouraging. I had always though that Wikipedia was literally terrible, but it truly is hard to make an article, you guys really care about credibility. DVORAK Typer (talk) 23:10, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

@DVORAK Typer:List of Middle-earth characters is allowed to exist without sources because it consists of links to articles about the characters, each of which has sources. That means each character has been written about enough by people unrelated to the author.—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 14:49, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

delete entry

How do I delete an entry in the history list? 75.170.42.233 (talk) 14:26, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

The only way is to ask an oversighter. See WP:Oversight. --ColinFine (talk) 15:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

submit article for review

Hi,
As a newbie in Wikipedia I have a very basic question, that I seem not to find an answer to. I finished writing an article (in my sandbox) and want to submit it for review so it can be published, but I see no such link/button.

Thanx, Danishom (talk) 14:19, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Danishom, don't worry, please have a close look at Help:Your_first_article#CreateyourDraft ... you just have to add the Submit tag {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft+Publish Changes to submit it. CommanderWaterford (talk) 15:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Danishom, by the time I got there, the button had already been added. I would like to note though, that, as a biography of living person, the article requires inline citations, in order to be accepted. Please consult WP:REFB and add citations to reliable sources for all claims made in it (WP:V). Usedtobecool ☎️ 15:08, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Seconding that without references, User:Danishom/sandbox will be declined. David notMD (talk) 15:15, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hello, Danishom. I have added a header to your sandbox with a submit button. However, I advise you not to pick that button yet, because your draft is unreferenced. Every single claim in a Wikipedia article should be dsourced to a reliable published source; and while it is not compulsory to cite the source for everything, reviewers will probably not accept a draft - especially a biography of a living person - without extensive citation. While your draft is well-written and well laid-out, I suspect you have made the same mistake as countless other new editors, and written from what you know, rather than from the sources. Original research is not permitted in a Wikipedia article, and that includes any information not previously published.

I also note that you have uploaded all the photos in the darft, claiing them all as "own work". In most countries the copyright in a photograph is with the photographer unless there is an agreement to the contrary; so I am a little dubious about the copyright status of some of these. It also makes me wonder if you might have a conflict of interest in writing about this subject. --ColinFine (talk) 15:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Verifiable sources for living person

Hi,

As a first timer, I am not sure how to add to a thread (edit the sources?), so I am opening a new Q. 1. As was suggested by a user, I added a {{AFC submission|||ts=20200518150434|u=Danishom|ns=4}} but it displayed the above but no submit button
2. More important, I am writing a article about a living (89 years old), globally renowned scientist and innovator.
I am told that ALL content will require inline citations to independent reliable sources.
If I am writing about his childhood and his years through WWII, how does one get independent reliable sources? e.g. if the house he lived in was bombarded by the allied forces, do I need a reliable source for that? If he was arrested and jailed by the Czech communist regime, do I need to go into the archives of the judicial system of Czechoslovakia from 1948? Do I need to present a birth certificate to prove that he was born in Budapest in 1931, as appears in the article?
This all seems highly improbable

Thanx Danishom (talk) 15:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Any material for which you can't provide a reliable source should be removed from the draft. Please read Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. The advice you received from the editor who added the submit button was "I advise you not to pick that button yet, because your draft is unreferenced", so your draft will obviously be declined.. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:16, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I have put nowiki tags around the submission template in this question, because your edit had submitted this Teahouse page for AFC review. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:26, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Please I want to reintroduce Tyler L Adam

I want to reintroduce professor Tyler L Adams to wait Wikipedia. I'm looking for someone to review it. Abbas Kwarbai (talk) 13:13, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Abbas Kwarbai: Your draft was deleted for copyright violations. Have you read the note that David notMD left on your talk page? Also if you do have a connection with Adam Tyler or if you are being paid to create the article you must disclose it. See WP:DISCLOSEPAY for more details. REDMAN 2019 Stay at home:Protect the NHS:Save lives (talk) 13:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I haven't been paid to introduce professor Tyler L Adams. He is my mentor who has being helping me on my researches. So, I'm drafting the Article about him which is not correlate to any website write up about him. Abbas Kwarbai (talk) 13:29, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Abbas Kwarbai: Being your current professor, you clearly do have a WP:COI. That's nothing to be ashamed of - just be open about it and follow the instructions at WP:COI to make transparent your personal knowledge of the subject. You can do this by putting a COI declaration on your userpage. Thank you. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:42, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

So yes, you can start over. I recommend you declare your relationship to Adam on your User page and then create/submit a draft via Articles for Creation. The problem with your deleted draft is that you had copied copyright protected content from websites and pasted that into your draft. To succeed, the facts must be true (and referenced), but the wording yours. David notMD (talk) 14:31, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

It is VERY possible that Dr. Adams has not been written about at length by independent sources which can be used as citations, meaning that he does not meet Wikipedia's concept of notability. David notMD (talk) 16:14, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

How to delete a hyperlink in my article that I have put in for review.

How to delete a hyperlink in my article that I have unfortunately put in for review.

Draft:Jules Franck Mondoloni Under the heading Publications - Media - Museum collections - Galleries[edit]

Published books illustrated by Jules Franck Mondoloni: Hello: I don't know how to delete this written below. I wanted to change the hyperlink by deleting then replacing, and this is what now appears in my article.

 ,SortField:!n,SortOrder:0,TemplateParams:(Scenario:,Scope:Default,Size:!n,Source:,Support:)))) Filitosa, 1987
,Scope:Default,Size:!n,Source:,Support:)))) Lumières de granite: la Corse à l'aube de son histoire, 1990

My user name is Reknil43 and my article is Jules Franck Mondoloni I need help with my references too. I am 77 years old and find it a daunting task to understand how to correct my mistakes and, such as above "deleting a hyperlink", as well as creating the references that include the pages references. I mistakenly entered my article to be published too soon. I thought that I could still edit it as I did in the sandbox. Reknil43 (talk) 15:42, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission has been rejected so you can continue to correct it. The best bet would be to delete the section Draft:Jules Franck Mondoloni#Publications - Media - Museum collections - Galleries in its entirety, as it has no references but numerous misplaced external links. You can find advice about references at Help:Referencing for beginners, but you also need to read the link which you have been provided to WP:Notability (people). --David Biddulph (talk) 15:56, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Reknil43:, I made some repairs to your article. Dave Biddulph's advice is good: delete that section for the moment. New editors often try to create large articles, which are harder to pass AFC than smaller ones with good sources. I also removed all the uses of Wikipedia itself and Flickr as sources (see WP:RS) and all the external links to flickr.com, as we do not link to external site in the body of the article. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

The draft suggests you have a large amount of personal/private information about Mondoloni. I see you have properly declared a COI on your user page. A problem remains - information you have about Mondoloni personally, if not published somewhere, cannot be used in the article even if true. I can guess that this applies to details about his education, etc. David notMD (talk) 16:25, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Quote box and copyright infringement

Hi, I am currently working on a poem available at (User:TheBirdsShedTears/sandbox). I want to know that if i add original lines of the poem within Quote box, will it considered a copyright infringement or allowed by the Wikipedia? Thanks TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 17:06, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

hello TheBirdsShedTears, and welcome to Wikipedia. Our guideline on this is at Wikipedia:Quotation, which says: While quotations are an indispensable part of Wikipedia, try not to overuse them. Quotations are loose, ambiguous style that is common in fiction and journalism, and is generally not suited to encyclopedic writing. Long quotations crowd the actual article and distract attention from other information., and The copied material should not comprise a substantial portion of the work being quoted and a long quotation should not be used where a shorter quotation would express the same information. What constitutes a substantial portion depends on many factors, such as the length of the original work, and the importance and relevance of the quoted text to that work. and The quotation must be useful and aid understanding of the subject; irrelevant quotations should be removed.

Also, since this poem is in Urdu, the original will be of value largely to those who know that language. A translation of a few lines might be of value, but it is essential that the translation be of high quality. A published translation from a reliable source of good reputation for translation would be best, but must be attributed to the published translation properly. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:40, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

How to create a page on Wikipedia

How to create a page on Wikipedia Hi. Okay, here is my question: How do you create a page on Wikipedia and I don't mean a user page, I mean a page about a celebrity that is not on Wikipedia.

Kind Regards, Candy:) --Candy luv music (talk) 16:52, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

FYI

 – Merged section below Hillelfrei ^talk 17:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

How to create a page on Wikipedia

How to create a page on Wikipedia Hi. Okay, here is my question: How do you create a page on Wikipedia and I don't mean a user page, I mean a page about a celebrity that is not on Wikipedia.

Kind Regards, Candy luv music 🍭💖🎶 --Candy luv music (talk) 16:56, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Candy luv music! First, take the time to read WP:BASIC, and WP:BLP. If you conclude "Yeah, I have those sources, no problem", move on to WP:YFA and perhaps WP:TUTORIAL. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:07, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Candy luv music!

Creating new articles from a blank start is one of the harder tasks on Wikipedia, perhaps the hardest an inexperienced user is likely to face. In future I urge you to use the Article Wizard to create a draft under the Articles for Creation project. There, an experienced editor will review your draft once you think it is ready. Only when a reviewer approves will the draft be moved to the main article space. This avoids the situation where a deletion is requested soon after the initial version of an article is posted.

Also, please read Wikipedia's Golden Rule and Your First Article, if you have not already done so. The advice there can be very helpful, in my view. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Here are some steps which, when followed, often lead to success in getting an article accepted:

• First, review our guideline on notability, our policy on Verifiability, and our specific guideline on the notability of people. Consider whether your subject clearly meets the standards listed there. Also, check if the topic is already covered, perhaps under a different spelling or in a section of an article about a wider topic. You will waste a lot of time, if you create a new article, and then find that the encyclopedia already has an article about that.
• Second, read how to create Your First Article and referencing for beginners and again consider if you want to go ahead.
• Third, If you have any connection or affiliation with the subject, disclose it in accordance with our guideline on Conflict of interest. If you have been or expect to be paid for making edits, or are making them as part of your job, disclose this according to the strict rules of the Paid-contribution disclosure. This is absolutely required; omitting it can result in you being blocked from further editing.
• Fourth, gather sources. You want independent, professionally published, reliable sources with each discussing the subject in some detail. If you can't find several such sources, stop; an article will not be created! Sources do NOT need to be online, or in English, although it is helpful if at least some are. The "independent" part is vital. Wikipedia does not consider as independent sources such as press releases, or news stories based on press releases, or anything published by the subject itself or an affiliate of the subject. Strictly local coverage is also not preferred. Regional or national newspapers or magazines, books published by mainstream publishers (not self-published), or scholarly journals are usually good. So are online equivalents of these. (Additional sources may verify particular statements but not discuss the subject in detail. But those significant detailed sources are needed first.)
• Fifth, use the article wizard to create a draft under the articles for creation project. This is always a good idea for an inexperienced editor, but in the case of an editor with a conflict of interest it is essential.
• Sixth, use the sources gathered before (and other sources you may find along the way) to write the article. Cite all significant statements to sources. Do not express opinions or judgements, unless they are explicitly attributed to named people or entities, preferably in a direct quotation, and cited to a source. Do not use puffery or marketing-speak. Provide page numbers, dates, authors and titles for sources to the extent these are available. A title is always needed. Submit the draft when you think it is ready for review. Be prepared to wait a while for a review (several weeks or more).
• Seventh, when (well perhaps if) your draft is declined, pay attention to the comments of the reviewer, and correct the draft and resubmit it. During this whole process, if you face any unresolvable editing hurdles, or cannot comprehend any editing issue, feel free to post a request at the Teahouse or the help desk and ask the regulars. Repeat this until the draft passes review.

Congratulations, you have now created a valid Wikipedia article. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Been trying

I've been trying to unsubscribe for years from this. One of your experts helped me write a page at MOMA and then you proceeded to tell me it was an advertisement. I don't know my login,password, etc and want to unsubscribe immediately!  2601:700:4100:26A0:90FF:B04D:5CC6:4433 (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

If you have forgotten your account information, just abandon attempting to regain access to it and abandon your account. There is no way to delete an account or "unsubscribe", for both technical and legal reasons. 331dot (talk) 16:26, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, editor with IP ending in 5CC6:4433]. I am afraid that there is no such thing as a subscription to Wikipedia. I suspect that you created an account, specified an email address, and set up automatic email messages on certain events occurring. The only way to remove those alerts is to log back in to that account and change the preferences. Given that you apparently registered an email with the account, the password could be reset if the user name for the account was known. If you know the name of the article you worked on (and that was deleted) it might be possible to find the name of the account. Or if you know the name of any other article or page that you edited, and the date it was edited, it might be possible to find the user name. But without that, I am afraid there is nothing anyone can do here. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 16:31, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

YHello IP editor. You do not even need to know the Wikipedia user account name. Just go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PasswordReset and type in the email address to which you are getting all these unwanted watchlist notifications. You should then be sent a temporary password. I had to do this the other day for a spare account I rarely use. The message I received was as follows: "Someone (probably you, from IP address xx.xx.xxx.xxx.xxx) requested a reset of your password for Wikipedia (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page>). The following user account is associated with this email address: Username: NM Demo Temporary password:1x2x3x4x5x This temporary password will expire in 7 days.You should log in and choose a new password now. If someone else made this request, or if you have remembered your original password, and you no longer wish to change it, you may ignore this message and continue using your old password."

OK, so with your new temporary password and your account name included in part of the message, just type in the temporary password, then create a new password that you won't immediately forget. Now, having logged in, go to your account 'Preferences' (it's a link right at the top of the page in desktop view), and go to the 'User profile' tab. (Courtesy link). Scroll down to 'Email options', where you will see your email address, and have the option to remove it completely. You will no longer be able to access that account if you forget your new password, but you won't get any more email notifications. To be doubly sure, then go to the Preferences>Notifications tab, where you can deselect all the notification types that send you alerts by email (Link). That should do it. If for some reason you fail to get back in, your only option will be to set up an email Inbox rule at your end to block or delete all messages that include 'Wikipedia' in the name. Perhaps you'd come back and let us know how you get on? All the best, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:47, 18 May 2020 (UTC)     

Please someone should access my publication on draft

This is the biography of Professor Tyler L Adams. Please someone should assist me in accessing it because I tried to follow all Wikipedia rules when I'm publication it. Abbas Kwarbai (talk) 19:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Please give me a few moments to make some changes. Galendalia _{CVU Member} \ ^{Chat Me Up} 19:15, 18 May 2020 (UTC) _{TeaHouse Host}

@Abbas Kwarbai: - I have put your page up for speedy deletion on the Copyright violations, once again. You are highly encouraged to learn how to create an article Wikipedia:Yfa and the proper format Wikipedia:Mos, as well as Biographies of living people Wikipedia:Blp. I have also noticed you submitted this earlier today and a lot of questions have been posted to the teahouse and on your talk page which need to be addressed and discussed prior to trying to create this article. Also remember, everything on Wikipedia is everyone's, not just yours. Therefore this is not your publication so please keep that in mind. Once you get a good grasp of the way in which this can be accomplished, please let us know and we can assist further. Galendalia _{CVU Member} \ ^{Chat Me Up} 19:30, 18 May 2020 (UTC) _{TeaHouse Host}

My draft is deleted immediately because I have violeted copy right. But this draft is a new brand. So please I want to know where my draft is been copy. Meanwhile, which website is my draft related interms of copy right. Abbas Kwarbai (talk) 20:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC) (Pasted from my talk page) Galendalia _{CVU Member} \ ^{Chat Me Up} 20:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Abbas Kwarbai: - Please keep the conversations here and not on my talk page, please. Again, you have to paraphrase the information, and just changing one word in a sentence copied from a source is not paraphrasing. That is still a copyright violation. Again, I encourage you to completely go through the links posted throughout the teahouse in response to the article and also to answer the questions posed to you. Thanks! Galendalia _{CVU Member} \ ^{Chat Me Up} 20:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC) _{TeaHouse Host}

Well thank you for your feedback but actually I wrote this article on my WhatsApp and later copied it from there to Wikipedia. So that implies is plagiarism? Please have tried all my possible way to do it but couldn't. I only know my draft might be wrong but I have subjected and look into numerous wiki bio and draft this one. Please the kind of assist I need from is to directly tell me how do it please.

@Abbas Kwarbai: I am not super privy to the details of this draft but from what I have heard it is because you have copied and pasted over material from your sources, which is not allowed. This doesn't have anything to do with where you originally drafted the article. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:53, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Abbas Kwarbai if indeed you wrote the online version which your Wikipedia draft seems to be copied from, you have two options. 1) post a release on the https://tyadamsphd.com/) page, releasing that text under the CC-BY-SA free license so that anyone in the world may use the text subject to that license. Then there will be no copyright issue on Wikipedia. 2) Re-do the text in a significantly way, so that the facts are much the same, but the writing is so different that it would not be a copy even if someone else had written the first text. (#2 is also the proper procedure if you did not write the first text. If the first text copiewd significant content from its sources, again do #2)

Once one of those is done,. we can deal with formatting issues, but the copyright must be dealt with fist, one way or the other. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:55, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I have a question

When I tried to edit an article(bishop Aukland) to add a notable person it got reverted. So what is the criteria for a notable person? 1st Username (talk) 22:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@1st Username: The invisible comment about the subject you deleted from the article has a link to Wikipedia's guidelines for what makes a person notable. Please refrain from also editing other people's comments on the talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:59, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

(Edit conflict; I didn't see Tenryuu's answer until after I posted this) As is clearly explained on the talk page message that you deleted, that consensus is that the subject doesn't meet our WP:BIO notability requirement. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:05, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

User pages

I just wrote and submitted my first article for Anthony Radetic. Wikipedia said that I should move the page from user:Lipav123/sandbox/draft: AnthonyRadetic to draft:AnthonyRadtic, so I did. When I click on my user name of Lipav123, it continues to say that I don't have a user page. I am confused. I registered under Lipav123 and created the article. Lipav123 (talk) 22:53, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello! In order to create a user page under your username, just click on your account name in the top right corner. This will bring you to your user page, which doesn't exist yet. To create your user page, just follow the instructions and type in the box below, and submit it. This should create your user page, and you can go back and change and customize it to your delight! Le Panini (talk) 23:26, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

After typing in the box, you have created your user page, so now your user page is asking to create your own user page. Happy editing(?) Le Panini (talk) 23:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Luisinho Gamer

Luís Henrique Correia Ferreia, mais conhecido como,Luisinho Gamer,(Faro,2 de Março de 2003) é um Youtuber,estudante de GPSI,poderá ser um grande youtuber português

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Luisinhogamer (talk • contribs)

@Luisinhogamer: This is English Wikipedia. Please write in English, and remember that we are not here to help you promote yourself. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:47, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

If you want to ask for help at the Portuguese Wikipedia, you may do so here: [1] RudolfRed (talk) 00:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft: IXL Learning

Resolved

 – Title has been renamed to desired name. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:04, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello! I'm writing an article about IXL Learning, a very notable company that owns multiple sources, including ABCya, Quia Books, IXL, Quia Web, and a couple of others I can't name off of the top of my head. But I accidentally called the Draft IXL (Website) instead of IXL Learning. How do I make the switch? Thank you for your time. Le Panini (talk) 23:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC) Le Panini (talk) 23:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Le Panini: Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for wanting to add to it. Don't worry about the name for now. Work on the content of the draft. After the draft is reviewed, it can be renamed as part of moving it to main space, RudolfRed (talk) 23:40, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Le Panini, RudolfRed, To avoid confusion, I moved the draft to Draft:IXL Learning, as requested. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:47, 18 May 2020 (UTC) @Le Panini:} DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:47, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Look over new article

Hey y'all, working on creating Draft:Snoqualmie_Valley_Record and would love a look over. This is my first real article and would love a look over. Hope everyone is having a great Monday! NoahRiffe (talk) 20:23, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@NoahRiffe: Welcome to the Teahouse. I would start by addressing the concern that Robert McClenon has with the sources being used; he would prefer you find reliable sources that are not associated with the newspaper. From a copyediting point of view the word "in" is inappropriately capitalised in some places, like The newspaper was again sold after just 4 years to King County Journal Newspapers, In December 2000 [...] (emphasis added). Be wary of your tone, as phrases like The paper traces its beginnings back [...] do not fit the voice the encyclopedia conveys. I'd opt for something more neutral, like "The paper originated from [...]" —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Thank you so much! I appreciate your help and dedication to Wiki!!

Copy and paster error: merging draft with an article published in main space

Resolved

 – Draft's history merged to the article by DESiegel. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

I created Draft:The Black Caucus at Penn State but I did not mean to publish the draft. I then tried to delete the draft and publish directly into the main space the same article, The Black Caucus at Penn State; however, I now have the error that the draft already exists. I requested that the page history of the draft be merged into the main space article. I got the message that an Administrator has to review the merge request. How long will this take? J.AE.W23 (talk) 22:11, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello! Unfortunately, I'm not sure. Thousands of requests come in and out, and there's a big wait for stuff like these. At the max, it could take six weeks, but that's unlikely. If I'm wrong, someone else will correct me. Le Panini (talk) 22:26, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello J.AE.W23 A history merge shouldn't take too long. I'll try to do it later tonight, if no one else has gotten to the matter. That does not settle what happens to the article, or draft, however. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:15, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

How long does it take for a new page to get reviewed and published?

How long does it take for a new page to get reviewed and published? Specifically Draft:Terrence Barnich. Pizzaman787 (talk) 20:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Your draft has not been submitted for review yet? Theroadislong (talk) 20:47, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Pizzaman787, welcome to the Teahouse. I have added a box with a submit button. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:55, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Pizzaman787: When your draft is ready and you submit it, you'll see a yellow box on your draft that will say something like: "This may take 6 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 1,392 pending submissions waiting for review." GoingBatty (talk) 22:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

FYI - It's not a queue. Reviewers look at the pile of drafts and select the article they want to review next. So, can be days, weeks, months. David notMD (talk) 01:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

I created sections. Currently, your refs are 'naked' URLs. Fix those before submitting. David notMD (talk) 01:49, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Recent Changes Error

Dear fellow Wikipedians, As you can see in my contributions, I have not made any edits. My IP address changed, and that has caused my account to stop working. Can anyone explain? But just basically I'm not new btw.

I was looking at the recent changes page, although I've noticed something which I think might be a bug. Whenever I click "view new changes", in the new changes was a supposedly new edit, which was in fact one that had appeared before. This prompted me to think that the user was doing the same edit over and over again, although looking at the page history, there had been no edit warring and only one of that edit, even there were clearly two edits in the recent changes.

I'm not sure if this is a glitch or just me, so can another person please just tell me what's going on? Thanks, XLK123 (talk) 05:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi XLK123, welcome to the Teahouse. Your account was created eight minutes before this post so I'm not sure what you refer to. "View new changes" at Special:RecentChanges just means that the list is updated without reloading the whole page. Already displayed changes are not removed unless they have dropped out of the selected number of changes (or less likely the selected time period). There should be a horizontal line between the new and already shown changes, but a few of the new changes may appear below the line. This appears to be an error. Maybe it only uses seconds and the English Wikipedia is too busy for that. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:30, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

submit article

How do I submit my draft article JKDonehue (talk) 12:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC) JKDonehue (talk) 12:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

How do I submit my draft article : International Law of Maritime piracy. It is completed and I am ready to submit it I can find a 'submit for review' button I have tired the source editor ; writing in {{AFC submission|||ts=20200518123308|u=JKDonehue|ns=4}} but that did not seem to work. JKDonehue (talk) 12:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

• Hi JKDonehue I have put a {{draft}} template on the page so you now have a blue button to submit (remeber to publish changes after pressing) Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:40, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Now at Draft:International Law of Maritime Piracy. I recommend the creator address the comments added to the draft while waiting for a review. David notMD (talk) 13:13, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Comment: Draft:International Law of Maritime Piracy fails to make it clear, in its opening sentence or even in its lead, what it is about. Is it about all laws against piracy? Or about such laws enacted since the establishment of the United Nations? Or about such laws currently in force? Or about some particular law? Also, the diagram File:UNCLOS Maritime Zones .png is misleading. The distance is measured to the nearest land, not to the first land that is reached by travelling westward. Maproom (talk) 07:04, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

New article writing

I am an employee at Success Point College. I am one of the Success Point College's team members. They granted me to write the Success Point College article. I am very new at Wikipedia. I want to keep my college title as Success Point College. I prepared a sandbox content. When I moved to the article it is deleted. Please guide me on what do's or do not's. Also, guide me on how can I write a fresh article for our college. Abhishekolkata (talk) 08:14, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Abhishekolkata Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you are an employee of the College, you must review and formally comply with the paid editing policy, a Wikipedia Terms of Use requirement. You should also review conflict of interest. Successfully writing a new Wikipedia article is the absolute hardest thing to do on Wikipedia, it is even harder when one has a conflict of interest. What you wrote was moved to Draft:Success Point College for further work, because it did not currently meet Wikipedia standards.

You seem to have a common misconception about Wikipedia; Wikipedia is not a place for organizations to tell the world about themselves. This is an encyclopedia, which has articles that summarize only what independent reliable sources with significant coverage say about subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. Wikipedia is not interested in what a subject says about itself, even if only to say that it exists and describes it offerings, as what you wrote does. In order for you to succeed in writing a draft about your own college, you essentially need to forget everything you know about it, everything on the college website, and everything the college says about itself, and only write based on the content of independent sources that have chosen on their own to give your college significant coverage. This does not include brief mentions, routine announcements, or staff interviews. Wikipedia is also not concerned with whether or not a potential article subject wants an article or not, nor are we (frankly) concerned with what any person has been tasked with doing. If you just want to tell the world about your college, you should use social media, your own website, or some alternative forum where that is permitted. If you truly feel you can write a draft about your college that only summarizes what others say about it, you should use Articles for Creation to submit such a draft. Feel free to show your superiors this message. 331dot (talk) 09:05, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

The draft is at Draft:Success Point College, but it is not yet fit for submission for AFC review as you have no references to published reliable sources independent of the subject to demonstrate its notability. As you are an employee you need to read about conflict of interest, and you need to make the mandatory declaration of paid editing. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Bio page

Hi, How can someone create a bio page for himself? 196.75.28.158 (talk) 09:59, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

They shouldn't, see the autobiography policy. Wikipedia does not have "bio pages", it has articles written by independent editors, summarizing what independent reliable sources say about persons that are shown to meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person. Wikipedia is not social media where people tell the world about themselves. If you truly feel you can write a neutral encyclopedia article about yourself(technically possible, but a rare thing, I've never seen it happen successfully) you should read Your First Article and use Articles for Creation.

If you create an account, you get to have a user page, where you can introduce yourself to the Wikipedia community in the context of your Wikipedia editing or use. It isn't a place for one to tell anything and everything about themselves, though. 331dot (talk) 10:04, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

New Author Entry Notable Enough for Wikipedia?

I am a chef, teacher, and author - and have published two books. I would like to include these and my biography on wikipedia. I am wondering if an author or two books passes the "notability" muster or not. Warren Laine-Naida (talk) 06:37, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Warren Laine-Naida: Welcome to the Teahouse. Generally, no, an author with two books isn't notable. Can you provide reliable, independent sources that cover you significantly? This is before we take your conflict of interest and writing about yourself (which is extremely discouraged) into account, which you would have to declare on the article's talk page and on your user page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! I thought as much. I appreciate you taking the time to answer. Warren — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warren Laine-Naida (talk • contribs) 06:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Meanwhile, suggest you remove you website addresses from your User page, as that is considered promotional. Wikipedia is not social media. David notMD (talk) 10:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

New Article Advice? Any way to expedite publishing?

Hello! I am working on creating Draft: Todor Georgiev and I would love it if someone could take a look at it and give me some tips. It is my first full article. Also is there any way to expedite its approval and publication? Thank you! Elenatheodora (talk) 09:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Elenatheodora. I went through your draft, and these are some tips I have to give:

• If possible, use English sources, which are more convenient for most editors. However, if there is no English alternative to a non-English source, it’s okay. For more information, see Wikipedia:RSUE and Wikipedia:ANNOTATION
• If possible, please get more information about personal life (age, education, where he worked before (if he did work elsewhere before Adobe) etc.). Note that this information should come only from reliable sources like news articles about this person.

Besides these, I can’t tell whether this person is notable enough to have an article (because he seems to be the creator of many revolutionary technologies, but there are no mainstream newspapers which have written about him).
RedBulbBlueBlood9911 (talk) 10:25, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

I want to nominate Professor Peter C Terry for entry

Peter is Professor of Sport Psychology at the University of Southern Queensland, where is also Dean of the Graduate Research School. He has also ended 9 Olympics as a consultant. Further details will be supplied if he is considered a suitable candidate, which I sincerely hope he will. Jshunter40 (talk) 11:14, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Jshunter40 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you feel that a potential subject merits a Wikipedia article, you should just go ahead and create one. Article subjects are not "nominated", they are just written by editors. Please understand that a Wikipedia article should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about a subject, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability(in this case, the definition of a notable person). Succeeding at writing a new article is challenging, if you don't feel comfortable doing it, you can make a request at Requested Articles, but there is a backlog of literally thousands upon thousands of request, and your request there might not be acted on for a long time, if at all. The fastest way to see an article written about this professor is to do it yourself. You may wish to learn more about Wikipedia first, by using the new user tutorial and editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get an idea of how Wikipedia operates. Reading Your First Article will help as well. 331dot (talk) 11:26, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

How to add an image in infobox person and the title of the article?

I am unable to add an image in infobox person and title of my article is my username but i want to givee it an another name,how to change it? Tetradelectro (talk) 11:29, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Tetradelectro, and welcome to the Teahouse. I suppose you refer to User:Tetradelectro/sandbox.

• First, do not worry about the name. After you click the "submit" blue button requesting a review, the page will be moved to Draft space, and the name can be changed at that time or later.
• Second, before you can add an image to the infobox, you must upload it to Wikimedia commons, see Wikipedia:Uploading images.
• But more important than either of those is the issue of notability. Wikipedia only has articles about notable topics. The normal way to demonstrate notability is to cite detailed coverage of \the topic (in this case the person) in independent published reliable sources. Sales numbers, view counts or numbers of followers, no matter how large, do not suffice to establish notability. No amount of editing or formatting will convert a non-notable topic into a notable one. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 11:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

One more quick question...

Hi, so, my last question was answered quickly, so I decided to ask one more. I was wondering, how do I clear my notifications page? Thanks, Dragonlover21 (talk) 23:34, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

You have asked the same question at the "help desk". Please look for answers there, not here; and in future avoid asking the same question in more than one place. -- Hoary (talk) 02:05, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry.

Dragonlover21 (User talk: Dragonlover21|talk]]) —Preceding undated comment added 12:21, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Translators community

Hello! Is there a community of russian-english (or english-russian) translators?--DonGuess (talk) 12:04, 19 May 2020 (UTC) DonGuess (talk) 12:04, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Translators are listed at Category:Translators ru-en and Category:Translators en-ru, also Wikipedia:Translators available#Russian-to-English and Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Translators. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:23, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

What qualifies as a "Popular" youtuber?

In my short time patrolling Recent changes, I've fixed many a case of people advertising their own youtube channel on an article about a videogame. Usually it will include a few content creators that are popularly identified as "Popular". For example, in one of my cases it was in the terraria article, It had Chippy Gaming and Khaios, two relatively popular youtubers, along with another youtube channel which matched the name of the person who made the edit, which i will not name for privacy purposes. So this brings me to my question, in order to talk about certain video games, one must talk about it's community, which often includes "Popular Youtubers". But that term is relative, one person may think that a youtuber is popular while another may not, and there are also no sources to cite saying that someone is popular except subscriber counts and other oft referred to counts of popularity. But until the community decides on a proper definition for the term "Popular" this will always be relative. So is there already a definition? Or do we as wikipedians need to decide upon this? Thanks, JazzClam (talk) 21:22, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

JazzClam Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. There is not a specific definition of a notable "YouTuber", so the general definition of a notable person would apply. Subscriber counts or viewership are easily gamed so they aren't used as a notability metric. 331dot (talk) 21:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Indeed JazzClam, "popular" (which is indeed hard to define, and harder to prove) is not really relevant here at Wikipedia. Instead we look for "notable" performers, whether on YouTube or on any other medium. That depends on coverage in reliable sources, not on audience numbers, subscribers, views, or any other measure of popularity. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:39, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Ah, Template:UIDESiegell so notability is what matters, so if they have done something important or famous? Such as perhaps having coded the modding API for a certain game, or having made it? JazzClam (talk) 09:20, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@JazzClam: Well, sort of but not really – even if they coded the API for WoW they would not be notable enough for a stand-alone article if there wasn't significant coverage about them in independent reliable sources. (And if there were such coverage and an article about them, they would be described as a coder rather than a YouTuber – a notable person who also creates YouTube videos would probably not be presented primarily as a YouTuber.) If someone has created a series of YouTube videos with game descriptions, for instance, they might be notable for that, but only if secondary sources have talked about it. I'm thinking about the many YouTube channels that exist with playthroughs and rule descriptions of board games, here (so not the same thing but similar) ; many of those are really good and very popular, but they still wouldn't be considered notable for Wikipedia's purposes. One important facet of notability is that it is permanent, which popularity is not! Hope that makes sense.

Btw, when you ping someone, it doesn't work if you only put their user name within curly brackets – see the introduction to H:PING for more information about how you write a ping. I like {{yo|Username}} because it is short and super-quick to type on a keyboard, but as you can see in the help page, there are other commands you can use as well. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 09:47, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Ah, so generally, unless a youtuber is particularly notable, they should not be included, and since in youtube, and in gaming spheres in general, notability is basically the popularity of a youtuber, they should generally not be included? JazzClam (talk) 12:37, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

I agree – I don't think most youtubers would be considered notable at all. notability is basically the popularity of a youtuber Only in the general language – Wikipedia's definition of "notability" doesn't include popularity. Notability for a youtuber is determined in the same way as for any other individual (with the exception of some people who are covered by one of the specific notability criteria) : if reliable independent sources have written about them in depth, they are notable, otherwise not. A youtuber who is not popular and doesn't have lots of subscribers or views could still be notable if they have plenty of coverage in reliable independent sources, and vice versa. --bonadea contributions talk 14:13, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

When will my article be reviewed and approved?

My article Draft:Kwonjungho was reviewed on the 14th of April. I have since made major edits to it but they have still not been reviewed for approval. Is there any way I can know when it will be reviewed/approved? Thank you! FayeHamblettJ (talk) 10:31, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

FayeHamblettJ You need to resubmit your draft for review in order for it to be considered; click the "Resubmit" button on the screen in the most recent decline message. 331dot (talk) 10:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Before you resubmit I suggest you delete Selected group exhibitions, as none of that is referenced, and also improve the format of the references. David notMD (talk) 14:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:IXL Learning

I want to add an image of the IXL Learning logo like the other company articles have. Can somebody help and or guide me through this process? I tried to study how to do so but it's still unclear to me. Le Panini (talk) 04:06, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Le Panini: First question: is the image copyright-free or does it meet our non-free use criteria? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:08, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Well, I tried uploading an image that I found that would fit the draft well, but it was declined. I've done this before on my Edgenuity article, so I don't understand what makes an image copyright-free. Le Panini (talk) 04:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

The image use policy can be found here. If it's the logo of a company it is most likely copyrighted and unfit for Wikipedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Actually, company logos often are used in Wikipedia, as non-free content. One of the conditions of that use is that they must be used in an article, and cannot be used in a draft. So once your draft is accepted, Le Panini, you will probably be able to upload the logo to Wikipedia (not Commons), and use it in the article; but you mustn't upload the logo while it is in draft. See LOGO. --ColinFine (talk) 09:10, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

I thought it was some weird condition like that. How do I remove the images from the Wikipedia commons then? Le Panini (talk) 14:28, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Thanks for the clarification! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:01, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

What exactly to change?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hassan_Mohamed_Esufally This person has been featured in multiple newspapers (with an independent editorial team) in Sri Lanka, Australia, and the Philippines. He has also been featured in multiple televisions interviews, magazines and is a notable public figure in Sri Lanka. I have included 24 links to his achievements and stature. What exactly would I need to change to get the article approved? ( I included links from reputable newspapers such as daily mirror, Sunday times, etc) Do I remove the links from youtube/social media? Add more above the line media? There are lots more links I can include. If you simply google his name lots of articles come up. If one of the editors could help me edit this so it gets approved that would be sincerely appreciated :) HandR12 (talk) 10:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@HandR12: While I can't speak to how reliable and independent the sources are (the one thing I can say is interviews are primary sources, which are not as preferred as secondary sources), I agree with DGG's evaluation that the draft is quite promotional. Get rid of phrases like in history and accomplished, as those are terms usually used to promote a subject. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Population Borneo

Resolved

 – Not a question for the Teahouse; directed to relevant link. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:09, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

What is the population of Borneo?  82.217.24.162 (talk) 13:52, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Please see Borneo#Demographics.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Arjin

 2409:4064:2EAA:2943:D47A:E0E5:F81E:D097 (talk) 15:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Do you have a question about using and editing Wikipedia? --David Biddulph (talk) 15:51, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia Entry - How To Question

Good Afternoon:

Since there is not currently a Wikipedia page for my 22 year radio broadcast career, I would like to begin the process. What is the procedure for creating this? Can someone assist? I worked in the following markets: New York, Dallas, Houston and Tampa.

Thank you!

Dan Stevens

Email: (Redacted)  108.46.35.55 (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. You may begin the process to create an article if you meet the criteria outlined in WP:BASIC User:Zoozaz1 17:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Actually, creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged - please read WP:YOURSELF. (And note that a Wikipedia article about yourself might not be in your best interests per WP:FAMOUS). Hillelfrei ^talk 17:52, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

How to publish a new article

Resolved

 – Published. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 18:33, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I have drafted an article in my sandbox, and I would like to know how I can now proceed with creating a new article on Wikipedia using the contents in my sandbox. User:Ashaw315/sandbox Thank you very much! Ashaw315 (talk) 14:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse Ashaw315 I have moved your draft to the correct location, added a submit button and did a bit of copy editing for WP:MOS Good luck. Theroadislong (talk) 14:14, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:Cameron Martin (artist). David notMD (talk) 14:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

This article is a done deal, cleaned up, sourced and published (by Theroadislong).ThatMontrealIP (talk) 18:31, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Vintage Actor's Pictures

Hello! I'm JazzClam, but you can call me Jazz, Clam, anything really. I was looking around Recent Changes and somehow found myself on an article about Ken Osmond, the actor who played Eddie Haskell on Leave it to Beaver who sadly died on the 18th, and I saw that the picture on the top of the page is Osmond, Circa 1962. So is the picture meant to be updated? or is the picture meant to represent the version of Osmond, or any actor really, that most people come to the article looking for? That being them in their prime? Thanks, JazzClam (talk) 12:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

It seems reasonable to have a photo from the time that he was best known, but if you have an alternative suggestion the place for discussion would be the article talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:02, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@JazzClam:@David Biddulph: There's a more recent photo at the bottom. But David's advice is always sound in any case. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:08, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

New article: Draft:Lhouette

Hi All!

I hope you are all safe and well! I have submitted a new article for Lhouette https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lhouette. I am hoping I have done the page correctly. I have announced that I am paid on my Talk page by my company and Lhouette but wasn't sure if I need to do this on the article also.

Loisspencertracey (talk) 18:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC) Loisspencertracey (talk) 18:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

You haven't actually submitted the draft for review yet and before you do you will need to find a substantial number of reliable independent sources to support all of the unsourced content per WP:BLP Pleae also note they will need to pass WP:NARTIST. Theroadislong (talk) 19:02, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Theroadislong. I thought I had published the page? I have checked with both WP:BLP and WP:NARTIST and I think it should match them to its best ability.

Loisspencertracey (talk) 19:15, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:Lhouette. "Publish changes" means that you are saving your edits. Wikipedia uses "Publish" instead of "Save" because the place you are saving it to can be seen by other editors. The draft is not yet submitted. I see that you have properly declared paid on your User page. Much of the content needs references. David notMD (talk) 19:47, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you David notMD. I have added references and also links to notable Wiki pages. Loisspencertracey (talk) 20:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Adding character to list, help?

Denkichu (talk) 19:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I was going browsing through the list of dragons in film and television, and there's one dragon missing from the list. I'd like to add but I don't know how to do that. The only thing I can edit is the source, and I'm not gonna do that, messing things up. So what to do?

@Denkichu: Welcome to Wikipedia. If you're not comfortable with the editing, you can make the suggested addition on the aritcle's talk page. If you want to learn how to edit, try the interactive learning game at WP:ADVENTURE. RudolfRed (talk) 20:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Page for Marvin Chun?

I am a new wikipedia-er, and I think Marvin Chun meets the criteria for a page. I have some experience with professor pages (as a user), and his notability is greater than many others with pages. He has over 30k research citations (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=mNT0MKIAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao) and is in a senior administrative position at a notable university. Is Marvin Chun Wikipedia Page worthy? What are some good resources for going about making a page for him? Thanks (and sorry if this isn't the right place for this)! Lukasrobertcorey (talk) 06:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Lukasrobertcorey:, welcome! For now, see: Wikipedia: Notability (academics). I'm sure another helpful and friendly Teahouse volunteer will have something more to add. 107.15.157.44 (talk) 07:14, 19 May 2020 (UTC) ... and yes, this is a fine place for this.

@Lukasrobertcorey:, we never call ourselves wikipedia-ers. We call ourselves wikipedians, or WP:EDIANS. Eumat114 formerly TLOM (Message) 07:27, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@107.15.157.44: Thanks! Is this how I reply? (I hope it is). I believe he meets criteria 1, 3, 5, 6, and 8 (http://www.marvinchun.com/files/Chun_vita.pdf). I'm a little intimidated by the process of starting a page. I should first make it in my sandbox right? I need an image, but probably one nobody really owns? I should read a lot before I start I assume. Also, I will use wikipedians from now on. Thanks for the correction Lukasrobertcorey(talk)

@Lukasrobertcorey:, please sign your messages using 4 tildes> ~~~~ By the way you can'r reply to IP addresses in this way but the procedure is otherwise the same (so you can notify me with {{re|Eumat114}}. Anyway the IP editor has said much. If in doubt, you can create a draft and let us see. (I'll check on this soon.) Thanks, and happy editing! Eumat114 formerly TLOM (Message) 07:31, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Lukasrobertcorey: Starting an article from scratch is considered the most difficult thing to do for beginner wikipedians; but, it looks like you've overcome the difficult 'notability' problem, so don't be intimidated by the process. Images uploaded do indeed need to be copyright-free (with exceptions). There's not a lot to read, but WP: Your first article & WP: Referencing for beginners are usually recommended (you can probably skip them). The best way to start is to ... start! When questions or problems arise, you're always welcome back. Btw, {{re}} actually does notify me (because I'm special?). 107.15.157.44 (talk) 08:59, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Are you sure {{re}} notifies you? At WP:AIV I can never notify IPs because they are anonymous. Eumat114 formerly TLOM (Message) 13:15, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Eumat114: I do get a notification banner whenever something is added to my talk page, but I'm not sure that {{re}} generates them. Now that I've checked, it looks like some sort of 'talkback' gadget puts a message on my talk page, which creates the message notification (?). 107.15.157.44 (talk) 19:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

{{re}} is a redirect to {{reply to}}, and the documentation at Template:Reply to states "IP addresses are only notified if you post to their user talk page." GoingBatty (talk) 21:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Joe Tacopina - Template Message Box Removal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Tacopina

Can the template message box be removed as soon as possible, I have tried everything. Need Help! 2604:2000:1303:560F:DC79:51F4:1AC1:158B (talk) 20:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Are you also IP address 100.35.70.184? You don't have any contribution to Joe Tacopina on this IP. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. The main template notice really needs to stay there until someone gets around to addressing the issues highlighted by it. There are many unsupported statements, each of which need inline citations to permit verification. For some unknown reason, IP 100.35.70.184 has removed the individual 'citation needed' templates without actually doing anything about addressing the underlying issues of absence of citations. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

How do I change the name of a draft article I am writing?

How do I change the name of a draft article I am writing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hassan_Mohamed_Esufally

How do I change the draft name of this article? I added the subject's middle name but I want to remove it now and change the title to "Hassan Esufally". I would genuinely appreciate your help :) HandR12 (talk) 18:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@HandR12: The article was rejected declined. I would wait until the article is accepted before worrying about changing the name. If it is, you can easily move it to rename it.TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Actually "Declined" rather than "Rejected" (which is more severe), but the draft needs work before resubmitting. As Tim noted, name changes are not difficult. David notMD (talk) 19:39, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Also, you were asked on your Talk page if you either have a personal connection to Mr. Esufally, or are being paid or otherwise compensated for creating this article. If neither, please state that on your Talk page. If either, address on your User page, per WP:COI or WP:PAID. David notMD (talk) 19:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Help editing the article I wrote

FYI

 – Section merged. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

How do I get someone to look at my draft article before I submit again?

I recently received this reply to my question which was really appreciated. I have attached it below.

In reference to this, I have taken out the phrases "in history" and "accomplished". I wanted to also if I can "chat" to an experienced editor who can have a look at the article before I submit it again. How would I do this? If someone can help me with this and also tell me how I can use my talk page to get the assistance that would be appreciated. What else can I include/exclude to get this article approved?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hassan_Mohamed_Esufally This person has been featured in multiple newspapers (with an independent editorial team) in Sri Lanka, Australia, and the Philippines. He has also been featured in multiple televisions interviews, magazines and is a notable public figure in Sri Lanka. I have included 24 links to his achievements and stature. What exactly would I need to change to get the article approved? ( I included links from reputable newspapers such as daily mirror, Sunday times, etc) Do I remove the links from youtube/social media? Add more above the line media? There are lots more links I can include. If you simply google his name lots of articles come up. If one of the editors could help me edit this so it gets approved that would be sincerely appreciated :) HandR12 (talk) 10:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@HandR12: While I can't speak to how reliable and independent the sources are (the one thing I can say is interviews are primary sources, which are not as preferred as secondary sources), I agree with DGG's evaluation that the draft is quite promotional. Get rid of phrases like in history and accomplished, as those are terms usually used to promote a subject. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

 HandR12 (talk) 21:25, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Citations on Religious subjects

Are there any policy pages explaining how to find appropriate citations for articles on religion? Would we cite religious scholars? How do you destinguish froma Reliable sourceand an unreliable one. I'm not that up-to-date regarding the academic study of religion in general, so I'm looking for some information on how to write articles on it. By the way, is there any way to search just Wikipedia Policy pages? In other words I was looking for religious policy but what I ran a search all I got was normal articles. Thanks – Chrisvacc - ✆ 19:29, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Anyone? – Chrisvacc - ✆ 20:15, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) with your appeal. Hello, Chrisvacc, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid I don't know the answer to your first question: possibly if you ask at WikiProject Religion somebody may be able to advise - put a question on the talk page, if the project pages don't have the information you need.

As to your second question: you need to search the "Wikipedia" WP:namespace. If you pick magnifying glass in the search box, it will take you to a more general search page, where you can select which namespaces to look at. On the other hand, if you are looking for policy or explanation of a particular term, it is often worth trying to search the term with "WP:" on the front - for example, when I linked to "Namespace" above. --ColinFine (talk) 20:23, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Chrisvacc: If you don;t get an answer here, try asking at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Religion RudolfRed (talk) 20:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Alright thanks @RudolfRed:, @ColinFine: - Chrisvacc - ✆ 20:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

And @ColinFine: - what do you mean there was an edit conflict with my appeal? – Chrisvacc - ✆ 20:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Chrisvacc, I mean that when I hit "Publish changes", it gave me an Edit conflict, which surprised me a little because we were far from the bottomo of the page, where most changes happen. It turned out to be because you had added the line saying "Anyone" since I had last refreshed the page, so that was what I was conflicting with. --ColinFine (talk) 22:25, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh yea lol. I posted my question then a few minutes later two people posted theirs – Chrisvacc - ✆ 22:26, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

can someone please tell me about wikiprojects

I would like to know how wiki- projects work. I also like to now which projects are bad and why HISTORIAN (talk) 19:41, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Andrewhistory: Welcome to Wikipedia. You can learn about how projects work here: Wikipedia:WikiProject. What do you mean by what projects are bad? RudolfRed (talk) 19:52, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Andrewhistory: If you've not discovered them yet, the rather technical-looking 'Assessment' sections of WikiProjects are a really great way for a keen historian like you to find articles that would benefit most from some tender, loving care and some skillful editing. At Wikipedia:WikiProject History the colourful table shown here allows you to find articles of different quality assessment. Short 'Stub' artciles, especially those deemed of greatest importance are the ones most usefully improved. Just click on the numbers in the relevant cells to see a list of corresponding articles, and maybe one or two will take your fancy. (As an aside, I was quite surprised to see that so far, of your 220+ contributions here, just 26 have been to actual articles, with most being to list your own personal history interests in your sandbox.) Hopefully, you might find one of the many WikiProject assessment charts a really good way for you to get stuck in to some good, productive editing. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:32, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Andrewhistory: see also Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-04-01/WikiProject report.--Moxy 🍁 22:47, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

My Draft is declined. Please help me to improve my draft.

Resolved

 – Published at Jitendra Kumar Soni as notable civil servant, who has received national awards. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 00:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

My Draft:Jitendra_Soni is declined. Please help me to improve my draft. Pkpunjab (talk) 11:02, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Pkpunjab: Unfortunately, the draft doesn't demonstrate why Dr. Jitendra Kumar Soni is notable, at least in the eyes of Wikipedia. Please read WP:GNG for a better understanding of what makes a subject notable. For example, rather than listing his books, you'd need to show that they are notable, such as by including independent reviews in the media. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:01, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

• AaqibAnjum, on 26 March, you declined this, saying "Submission appears to be a test edit". How did it, or how does it, appear to be a test edit? You also wrote "Passes WP:GNG but fails WP:Layout and WP:Tone". I agree with you on tone, and you and Timtempleton are free to argue over WP:GNG. What was/is the problem with layout? -- Hoary (talk) 22:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear Hoary, I need to re-check the earlier version of article on my laptop to see exactly that what made me regard it as a test edit. The creating editor posted the same message on my talk page which has been answered by Toddy1 mentioning related issues like Layout and Tone. I'll need some time to see the test issue exactly. Regards Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 22:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

New User with company name

I did not know how to report this, so posting here with hope that an Administrator will take action. User:Bestproductsguide joined today and is spamming a ref to the "Best Product Guide" into articles (Vitamin C, others). All that deleted as product spam but the user should be advised to change name. David notMD (talk) 01:22, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@David notMD: I think adding the template of admin help along with a relevant message on the user's talk page may help rightly. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 01:26, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@David notMD: You can add {{uw-username}} if you want to the editor's user talk page, or you can post about it at WP:UAA depending upon how egregious the violation is and how likely you think it is that the user will respond to a "warning". Lots of editors will simply change their username when it's pointed out to them that it's a problem, but some never respond and end up getting WP:SOFTBLOCKed anyway. Note, UAA and soft blocking is uually only for simple username violations; anything such as spamming or other types of disruption often is better to point out at WP:ANI, WP:AIV, or some other relevant noticeboard. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:36, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

how do i prove a scholar is highly cited?

How do I prove a scholar is highly cited? Ebonyheins (talk) 01:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ebonyheins. Are you trying to create a new Wikipedia article about an academic/scholar? If so, then perhaps you should take a look at Wikipedia:Notability (academics), in particular the section titled Wikipedia:Notability (academics)#Citation metrics, for some more information. You might also want to ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography/Science and academia for suggestions as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:42, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

User Page Pizzaz

Hello! I've seen some other people's user pages and how they designed them, and I was wondering how I do that to my own. They have things such as charts, redirects, fun facts (eg. "This person is a fan of Abe Lincoln"), etc. Any tips? Thank you for your time. Le Panini (talk) 03:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Le Panini: Try Wikipedia:User page design center. Hillelfrei ^talk 03:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hillelfrei, that page is inactive and archived. Any others? I want a service too. Eumat114 formerly TLOM (Message) 03:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Eumat114:I'm not aware of a userpage "service". The design center page is inactive, but many of its contents, including the style page, contain active templates which can be used now. If you would rather just ask me how to add something to your user page, feel free to drop a message on my talk page. Sorry I can't be of more assistance. If another editor sees this message and knows of an existing active user page project that I am unaware of please let me know. Kind regards, Hillelfrei ^talk 03:57, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Le Panini: Take a look at WP:USERBOXES. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:58, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussions regarding Deletion I would like to confront the editors and especial the one who threatened me in the last message

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Please show me how to create a discussion page so I can invite the people deleting my addition and put a stop to it. There is not a valid reason given, just opinions Wlholmesiii (talk) 00:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Wlholmesiii: Welcome to the Teahouse! Making the same edit three times in a day is called edit warring, and is not appropriate. When you're concerned about the deletion of your addition to an article (e.g. List of coups d'état and coup attempts), the best place to discuss it is the article's talk page (e.g. Talk:List of coups d'état and coup attempts) with reliable sources (not opinion articles). This is the last step in the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. You may also be interested in reading Template:Cite web for tips on how to format references properly, and Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Sources for consensus on frequently used sources. GoingBatty (talk) 01:00, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Links

Hello everyone! I need help with adding a link. I can’t seem to find a way to get rid of the google.com part without the link being inaccessible. If someone could please help me with this that would be great. I was previously blocked for not having links and now that I have links my edits are once again being deleted since they are not accessible. Thank you! Wjrz nj forecast (talk) 06:46, 20 May 2020 (UTC) Wjrz nj forecast (talk) 06:46, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Someone was kind enough to help me already on their talk page. Thank you all! Wjrz nj forecast (talk) 06:50, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Finding a specific edit #?

I was wondering if there was a way to find a specific edit # I performed without manually counting lines in my contributions list. I'd like to go back and add some editing milestones to my talk page, edit #100 in particular. But what if I wanted to know what edits #192 and #4937 were? Is there a special search for that somewhere? If so, what's the process? CYAce01 (talk) 08:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, CYAce01. What a great, nerdy question! In the days when we used to be able to display 5,000 of our past edits on a single page, I remember once going back and creating an Excel spreadsheet of my first 20,000 edits. Nowadays we're only allowed to display 500 edits at a time, which would have made the task much harder. But luckily for you, you've only got c.430 edits, so you'd find that a simple job. Once they're in Excel, you'll have access to row numbers. I'm guessing you're in the US, as over in the UK here we only infrequently use '#' to mean 'number', so I had to spend a few moments decoding what your question was after. Hope this helps, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: Thanks for your time and the timely response. More questions arose: 1) Is there a page with a search function for finding particular edits? 2) How about a downloadable file I could import into excel? 3) Or do I have to manually enter the data into excel, row by row? If so, I was hoping for a more efficient process! CYAce01 (talk) 10:04, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@CYAce01: You're welcome. Firstly you can go to your own user contributions page, and click the dropdown 'Search contributions' menu, which allows you to display edits you've made in particular parts (namespaces) of Wikipedia, or to select a date range. At the very bottom of the page is a link to 'Edit summary search' which will find strings of words if you've included them in your edit summary, but it can't search for words used in the edits themselves. There's no simple way to download a list for all your edits as CSV or .xls file, but neither would you have to download them row by row. You could display 500 at a time in the User Contibutions page and paste those into a spreadsheet - a simple task for you at this stage. We do have various other tools for searching across Wikipedia. One useful set can be found here. Does that answer your questions? Nick Moyes (talk) 10:49, 20 May 2020 (UTC)  

@Nick Moyes: Yes. That helps a lot. I now have an excel spreadsheet listing ALL edits. Thanks again! CYAce01 (talk) 12:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

My page is not published.

My Page shiva kumar actor is not Published.Please guide me . I have updated my profile.And have account since 9th April 2018. Donot have much Knowledge what is the error . Please Help/guide .

Thank you
shiva kumar Shiva Kumar Actor (talk) 10:46, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Shiva Kumar Actor: welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately it looks like you may have misunderstood the purpose of Wikipedia. It is not a web host or platform for posting personal profiles – there are other websites that do that, but not this one. Wikipedia is meant for encyclopedic articles about notable subjects (and defines notability in very specific ways: these are the notability criteria for actors). In addition, autobiographies should be avoided, that is, if and when you do become notable per Wikipedia's definition of notability, somebody who is not connected to you in any way will probably write an article about you at some point. Hope that helps. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 10:57, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

IS MY ACCOUNT STILL THERE AS YOU HAVE DELETED MY PAGE

SIR /MADAM IS MY ACCOUNT STILL THERE WITH MY NAME "SHIVA KUMAR ACTOR" AS YOU HAVE DELETED IT. AND IS MY DATA SAVED FOR ME . I REQUEST YOU TO RECONSIDER MY PAGE AND TELL WHAT TO DELETE. I WILL GET MADE AGAIN UNDER GUIDANCE OF SOME EXPERT OF WIKIPEDIA. ONLY ONE THING HURT IS WITHOUT PUBLISHED YOU PEOPLE DELETED MY PAGE . THANK YOU SHIVA KUMAR ACTOR Shiva Kumar Actor (talk) 12:24, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Shiva Kumar Actor, please have a close look on the welcome message on your talk Page - furthermore I recommend reading Wikipedia:Autobiography, writing an autobiography like in your case on Wikipedia is an example of conflict of interest editing and is strongly discouraged. CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Shiva Kumar Actor: Please do not write in capital letters; that is regarded as SHOUTING! and is deemed as very rude and aggressive. Yes, you're account is still active, but your self-promotional userpage has been deleted as it breaches our policies on non-promotion. See WP:USERPAGE. I'm afraid its content is no longer available to you. Please use LinkedIn if you want to promote yourself. Nick Moyes (talk) 12:34, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

How to give reference from a book which is not published online

 TheChunky (talk) 08:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi TheChunky. Sources cited in Wikipedia article don't need to be available online. As long as the source is considered to be reliable, is published and accessible, and is used in proper context, then it can be cited as explained in WP:SAYWHERE. Being available online does make a source easier to verify, but it's not required. One thing though about citing sources not available online is that you should try and provide as much information as you can about the source as explained in WP:CITEHOW; so, the more information you provide about the book (e.g. author, publisher, year published, isbn number), the easier it will be for someone to track down if they wish to verify the source. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Welcome to the Teahouse, TheChunky. There's no problem using the same citation method to reference a printed book. But do try and include the precise page number where the cited statement appears in that book - especially if it's a long one! To reuse a reference, give it a 'ref name', then on subsequent uses you 'call it up' by that name, without having to re-enter all the details again. See WP:REFNAME for a full explanation. You can then use the {{rp}} template to add specific page numbers immediately afterwards. Forgive the shameless plug, but it might look something like this:

• First fact found on page 29 of a book. Second fact found on page 114 from the same book

References

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick Moyes (talk • contribs) 12:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoingBatty (talk • contribs)

RajeshKhanna

RajeshKhanna is widely considered as the biggest ever Superstar & also as cellu loid God no other actor in the history of the film industry has seen the mass hysteria that was created by him which can be verified by just googling his co-stars have testified that he has given the max no of solo hits compared to all other stars not only that in terms of impact there are many articles in google on him which you have not researched a small eg.Jack Pissey the man who made Bombay Superstar on RajeshKhanna when spoken to on the sea of fans who turned on his death informed he does not remember any person political film or any rockstar having such a recall value despite being out of the radar for two decades earlier you wiki page described him as one of the most successful & influential actors of Indian cinema now it has been edited why? it is evident that wikipedia is not complete in its research on RajeshKhanna & if i would say biased 2409:4040:412:5933:0:0:1AA2:60A1 (talk) 12:22, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse - the revisions made to the article were obviously made because of "spelling and grammar errors", you can see the lasted revisions in the Tab "View History" in the upper right corner of the article. CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:36, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

IP editor: You are right: Wikipedia is not complete. There are over 6,000,000 articles in Wikipedia, and nobody is suggesting they are all complete. In fact, only 6,828 are regarded as of the highest 'Featured Article' quality. We welcome editors (all of whom are volunteers) who are willing to add content (based on reliable, independent sources). If you want to make suggestions, feel free to leave ideas and links to sources on the article's talk page. If you can, please try and punctuate your posts. The odd fullstop here and there makes it much easier to understand what it is that you are trying to get across. Thanks for stopping by at the Teahouse. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:46, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

New article

I have made up a new draft article for well-known sportswear company Castore. It is very odd that they do not already have one. A reviewer refuses to approve the article on the basis that the company do not meet notability requirements for Wikipedia, which, for anyone living in the UK, seems patently bizarre when they are the main sponsor of the country's most famous tennis player and the kit provider for one of the UK's biggest football clubs. How can I challenge the decision of this one reviewer? Bluegene18 (talk) 15:49, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:Castore. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 15:57, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Bluegene18, and welcome to the Teahosue. The term "notability" is perhaps unfortunate, because Wikipedia uses it in a special sense. Here a topic is notable if and only if independent publications have "taken note" of the topic by writing about it in detail in reliable sources. Notability is typically demonstrated by citing multiple independent sources that discuss the topic in detail. Being a widely known company, or sponsoring popular events or people, does not indicate notability in this sense. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 16:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Bluegene18: - two different reviewers considered it yesterday. There are actually a number of reliable sources. What is killing it, source-wise, is that interviews and quotes don't add towards significant coverage because they're inherently non-independent. Huge amounts of the content included within the sources is from either a Castore director, or Andy, or a(nother) sponsor partner. Companies have higher corporate requirements than most articles in Wikipedia. If you wish, you can go to the AfC Help Desk and state that you thing the decline and reject were unwarranted given the quality of the sources - another reviewer will take a look at it. However, have you discussed it with Robert McClenon? You need to do that first. Nosebagbear (talk) 16:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you both for your help. I will add in even more neutral sources and resubmit the article. Bluegene18 (talk) 08:06, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Bluegene18, you say you "will add in even more neutral sources . . . ", suggesting that you have written text in the article and will now look for (Reliable) sources to support it: this is exactly the wrong way to go about writing a Wikipedia article.

The optimal procedure is, having decided on the subject of the article, to first gather Reliable (published, independent, editorially vetted) sources discussing the subject (at some length) and then write the core article using only facts included in those sources – this and only this will reliably establish the subject's "Wikipedian Notability", if I might coin a term.

Having thus drafted an acceptable article, one can then add minor and uncontrovertial facts from other non-independent sources (such as taking the name of a company's CEO and its current number of employees from its own website), and from Reliable sources that only list or mention the subject in passing, but such sources (and/or one's own knowledge) should not be used to create the initial basis of the article – going about the task in that way makes it many times harder to achieve an article that will pass muster with Wikipedia's requirements. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.219.32.223 (talk) 12:49, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Making a draft into an article

how can i make my draft article to a wikipidea article.please tell CousinsTeam (talk) 12:09, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Tencars111: if this is about Draft:DeepaPriya VG, your first step should be to decide whether you're writing about a person or a Youtube channel, and your second should be to find some reliable independent published sources that discuss your chosen subject in depth, so as to establish that it's notable.   Maproom (talk) 13:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

CousinsTeam, if this is about Draft:DeepaPriya VG, your first step should be to decide whether you're writing about a person or a Youtube channel, and your second should be to find some reliable independent published sources that discuss your chosen subject in depth, so as to establish that it's notable. Then base what you write on those sources. Maproom (talk)

Draft: Jamie Dolan (confusion with approval?)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Jamie Dolan (film producer)

Article Name: Jamie Dolan (not approved)

Hi there,

I had an editor review my page and it wasn't accepted and he asked some valid questions that I clarified because the questions he asked would go for an actor but not a film producer. In that sense meaning, a lot of producers don't have profile pieces done on them but we are usually mentioned to be producing these films by top publications in entertainment if our projects are of a certain caliber.

So essentially I was told that there wasn't information provided which would translate to me producing any notable films that would accommodate being eligible for a Wikpedia Page. And to specify on my end, 2 of the 3 films I referenced both were theatrically released in the US/UK and one in specific entitled Ladyworld has its own Wikipedia page which I tagged and has my name listed under the producers.

And I submitted about 20 references all from the top publications in entertainment media (Variety, Deadline, etc) in which they cover me producing these films. There's even one article in specific from Deadline announcing my company MUST B NICE in which they did a full profile on us again which is rare except if you're doing a company announcement. A lot of these articles wouldn't per se be profiles on me because that isn't as common for producers but I submitted a variety of published articles that are either 1) announcing the film I produced 2) announcing the release of the film I producer or 3) actual reviews from top reporters of the films I've produced. All of which mention my name as producer on these projects.

Let me know if you can assist me here because I do understand how a submission with no guidance on the above may have not been approved but I have the information to back it. So thank you! Jafilmmaker23 (talk) 14:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:Jamie Dolan (film producer) DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 15:13, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Jafilmmaker23. The reviewer pointed you to WP:NCREATIVE. Please read that guideline page. Section 3 of that (which seems to be what you are trying for) says: The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. Note that the work must be well-known for this to app;ly. That is much more than merely having had a theatrical release. A "notable" film is one that has, or could well have, its own Wikipedia article. "well-known" means more than that, it is not far short of "famous".

As for the references all from the top publications in entertainment media, I check the first few. All were brief mentions, one or two sentences. None discussed you or your work as a producer in detail. A mere mention that a film is being released and you produced it with no further detail is of no value at all in demonstrating Wikipedia-notability. There must be detailed discussion of you or your work. If there are a few good cites they are buried in a flood of bad ones. Film reviews can work but only if they discuss the contribution of you as a director in some detail. Discussing the film but merely mentioning your name and that you were the director (or producer) is not helpful here. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 15:32, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

You have been given links to a variety of pages with extra advice, such as Help:Referencing for beginners and WP:Notability (people), but it sounds as if you are writing about yourself, so you ought to read the advice against autobiography. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

I was the original reviewer, and was about to ask the submitter a question, but they have already answered whether they have a conflict of interest, which they do. I was planning and am planning to raise a question about whether an inconsistency between the notability guidelines for actors and the notability guidelines for producers and directors was intended, which makes it more difficult for producers and directors to qualify than for actors. However, my question has to do with drafts in general, especially those who are not submitting autobiographies or paid editing. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Religious Article Problem

While browsing the "Very likely has problems" section of the "Recent Changes" tab. I saw an edit on the Shia Islam Article placing "PBUH" after every reference of Muhammad. PBUH means "Peace be Upon Him". The purpose for the edit was labeled as "Kindly use "PBUH" (Peace be upon him) with the name of holy prophet Muhammad PBUH last messenger of ALLAH. As you write the name of ISA AS." I am very for properly labeling religious figures, and this is, through a small bit of research, the proper way to label Muhammad. However, this is slightly confusing, as any person visiting this article without knowledge of this fact may be confused by this, taking it for vandalism. Adding PBUH after every reference of Muhammad also makes the link to Muhammad's article turn red, as there is no article named Muhammad PBUH. How should I fix this issue? I think i could fix the problem with people taking the extra "PBUH" by placing a note at the bottom of the article describing that PBUH means "Peace be upon him" and that this is the proper way, or should I just revert the PBUH-ing. And how should I fix the link? Should I remove PBUH in that circumstance or should I place PBUH, outside of the Muhammad link. Like this Muhammad PBUH.

Thanks JazzClam (talk) 11:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@JazzClam: Please remove it if it has been added after the name. This is discussed in the Manual of Style. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 12:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Bonadea: Thank you very much for that, I did not see that in the manual of style — Preceding unsigned comment added by JazzClam (talk • contribs) 12:24, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@JazzClam:, thanks for asking, and apologies for the correct, but rather abrupt answer above. It is in MOS, but a summary of the key points and the reasoning is best found in the Muhammed page FAQ (Q5 for this one). Nosebagbear (talk) 10:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Not sure why Nosebagbear apologised, as they were not in any way responsible for the response that they personally found overly abrupt. It is perfectly fine to supplement other people's responses without belittling their efforts to help. --bonadea contributions talk 10:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Bonadea: (did the ping work now? xD) thanks for the answer — Preceding unsigned comment added by JazzClam (talk • contribs) 11:57, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@JazzClam: A ping doesn't work if you don't sign the message. See Help:Notifications. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Article about how can Alexander Kalombe article go public  ?

 Johntommy988 (talk) 14:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Which parts of the feedback (at User:Johntommy988/sandbox and on you user talk page) do you not understand? The words in blue in the feedback are wikilinks to further detailed advice. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Johntommy988, welcome to the Teahouse. There seem to be a problem with the given references in your draft, for example the first one is not reachable at all. You will need to add some reliable sources to your article draft. As soon as you added them you can try to resubmit the draft like it is written in the big box in your sandbox. CommanderWaterford (talk) 14:41, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

How can I Make Better Pages ?

How can I Make Better Pages ? Tencars111 (talk) 11:07, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Tencars111: creating a new Wikipedia article is really difficult, particularly for a new user. I recommend that you start by making minor improvements to existing articles instead. Maproom (talk) 15:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

New article

Hello the article Karwan-I-Islami is not Live inspite of its creation some 24 hours ago can anyone tell me how much time it will take for going live Mariyaibrahim (talk) 03:46, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Mariyaibrahim:The article is definitely live on Wikipedia. If you are wondering how long it will take before it is indexable on search engines, it should be as soon as it gets reviewed or in 90 days, whichever comes first. Hillelfrei ^talk 04:06, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

According to the template on the article, it is still under construction.-- Toddy1 (talk) 04:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Mariyaibrahim: The random procedure of Wikipedia is that unpatrolled articles are disabled for Google indexing. What I'm seeing is that, the article in reference is unpatrolled. Wait for new page reviewers to review it. Best - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 04:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@AaqibAnjum: ? Nothing "random" about it, AFAICT. This is done to keep people from gaming auto-confirm and creating poor, non-policy-compliant articles, usually for some kind of promotion, just to get them to appear in a Google search. Still, people try it many times a day . (No reflection on the subject article; I'm speaking in general.) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 15:04, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

AlanM1; I mean the same. Sorry for my bad choice of words. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 15:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Lawrence Ypil article?

Hello!

I'm editing and creating articles this month as part of the APAHM Edit-a-thon with Kundiman, which is focusing on addressing the erasure of Asian American writers online. I created an article for Lawrence Ypil yesterday, which was immediately deleted for not being notable enough. Is there some way to review this process? Ypil is an important contemporary poet, and I believe he deserves an article.

Thanks for your help! Tomatotots (talk) 16:28, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Tomatotots. The article was deleted yesterday under criterion A7: Article about a real person, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subjectt. You could ask the deleting admin Anthony Bradbury to put the content in your user space, and he may agree: I don't know. I suggest you read your first article, and if you can show that Ypil meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability - not your definition - create a draft using the Article Wizard. --ColinFine (talk) 17:22, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

The Richard_Chase article seems to have some problems

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Chase

Can a more experienced editor take a look at it and see if they also think there are some problems?

I'm seeing potentially original research and some grammatical issues like "Murder spree".--Hiveir (talk) 18:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

That's an unpleasant article I didn't need to read. I cleaned it up a little. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:13, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Can i learn about Enduring Freedom?

 108.209.226.41 (talk) 19:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Are you referring to Operation Enduring Freedom? Rotation4020 (talk) 19:25, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Request for semi-protection

Hi, I was wondering how I would make a request for semi-protection for Israel Kamakawiwoʻole because it is the Google Doodle for today. Thanks! xRENEGADEx (talk) 18:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@XRENEGADEx: Welcome to Wikipedia and for wanting it to be safe. You can post at WP:RFPP to request the page be protected. It will only get protected if there is a high amount of vandalism or other disruption occuring. 18:58, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I'll take a look at it. Thanks! xRENEGADEx (talk) 19:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

To add, I highly recommend you look at using the Twinkle gadget here WP:TW. I've been using it for years and it's excellent for purposes like that. Rotation4020 (talk) 19:23, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Rotation4020: Yeah, I looked at WP:RFP and saw the recommendation for Twinkle. Currently reading the documentation. xRENEGADEx (talk) 19:28, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Userboxes

How do I put userboxes on my user page? Dragonlover21 (talk) 19:57, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Dragonlover21: Userboxes are usually templates that you can call: for example, {{User Copy Edit}}. There are many userbox templates floating about Wikipedia. If you can't find one that suits your purposes, you can try asking at Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/Ideas to ask a volunteer to make one for you. I suggest reading WP:USERBOXES to understand what you can and cannot put in a userbox. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Grace Wan Wikipedia Page

Blocked

 – OP blocked for sockpuppetry in regards to a salted article. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

I am writing to you because I am trying to publish the Grace Wan Wikipedia Page, and a Wikipedia editor wrote that he declined it, because I called her page Grace Wan (Actress). I tried to publish the page as Grace Wan, but it was declined again and it said that it was declined because it's protected by an administrator. How can I contact this administrator when I don't know who he is? Please reply as soon as possible as my time is limited.

Sincerely, Max266 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max266 (talk • contribs) 17:03, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Max266 - Firstly, please sign all posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp.
Secondly WP:There is no deadline - things will take as long as they take - rushing is rarely the best solution.
Thirdly, to answer your question, you should speak to User:Anachronist, who create protected that page, and who last edited at 16.18 today - although he tends to edit in the early hours UTC - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 17:13, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Max266: As far as I can tell the draft was never submitted for review with {{subst:AFC draft}} and there are no records of the draft being declined in the page's history. The most that I see is a discussion on the talk page after it got moved. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link to deletion discussion prior to salt. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grace Wan TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:31, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

See also Grace wan and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gwan123. We're up to nearly a full decade of this. --Finngall ^talk 20:23, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

OP has been sockblocked. --Finngall ^talk 21:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Characteristics of the lead

Is the lead simply a summary or is it a summary that includes a definition, notability, context, key points and any important controversy as per [[2]]?

Another editor and I are having a disagreement. He says the lead is simply a summary and nothing but a summary, without the rest. He quotes:

"Provide an accessible overview

See also: Wikipedia:Summary style

The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article. The reason for a topic's noteworthiness should be established, or at least introduced, in the lead (but not by using subjective "peacock terms" such as "acclaimed" or "award-winning" or "hit"). It is even more important here than in the rest of the article that the text be accessible. Editors should avoid lengthy paragraphs and overly specific descriptions – greater detail is saved for the body of the article. Consideration should be given to creating interest in the article, but do not hint at startling facts without describing them.

In general, introduce useful abbreviations, but avoid difficult-to-understand terminology and symbols. Mathematical equations and formulas should be avoided when they conflict with the goal of making the lead section accessible to as broad an audience as possible. Where uncommon terms are essential, they should be placed in context, linked and briefly defined. The subject should be placed in a context familiar to a normal reader. For example, it is better to describe the location of a town with reference to an area or larger place than with coordinates. Readers should not be dropped into the middle of the subject from the first word; they should be eased into it."

My response was that yes, this is a description of summary, but it is not a limiter saying that a summary excludes those other characteristics. It's been my understanding that a good summary includes these qualities and the other ones as well. Could you clear that up for us please? Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:19, 20 May 2020 (UTC) Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:19, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Jenhawk777: Every situation is different. You want a fair and balanced summary without giving anything undue weight. For example, minor controversies are often avoided in the lede since that can be an opportunity for editors with a conflict of interest to push a point of view. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:23, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

I get that. Controversy was mentioned simply as existing, in one part of one sentence, but that isn't what's going on I don't think. It isn't about the controversy or POV pushing. It is about what should be in the lead. It was previously one sentence and was tagged as "inadequate." I wrote a lead that included a definition, etc. and another editor has since disagreed, saying a lead is a summary and only a summary and should not include definition, notability, etc in it. It is currently 3 paragraphs, explains the content of the article and is located here [3] if you want to take a look and critique it. Before, a reader had to assume what was meant and that it mattered. We are disagreeing over what the lead actually contains. We need outside input to clear this up. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Timtempleton Sorry Tim, I neglected to include a ping--or do I need to? Does the system automatically notify you? I noted you needed to ping me, so I am unsure. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:47, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Jenhawk777: Pinging is always good unless it's my user page. I'll take a look. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:58, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion moved to talk page with more eyeballs. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:03, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Request 'autocomfirmed' user status to edit 'Parachute' and add an 'Annular and pull-down apex' photo

The 'Annular and pull-down apex' section under the 'Parachute' article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parachute) has a photo of an RAF drogue chute and I'd like to replace it with a pull-down apex canopy pic, so apparently need autoconfirmed status. Can I get it please?

I'd move the RAF drogue chute photo elsewhere (likely replacing "A jumper in Venezuela with his parachute on his back", but not necessarily.) I've got 110 shots on WP so far, so I hope I have enough experience to warrant autoconfirmed status. BrettA343 (talk) 15:15, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, BrettA343. You have autoconfirmed (in fact, extended confirmed) status. What is the problem you're seeing? (You don't need autoconfirmed status to upload to Commons anyway.) --ColinFine (talk) 15:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, ColinFine. The problem I'm seeing - for the first Wikipedia article I've yet come across - is a big pink box stating: "Note: This page is semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it. If you need help getting started with editing, please visit the Teahouse."

I have no issues uploading to Commons, but wasn't going to go through updating the Wikipedia article when, as far as I knew, I didn't have autoconfirmed status. If people generally have this on Wikipedia, I suggest that the unusual big pink box gets removed. But since you say I have this, I'll now try editing 'Parachute'. Thanks! BrettA343 (talk) 16:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@BrettA343: The warning is visible to all users who attempt to edit the page. I get that too when I come across protected articles (and find it annoying), but it's there to let people know that they can make edit requests on the article's talk page if they're not able to edit it directly. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@BrettA343: I suppose the virtue of having it appear to all users, including those who are able to edit the page, is to make them aware that there has been controversy or other activity that has caused the page to have to be protected. This knowledge can be helpful in an editor's decisions on how/what to edit. E.g., they might want to investigate the talk page first to see how their desired edit relates to past activity. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:49, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

References to articles witin Wikipedia

 Gerald S. Walton (talk) 22:50, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Gerald S. Walton; what is your question with references to articles within Wikipedia? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Inclusion of a picture for the /wiki/Karen_(slang) entry?

Re the entry for /wiki/Karen_(slang)...might it be appropriate to include an image that portrays a typical Karen? Here is a photoshopped pic I made and posted onto reddit: (Redacted);50.45.206.131 (talk) 10:06, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't know if you're trolling us, but the answer is an emphatic NO! Not only have you taken a copyright image, faked a new slogan on top of it (see here), you've then posted it on Reddit and expect we might want to take it from there and add it to Karen (slang). No, we do not! Nick Moyes (talk) 10:13, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Just going to add that it would be near impossible to find a representative photo of this, even one without copyright issues, due to Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Image use policy#Adding images to articles, and WP:OI. Any photo of a real person used to represent this is pretty much going to be based upon someone's interpretation of what a typical "Karen" looks like; so it would have to be a photo or image that is considered something used by reliable sources critically discussing this stereotype like perhaps a meme that has received lots of coverage in reliable source. Any photo of a still living person is likely going to be seen as a problem per WP:MUG; so, most likely it would need to be a some other type of image (e.g. poster) which "shows" what a typical "Karen" looks like. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:03, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

PetScan Gurus onsite!? ;)

Hi guys, regarding PetScan I seem to be too stupid - I like e.g. to search for all articles which exist in ES WK but not in EN with a given category... any hints how to achieve this? Language=es, Has none of these templates=en, category=xyz?! Any hint highly appreciated... CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@CommanderWaterford: You might have more luck posting on the PetScan talk page. Wikipedia talk:PetScan TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:26, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Sources

I recently published one of my first articles ever and shortly after publishing the article someone added a bunch of sources. The article is for Elucid and the sources are 14 through 31 on the discography. I was wondering whether sources for a discography is standard practice on Wikipedia (I've checked other articles and haven't seen any). I was also wondering whether Bandcamp is considered a good source and if so does that me citing iTunes, Spotify, or SoundCloud is also appropriate?

I was also curious whether blog posts are ever acceptable as a reliable source. For instance, Pigeons & Planes is a music blog owned by Complex Magazine. TipsyElephant (talk) 20:03, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi TipsyElephant. A blog can sometimes be considered to be a reliable source for Wikipedia as explained in WP:NEWSBLOG, but self-published or user-generated content is for the most part considered unacceptable. Whether the blog owned by Complex is considered reliable and whether it can be used might depend upon whether the magazine itself is considered reliable, how much editorial control it exerts over what's written in the blog, and the context in which you want to cite the blog as a source. For example, if you just want to cite it to support some fairly benign content the magazine says about itself, then perhaps it would be OK as a WP:PRIMARY source per WP:SELFPUB. On the other hand, if the content is something about a third-party (particularly a living person) that has a good chance of being seen as contentious, then perhaps it wouldn't be such a good idea per things like WP:BLPSPS. You can always ask for more opinions on either the article's talk page or at WP:RSN. When a source is cited and nobody challenges it, WP:SILENCE is often assumed until someone does; when someone does, however, the article talk page is usually the best place to try and sort things out (at least at first) per WP:DR, and then WP:RSN is a good place to go when article talk page discussion fails to resolve things.

The same applies to the other sources you mentioned in that in some contexts they might be seen as reliable, but not so much in others. If you take a look at a page like WP:RS/P, you might find some general assessments of them there, but you may need to seek input at WP:RSN for specific feedback about a specific use. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:27, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

creating an autobiography about my mother. she is a musician.

how can i create an autobiograpg about anyone.my mother is a musician and have s youtube channel. can i create a autubiography about her. how. how to give references. CousinsTeam (talk) 16:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

By definition you can't write an autobiography about your mother. An autobiography is about yourself, and for advice against that see WP:autobiography. If your mother is notable in Wikipedia's terms (see also WP:Notability (music)), someone could write an article about her, but it oughtn't to be you that writes it as you have a conflict of interest. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

If you can find a number of third-party sources to create an article about her, then it could be possible. Otherwise, it's unlikely. Le Panini (talk) 17:55, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

How big is her YouTube channel? Very few are notable enough to appear on Wikipedia. See WP:NYOUTUBE. Rotation4020 (talk) 19:27, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

CousinsTeam indef blocked because it is the name of a company. David notMD (talk) 23:38, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Joseph Pasinski III

• Draft: Joseph Pasinski III

Hello! I've written a short summary about someone who is closely related to me, in a neutral matter. I'm still working on some more credible sources, such as his music origins, so for now, I'm not asking it to be published but rather reviewed and suggested/declined about. Thank you for your time. -- Le Panini (talk) 01:26, 16 May 2020

You need to add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft and save it. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:54, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Pinging Le Panini —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:55, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

@Le Panini: Since you have a conflict of interest because he is closely related to you, please disclose that fact on your user page - see How to disclose a COI. GoingBatty (talk) 02:53, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

@Le Panini: After that, I suggest you gather your independent reliable sources to determine if he meets Wikipedia's notability criteria for musicians. If so, I suggest you follow the guidance at Help:Your first article to summarize what the reliable sources say about him. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:56, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

So I've proved to my brother that this article is not possible to do, because it doesn't meet the notability criteria. Can I have the article deleted now? It kinda hurts my reputation too, to be honest. Le Panini (talk) 01:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

AfC process vs. Autoconfirmed or confirmed users article creation

Hello, what's the difference between the AfC process vs. the statement on Wikipedia:User access levels that "Autoconfirmed or confirmed users can create articles"? Does this mean that if I become a confirmed or autoconfirmed user, I can create articles without going through the AfC process? How do I tell if I'm a confirmed or autoconfirmed user? Thanks Eric.c.zhang (talk) 23:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Eric.c.zhang: The difference is that if you create the article without going through the draft process, then you won't get the benefit of feedback from a review. If you create the article directly in main space, then it may get deleted if another editor spots major problems with it. Unless you are experienced with the article creation process, I strongly suggest you go through the review process even though it can take quite some time. You will normally become auto confirmed when your account is at least 4 days old and you have at least 10 edits. If you go to your contributions page, at the bottom there is a link to see what user rights you have. I am not sure why it is not showing you are autoconfirmed, since your account normally would be by now, unless I am missing something. RudolfRed (talk) 23:34, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Ah okay. Great thanks! I'm not sure why I'm not autoconfirmed. Eric.c.zhang (talk) 23:58, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Eric.c.zhang: According to this, you're implicitly a member already. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:43, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Review this re-post

Hello, I've been needing help with the publication of this article. Since 2017, I've been unable to get published; the problems range from minor editing to references. Regards!  Hip matter (talk) 03:47, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hip matter, "African American Girls and School Discipline Disparities: A State-Sanctioned Violence", an opinion piece you have posted on your Talk page, is an "article", but not an encyclopedic article. It's more of a position paper or a recommendation for societal change, and seems to qualify as WP:Original research, As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia cannot host non-encyclopedic content. You should seek out online venues which host the type of writing you offer.--Quisqualis (talk) 04:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Hip matter. I agree with Quisqualis's assessment that what you're working on (at least in its current form) is not really something suitable for a Wikipedia article. In addition, you probably should move the content to either a userspace draft or the draft namespace if you wish to continue working on improving it in the hope of someday submitting it to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for review. Your user talk page is really a place for others to try and communicate with you about things related to Wikipedia, etc. and the longer you leave this content on your user talk page the greater the chance that it will be removed per WP:UP#NOT. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:22, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

The change watcher's unfair removal of my edits

Unfair removal of my edits by User:Hb1290

Hi,

I recently made an edit in the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devendrakula_Velalar with a disclaimer and additional section with relevant references. The user https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hb1290 has reverted my change without any justification. I would like to get a clarification regarding this. Rvptiger18 (talk) 07:38, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Rvptiger18: welcome to the Teahouse. The best place to ask a user why they made a particular edit is on their user talk page. In this case, the reason is clear, though: first of all, as you say, you added a disclaimer in the article itself stating that its information was not true. Such disclaimers do not belong in any Wikipedia article. If you have reliable sources supporting your assertion, post to the article talk page and explain why you believe that the information is incorrect. You can't simply add the claims to the article in Wikipedia's voice, when they go against the existing, sourced information. In addition, you had added a notability tag which did not apply to the article. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 07:49, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Bonadea: Thanks for your reply. I have taken this issue in the user talk page of Hb1290. My contention is that the use of the name "Devendra Kula Velalar" is objected by different velalar communities and this name is not recognised by Indian government or Tamilnadu government. There is no proof existing to substantiate that this name "Devendra Kula Velalar" represents the Pallar community which this page is describing about. Rvptiger18 (talk) 11:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Rvptiger18: replied on your talk page. Hb1290 (talk) 06:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Referencing

What style of referencing is recommended for use by wikipedians? Robbiegibbons (talk) 07:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Robbiegibbons. Since Wikipedia is edited by all kinds of people from all over the world, it doesn't have one particular "house citation style" that everyone must use, but instead allows a variety of styles to be used. You can find out more about this in Wikipedia:Citing sources and Help:Referencing for beginners. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:36, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Why am I getting warnings?

Why am I getting lots of warning for editing and why are most of my edits are removed? Even after putting relevant points with links why am I also subjected to be warned and remove? Sarker Ahtef (talk) 08:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Sarker Ahtef, welcome to the Teahouse! Your edits are being removed as you are expressing your own point of view, which does not follow Wikipedia's neutral view policy. Encyclopaedias are a source of knowledge, not opinions. — Yours, Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 08:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Can I add an image to an article that is pending review?

I have just written an article (Draft:Edinburgh Festival Voluntary Guides Association) and it is now pending review. The article is about an organisation, so I thought I would add the organisation's logo to the Infobox. So I started the File Upload Wizard, and declared that the image was non-free. So far, so good.

But when I entered the title of the article into the wizard, it told me that no article exists with that name. This is presumably because the article hasn't yet been approved. I tried entering the article name pre-pended with "Draft:", but that made no difference.

So it looks like it is not possible to add images to articles before they are approved. Is that correct? Mike Marchmont (talk) 09:16, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Mike Marchmont: yes and no. Non-free images (which logos usually are), may not be added to anything except a published article: please see WP:NFCC. In fact, non-free images may also not be kept in Wikipedia unless they are used in an article. Free images (usually from Commons) may be added to a draft. --ColinFine (talk) 09:34, 21 May 2020 (UTC) Edited to correct a typo in this paragraph. --ColinFine (talk) 10:43, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@ColinFine : Thanks for your prompt reply, Colin. This is perfectly clear. I will just wait until the article has been approved before uploading the logo. Mike Marchmont (talk) 09:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Vorsham New artists about submissions

Hi Dear , I Just create the article for British-Iranian Rapper knows as Vorsham His on the rise now First time my submission is decided because of the reference about Spotify things and this not acceptable and I change the reference to unique news about him and I resubmit how I can make sure my articles go live 🙏🏻

Here the link plz can u review

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vorsham 148.252.132.163 (talk) 10:42, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

If this person is "on the rise", they likely do not meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. A person must have, so to speak, already arrived, not just be up and coming, in order to merit an article on Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 10:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:TheRunawayGuys

• Draft:TheRunawayGuys

Hello, I'm writing an article on the collaborative YouTube channel 'TheRunawayGuys', as I think the group is notable enough for their own article and not just a redirect to the Chuggaaconroy article. I think this due to the fact they are one of, if not, the first group to do collabs on YouTube in their manner, plus they have many panels at conventions as well as their partnership with Direct Relief. However, at the moment the draft won't be accepted due to citing of unreliable sources. I was wondering if anybody could help me with this. Thank you. Captain Galaxy (talk) 09:37, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Captain Galaxy. Wikipedia notability isn’t really something we can “manufacture” or edit into an article as explained in WP:ARTN. Subjects either receive sufficient significant coverage to justify having a Wikipedia article written about them or they don’t, and in many cases it’s simply WP:TOOSOON for an article to be written. It isn’t possible, however, for a broad guideline like WP:N to cover every possible case related to assessing a subject’s Wikipedia notability, which is why there are also various subject-specific notability guidelines as well, but even these in some cases might not still be too broadly construed to clearly say “this subject is definitely Wikipedia notable”. YouTubers in particular might be a subject which doesn’t receive the kind of coverage in traditional reliable sources that more mainstream entertainers, etc. tend to get, and thus they might rely of more niche types of sources instead. Perhaps you should try asking at WP:YTP for feedback on your draft because the members of that WikiProject are likely going to know what types of sources are generally considered reliable for this type of thing and where to look for them. Even if it turns out that the consensus is that an article cannot yet be written about this group at this moment, that could change down the road and there are WP:ALTERNATIVES to Wikipedia which might actually more suitable (i.e. less restrictive policies and guidelines and more editorial control) for this kind of stuff. — Marchjuly (talk) 10:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Marchjuly:Thank you for the advice, I'll go check WP:YTP. Captain Galaxy (talk) 10:50, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Change colour of name

See abow. I want to change it from red to blue. Mirrored7 (talk) 22:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Umm... I think that if you click on the red link (it’s your userpage BTW) and create it, the link will turn blue. Stay safe and well, --Total Eclipse 2017 ^{(My profile | My contribs | speak to me)} 22:47, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Mirrored7: if after that you don't like blue, you can visit this page to change it to another color. Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signature. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:24, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Poof it is blue. As Tim advised, you can also get fancy about your signature. David notMD (talk) 23:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Now that's something I didn't know, thanks guys. Also to add another question, what's the best way to revert it to default if we ever want to? Is there another code? Or just blank the page? Rotation4020 (talk) 10:55, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Remove "This article has multiple issues" from page

Hello,

I have methodically gone through my biography to try and remove template messages. I have inserted citations for verification. I have followed Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies but the messages that:

"This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. (Learn how and when to remove these template messages) This biography of a living person needs additional citations for verification. (June 2017) The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies. (April 2020)"

still remain at the top of the page. Please can anyone advise.

(KingoftheWoods (talk) 23:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)) KingoftheWoods (talk) 23:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi KingoftheWoods - it's discouraged for people to write about themselves, since they may not follow site guidelines about verifiable and accurate content. Please review WP:EDITREQUEST to post a request for help on the David Day (Canadian writer) talk page. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:21, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

This tags are added and removed manually by users. You are free to remove it yourself if you believe an article no longer has these issues. Rotation4020 (talk) 10:59, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Rotation4020 whilst that advice is true in general, if the user has a conflict of interest i.e. in this case they are the subject of the article, then they shouldn't be removing tags from the page. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:09, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, absolutely. I just wanted to add to what Tim said, for if the user comes across another article in future. Rotation4020 (talk) 11:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Please delete my account

I was writing to my bank and ended up on Wikipedia somehow,I have tried for two days and cannot delete my banking information. Can anyone help? Pawladobe (talk) 11:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Pawladobe. Accounts on Wikipedia cannot be deleted. I couldn't find any banking information associated with this account. If you could link to us where you posted it, we can help you further. Interstellarity (talk) 11:42, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Interstellarity, the thing to do is to point them to appropriate private channels, not ask them for more details publicly. Cheers! Usedtobecool ☎️ 11:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Usedtobecool: My apologies. If you don't mind, I will let you take over helping this editor. Interstellarity (talk) 11:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Interstellarity, I apologise for my previous edit; I wrote it in a hurry, in case the OP might be drawn to make yet another edit pointing to information that needed suppression. Note that the edit they alluded to was the only one they have made, other than this very post. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 12:08, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Pawladobe, the information has been removed from public view. Only the most trusted few can ever see it again. Please change any private details that can be changed, so the information you posted becomes unusable anyway. Unfortunately, accounts can not be deleted. You can simply abandon it if you wish to not edit any further.

For the future, please note that all edits you make within Wikipedia are still public; therefore you should pursue private channels, such as emailing, to bring such matters to attention. Your post here could as well have drawn unwanted attention to those banking details, since this one too is one of the very public pages on Wikipedia. You can use the form at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Oversight to send an email requesting deletion of personal, private information as outlined at Wikipedia's Oversight Policy, if the need arises again. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 12:08, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Malayeen Karim

Draft: Malayeen Karim Hello! I have a draft that has been waiting for around 6 days for a review and one draft that was reviewed in a day. Is that normal? Many thanks to you, Maha92o (talk) 06:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Maha92o, this is entirely normal. Reviewers select the articles they will review, so please be patient. It can take weeks to get a review.--Quisqualis (talk) 07:03, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

To reinforce that - it is not a queue. There are close to 2,000 drafts in the 'pile' and reviewers pick what they want. Sadly, can actually take months. David notMD (talk) 13:03, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Updates on page 'undone' by Coffee and even older version loaded!

This page is about to have major traffic due to a national broadcast on BBC and is now redundant. Concerned that if we spend more time making revisions these will be wiped too! Coffee considered the revisions 'promotional'..can only think this was the insertion of the term 'world's greatest' instead of 'many of the great' orchestras'but anyone who knows their music will know this is true! A statement of fact not a promotion!! Worse she reverted the copy to a version that was up 10 years ago so it is now misinformation.

Tried to update my wiki page and 'Coffee' undid them all and reverted to a version that is so old it's pointless! What do? such a waste of tim! Henri of Wells (talk) 07:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Charles Hazlewood.

Henri of Wells: yes, adding promotional phrases like "of the world's best", and adding entire paragraphs which cite no source, is pointless, as such edits are very likely to be reverted. I see you refer to the article as "my wiki page". If you are Hazlewood, you should not be editing the article at all (except to revert vandalism and correct obvious errors). Instead you should write on its talk page, giving details of any changes you would like to make and providing references for them. Maproom (talk) 08:03, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Much of the content just removed was added by User:Megs91 back in 2009, but it was not referenced then, and remained unreferenced. Content can be added back with supporting references, but a wholesale reverting of Coffee's cut (and Maproom's restoration of that cut) is not warranted. David notMD (talk) 13:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Najee Dorsey Submission -- Other ways to talk about "Explore"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Najee_Dorsey

I have seen articles on Wikipedia use "explore" to describe what artists do (Radcliffe Bailey). How else should I state this? I thought about using "depicts". Do you see any other instances of this problem (wording) in my submission? I want to get it right this time. Thanks for your help. ClairCarol (talk) 14:39, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@ClairCarol: Welcome to the Teahouse. I agree with your assessment of using something like "depict" rather than "explore", as the former is more neutral than the latter. Saying something along the lines of "Dorsey is known for creating Southern African American-themed works" might also work as well. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:06, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Draft:IXL Learning

Hello! I'm in the process of writing about IXL Learning, a parent education company (I think that's what they're called, its what I call it.) One of the companies IXL Learning owns is ABCya.com, which already has a pre-existing Wikipedia article. What should I do for this case? Should I briefly describe it on my article or some requirement like that? Thank you for your time. Le Panini (talk) 14:20, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Le panini. Generally not: just Wikilink to it, so the reader will see a link, and can follow it to the relevant article. Once your draft is accepted, the article about the parent company should be wikilinked to the one you're writing, either by editing the text to refer to it, or else in the "See also" section. --ColinFine (talk) 15:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Edits to Digital Marketing

Hello Teahouse! I took the plunge based on your advice and recently made my first bold edit on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_marketing would love to hear your feedback before I keep going:) Thanks so much! LilMew88 (talk) 17:53, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello! The only suggestion I myself would give is to thread the smaller paragraphs into a couple of big ones. Other then that, it seems well sophisticated! Le Panini (talk) 18:00, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@LilMew88: It is important not to use in-group terminology or jargon in Wikipedia articles, and also to think about the audience. Articles about marketing have a tendency to become more and more laden with buzzwords and marketing talk, and so when you add or rewrite a section it's really easy to fall into the same kind of writing. But in fact, Wikipedia is not written for marketers and people who understand their peculiar version of English, so I have done a little bit of rephrasing of your edits for that reason, and also to give the text a more neutral tone (we don't want to give the impression that marketing is inherently a positive thing or something that improves the lives of regular people.) The entire article would need a re-write to bring it to a more encyclopedic standard, and that's quite a big task...

Another thing to keep in mind is that we can't use Wikipedia articles as references. Instead of using <ref> tags and adding a citation with the Wikipedia article, simply add a wikilink to the relevant word. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 13:21, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much bonadea and Le Panini!!! Super helpful advice!! I am working on rewriting the entire article, so I will use these tips moving forward, and hopefully we can get this thing back up to par! Thanks again, LilMew88 (talk) 15:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Internet Archive for dead links

I'm new to Wikipedia, and all my edits have been simply copy-editing. I was editing the Stephen A. Zeff article, and I noticed this link in the references. It now leads to a 404 page, but there is an Internet Archive save for it here.

Thank you, Just gonna edit a bit (talk) 14:48, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

 Added to reference. @Just gonna edit a bit: Thanks for finding that! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out, Just gonna edit a bit. Generally what you do is to leave the link there but mark it as dead, and add an archive-url to the citation. See Link rot for more information. --ColinFine (talk) 15:47, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

There are actually two dead links. I will take care of it. Just gonna edit a bit (talk) 15:50, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Page history after moving Sandbox into Wikipedia

What happens with the Sandbox author's editing history after moving a new article from user space into article space? Will the history be reset automatically or does a history reset need to be requested? Dranoel26 (talk) 14:19, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Dranoel26 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. When you move a page from draft to main space, the history goes with it. You could just create a new page and copy/paste the text from your sandbox, but I'm not sure why you would want to remove the edit history.

Be advised that unless you are extremely experienced with creating articles, it is a good idea to submit your draft for an independent review using Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 14:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

thx for the good advise. Could you pls also comment on the question about editing history? --Dranoel26 (talk) 14:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Dranoel26 I did; "When you move a page from draft to main space, the history goes with it." 331dot (talk) 14:53, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

thanks

@Dranoel26: If you want to submit it for review without a long page history then you could copy the contents to User:Dranoel26/Jewish Princedom in feudal France or Draft:Jewish Princedom in feudal France. You are allowed to make many user subpages for drafts or tests. You normally have to credit the original page in a copy per Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, but it's not required when you are the only contributor. Don't move it to one of those pages since it brings the page history which would then also be brought to a mainspace article after a second move. It's possible to delete the page history later but only for administrators and they may see no good reason to do it. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Add {{subst:submit}} to the bottom of the page you want to submit. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

is there not any simple way for the administrator just to reset the history (specially with a single contributor)?--Dranoel26 (talk) 15:44, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

@Dranoel26: It's much easier for you to just copy the page, and it's unclear whether an author request is even a valid reason for partial deletion of a page history. Wikipedia:Deletion policy, Wikipedia:Selective deletion and Wikipedia:Revision deletion doesn't mention it. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

many thanks for your assistance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dranoel26 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Ireby, Cumbria

Hi there appears to be a new editor appearing on Ireby, Cumbria + Uldale, trying to advertise the same two businesses that another editor was banned for advertising.

These pages should be protected.

Devokewater (talk) 18:27, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

The issue appears to be not false statements, but rather lack of verification by references. At both articles, if the edit warring continues, I suggest you take up with the other editor the solution of stating that a pub is open again (Ireby), and a tea room exists (Uldale), without including the actual name of the businesses now in these locations. David notMD (talk) 18:37, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Thomas Jefferson page

I would like access to Thomas Jefferson page to enter my books into Bibliography

• M. Andrew Holowchak, Rethinking Thomas Jefferson’s Views on Race and Slavery: “God’s justice can not sleep forever,” Cambridge Scholars, 2020, ISBN-10: 1527544486
• M. Andrew Holowchak, American Messiah: The Surprisingly Simple Religious Views of Thomas Jefferson, Abilene Christian University Press, 2020, ISBN-10: 168426071X
• M. Andrew Holowchak, Thomas Jefferson: Psychobiography of an American Lion, Nova Publishers, 2020, ISBN-10: 153616657X
• M. Andrew Holowchak, Thirty-Six More Essays, Plus another, on the Probing Mind of Thomas Jefferson: “A sentimental traveller,” II, Cambridge Scholars Press, 2020, ISBN-10: 1527544842
• M. Andrew Holowchak, Thirty-Six Short Essays on the Probing Mind of Thomas Jefferson: “A sentimental traveler,” Cambridge Scholars, 2020, ISBN-10: 1527541851
• M. Andrew Holowchak, The Cavernous Mind of Thomas Jefferson, an American Savant, Cambridge Scholars, 2019, ISBN-10: 1527538648
• M. Andrew Holowchak, Jefferson’s Bible: Text with Introduction and Critical Commentary, Berlin: DeGruyter, 2019, ISBN-10: 3110617560
• M. Andrew Holowchak, Thomas Jefferson, Moralist, McFarland, 2017, ISBN-10: 1476669244
• M. Andrew Holowchak, Jefferson’s Political Philosophy and the Metaphysics of Utopia, Brill, 2017, ISBN-10: 9004339418
• M. Andrew Holowchak, The Elusive Thomas Jefferson: The Man behind the Myths (contributing co-editor with Brian Dotts, UGA), McFarland, 2017, ISBN-10: 9781476669250
• M. Andrew Holowchak, Thomas Jefferson’s Philosophy of Education: A Utopian Dream, Taylor & Francis, 2014, ISBN-10: 9781138702257
• M. Andrew Holowchak, Thomas Jefferson: Uncovering His Unique Philosophy and Vision, Prometheus Books, 2014, ISBN: 1616149523
• M. Andrew Holowchak, Thomas Jefferson and Philosophy: Essays on the Philosophical Cast of Jefferson’s Writings, Lexington Books, 2013, ISBN-10: 0739180916
• M. Andrew Holowchak, Framing a Legend: Exposing the Distorted History of Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings, Prometheus Books, 2013, ISBN-10: 1616147296
• M. Andrew Holowchak, Dutiful Correspondent: Philosophical Essays on Thomas Jefferson, Rowman & Littlefield, 2013, ISBN: 1442220422

 Mholowchak (talk) 17:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Mholowchak, you, like any other editor, already have access to the Thomas Jefferson article. But please don't. Adding links to your own work to a Wikipedia article is strongly disapproved of. Adding 15 of them at once would almost certainly result in their prompt removal.

If you think one or two of them would be a good addition to the article, you should propose them on the article's talk page, and leave it to editors with no conflict of interest to make the decision. Maproom (talk) 17:15, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

You were cautioned in February for self-citing your own work (and quoting yourself) in edits to Jefferson-related articles, so I support the recommendation that you make a case for content you want to amend and your references in support of same in the Talk page of the article rather than direct changes to the article. David notMD (talk) 18:26, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

At second look, the relevant article appears to be Bibliography of Thomas Jefferson versus Thomas Jefferson. However, if appears that 15 books by you are already in the list (added by you, today). So is there still a question? David notMD (talk) 18:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Peer review

So, when I clicked on an editor’s contributions, I found that they hade made edits to a subpage of Wikipedia:Peer review. I clicked on the link, but I’m still a little confused. What exactly is peer review? (I’ve found that asking an editor sometimes gives me a better answer than reading a page...) Stay safe and well, --Total Eclipse 2017 ^{(My profile | My contribs | speak to me)} 22:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Total Eclipse 2017: Sometimes on Wikipedia (quite a lot of times, actually) you have to be prepared to actually read stuff for yourself, rather than relying on others to spoon feed you information. This is one of those times. You have already given us the link to Wikipedia:Peer review, so please at least read the first paragraph. That should tell you the basics. If you're still confused, Wikipedia even has an article about it (see Peer review). Nick Moyes (talk) 00:42, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: I read it again, and it does make a lot more sense now! I do apologize for wasting everyone’s time here, and will only ask the Teahouse for help if I really need it... Stay safe and well, --Total Eclipse 2017 ^{(My profile | My contribs | speak to me)} 19:16, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Film studies

Please see Film studies article and fix the FilmComment reference DonGuess (talk) 19:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@DonGuess: What error do you help fixing? RudolfRed (talk) 19:55, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: check the edit history of Film Studies please, I’m not sure the Film Comment link that I added is correct

@DonGuess: I'm guessing that you want the name in italics, so I did that, but it would be better if you could state what you think the error is. RudolfRed (talk) 20:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Thank you! But that’s my own edit and I’m not sure whether FilmComment should be in the list so I would like someone to decide thatDonGuess (talk) 20:27, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Jargon/Best Type of Language to Use?

Hi Everyone,

I was curious about the language style, as I am trying to make updates to pages that "are written like personal essays" and need to be translated to be more "encyclopedia style". I need some guidance about how to provide useful information while not sounding "too technical". I have had a response to one of my edits with one user saying that my technical writing style was great, and another saying it was too difficult to understand. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. LilMew88 (talk) 17:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

I cannot find that anyone has commented that your writing is "too technical" – could you please point out where that comment was made? I have looked through most of your edits and cannot see any place where your writing is overly technical (nor any place where someone has commented on your language use as being technical, but I'm probably missing something). What is a slight issue is that there is sometimes a tendency to use a lot of marketing buzzwords and empty jargon, which is a completely different thing from being "technical", of course – sorry for pointing out utterly obvious things to you :-) . --bonadea contributions talk 21:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Submitting WP Policy Proposals

Where/how can I post a policy proposal? For example this is a failed proposal. I'm not sure how and where to post my own. Hopefully one that won't fail :P

But seriously. I want to post a proposal that prefers apolitical sources to right/left biased ones.  – Chrisvacc - ✆ 13:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Chrisvacc: Probably best to visit the Reliability WikiProject and post on the talk page. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Reliability. You face an uphill battle since feelings about bias vary wildly. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Timtempleton:Well there's a general consensus about the bias of different sources. Like most people would agree that Fox News has a right bias, CNN has a left bias. https://www.adfontesmedia.com/?v=402f03a963ba and even the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources list mentions which sources have bias – Chrisvacc - ✆

@Chrisvacc: No doubt that everyone agrees there's bias, but my point was more good luck getting agreement from everyone about which particular sources are biased. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:08, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:Village pump (proposals) discusses proposals; WP:Village pump (policy) discusses policies. There is also WP:Village pump (idea lab). Please read the headers on those pages to decide where you want to start. Usedtobecool ☎️ 13:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Chrisvacc: most people would agree that Fox News has a right bias, CNN has a left bias. If only that (most people would agree) were true . —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1: Ha. Fair enough. – Chrisvacc - ✆

Is it appropriate to simplify regular wikipedia vocabulary?

For example, one article said ~doing x increased a person's language paradigm by 45~

I want to change that too ~doing x increased a person's language vocab by 45~ Hiveir (talk) 14:25, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Hiveir: Welcome to the Teahouse. It depends on context and the article. Under normal circumstances I'd say yes, but if it's a linguistics-themed article it might be important to keep it that way, as "increasing a person's language vocab by 45" is also unclear; 45 words? 45 percent? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Addendum: Of course, "vocabulary" should be used instead, as "vocab" is not formal English. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Hiveir. "Increased a person's language paradigm by 45" makes absolutely no sense to me, so if I encountered it in an article, I would certainly want to change it - unless the article explained (or at least wikilinked to) the phrase "language paradigm". What I would change it to, I have no idea, without context: it certainly doesn't sound as if it means "vocabulary". What is the article? (Did you not see where the edit box says "Give the full title or URL of any page you're asking about.") A search for "increased a person's language paradigm" gives no hits, so I think you must have mistyped it. --ColinFine (talk) 15:42, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

ColinFine, I was talking more so in general rather than a specific article so i typed it from memory. The article i am talking avout is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_vocabulary#Correlatives. Specifically " Thus by learning these 14 elements the speaker acquires a paradigm of 45 adverbs and pronouns. "--Hiveir (talk) 21:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Hiveir. General questions tend to get less useful answers, because so many things in Wikipedia are determined by individual discretion and consensus. The general answer to your question is "If you think you can improve the wording in a Wikipedia article, by all means go ahead and do so. If somebody disagrees, they may change it back, and then, if you care enough, you can start a discussion with them: see WP:BRD".

In this particular case, I agree that the wording is a bit clumsy, but it certainly means more than just that the learner acquires 45 words: it is giving a "paradigm" (a pattern, if you like) into which those 45 words fit, rather than being 45 arbitrary words. --ColinFine (talk) 23:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Photograph of Professor Ivor Goodson

Hi, can you help with advice, downloading a picture of Professor Ivor Goodson - all best wishes Elizabeth

RE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivor_Goodson Elizabeth fleur briggs (talk) 20:54, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Elizabeth F. Briggs

Elizabeth fleur briggs, I'm not sure what you mean. Where do you want to download it from? Or are you asking for someone to provide a suitable photo?

In any case, the article Ivor Goodson looks more like a CV than an encyclopedia article. Most seriously, it cites no sources at all, and therefore fails to establish that Goodson is notable (please click on that blue word to see how it us used here), and is accordingly in danger of deletion. Maproom (talk) 21:23, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Elizabeth fleur briggs the bigger issue is that you've just copied his CV, which is a copyright violation. In general, Wikipedia cannot access text copied from other sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

And the same question was previously asked and answered here. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Elizabeth fleur briggs: All Wikipedia editors are volunteers giving up their own time. Please only ask once unless you have a specific question on what I told you last time. Thanks, Hillelfrei ^talk 22:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Elizabeth fleur briggs: You evidently have a Conflict of Interest in editing on Ivor Goodson, and are being WP:PAID to do so. Please stop, read both the links I have just given and cease any further editing until such time as you have declared your WP:COI on your userpage, and made the obligatory declaration of PAID EDITING. Looking back at that page's history, I note a number of other accounts over the years which have edited in exactly the same manner as you are doing now by ignoring our rules about inserting copyrighted material into Wikipedia and promoting someone without making a COI declaration. You are wasting volunteer time by making one of our administrators have to clean up after you, and permanently remove copyrighted text. If it happens again you may be blocked from editing. Please stop trying to promote your boss or colleague and, whatever you do, don't take someone else's photograph and try to upload it as your own. Only the original copyright owner may do that, and somehow I doubt that person is you. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

My userpage problem

Hi, everyone. Recently, I face a intimidating problem in my userpage. I can't adjust the position and location of the "my contributions" template properly. I welcome experienced users to help me solve this issue. :-)  Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 10:51, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hypersonic man 11, I did what I guess you were trying to do. Please have a look and see if it is. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 12:19, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks a million, cool guy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hypersonic man 11 (talk • contribs) 02:06, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Biography vs Page

Need help with biography I was trying to create a biography page as we got an email stating that "Good News for you, we think you're eligible for a Wikipedia page.! You have great milestones, and online publications are speaking about you. You deserve to be on Wikipedia, and we are here to deliver that for you. " Basic question is can I change the "Page" to a biography? or it does not matter?

Thank you for your assistance Tc-heart (talk) 15:40, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Tc-heart! Well, the mail sounds like someone who is trying to get some money from you, and we strongly advice against trying to create an autobiograbhy, see WP:AUTO. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:56, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Tc-heart, and welcome to the Teahouse. I don't know who sent you that email, but they appear to know absolutely nothing about Wikipedia. If they are asking you for money, to "put you on Wikipedia" they are either ignorant or dishonest, because they cannot guarnatee that an article about you will be accepted, or that it will say what you want it to.

Nobody in the world "deserves" to be "on Wikipedia", because a Wikipedia article is for the benefit of Wikipedia and its readers, not for the benefit of the subject of the article. writing about yourself is strongly discouraged in Wikipedia. If you are notable in the special sense that Wikipedia uses the word, then there can be an article about you, but it will not belong to you, your are discouraged from writing it yourself (as I said above), and you will have no control over the contents. As your anonymous source suggests, notability is mostly about being written about in different places; but we require that these be reliable sources - published by somebody with a repuation for editorial control and fact checking. Many "online publications" are not reliable in that way, though some are.

If you think that you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and you want us to have an article about you (which you may not: see an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing), then I suggest you collect three or so really solid, subsantion, reliably published sources, completely unconnected with you or any organisation you are involved with, and put a request on requested articles. I will admit, though, that the take-up there is low. --ColinFine (talk) 16:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Tc-heart, I realised I didn't answer your direct question. This was partly because I'm not sure I understood it. Wikipedia is made up of articles, some of which are biographies. We don't use the word "page" much, except as a catch-all term for articles, talk pages, help pages, project pages (like this one) and so on. I'm guessing that what you are asking is whether your user page User:Tc-heart could hold a biography of you? The answer is, no. User pages are separate from the articles that form the encyclopaedia, and there are limitations as to what you may put on them. Your main user page is for you to share any information you choose about you as a Wikipedia editor. A limited amount of biographical information unconnected with Wikipedia is acceptable, but it must not be promotional (for yourself or anything else), and it may not be made to look like an encyclopaedia article. See User pages for what is allowed. --ColinFine (talk) 16:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Lastly, your draft Draft:Dr. Nitza I Alvarez which appears to be an attempt to create an article about yourself, has been nominated for Speedy deletion, meaning that likely soon an Administrator will delete it. This can happen even though you had not submitted it for review yet, is the content is so clearly not up to Wikipedia standards of notability. Attempts at autobiography are strongly discouraged WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. David notMD (talk) 16:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the information, the article is not about myself is about my wife and she is a published author. I did disclose there was personal interest. I will continue to learn and support this platform. Thanks again for your time and warm welcome — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tc-heart (talk • contribs) 02:30, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Wisconsin CVID-19 timeline

Over the past week the number of new COVID-19 cases in Wisconsin has increased rapidly, and today it broke the medical cases chart, which is no longer wide enough to contain the bars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:COVID-19_pandemic_data/United_States/Wisconsin_medical_cases_chart. On the bright side, no members of the Wisconsin Supreme Court are believed to be sick... just their constituents. I don't know how to fix the chart... would one of the Wikipedia gods take a look? Thanks! StanfordPostDoc (talk) 02:36, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

No Wikipedia gods around, but I've resolved it with this edit. The divisor parameter was preventing auto-scaling. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:41, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! StanfordPostDoc (talk) 02:53, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

what protocol should I follow to edit any article

 Pasalaprasad (talk) 02:16, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Pasalaprasad, this page will tell you how it is done.--Quisqualis (talk) 04:26, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Re-Submitting an Article

 Courtesy link: Draft:Night Bass Records

Hello Teahouse! I submitted an article for a record label called 'Night Bass'. The submission was declined because it read too much like an ad. I would still like to re-submit the article. What I'd like to know is - Are there any penalties for editing and submitting an article too many times? My plan is to take a bulk of the article out and cut it down to the real solid facts. Do you think that's an effective course of action? Thanks so much for taking the time in reading this! ZoeShanks (talk) 17:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@ZoeShanks: Welcome to the Teahouse! I'll say work on it as much as you can to cut off the promotional bits (I strongly suggest you read WP:PUFFERY) before sending it back for review. The only real penalty is annoying reviewers who look at drafts with barely any improvement that they start to consider rejecting it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:12, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Thank you so much @Tenryuu this is great info! I checked out that article resubmitted it, and am crossing my fingers :). It's funny, my original submission had 5 of those words!! Just from direct quotes pulled from articles, but I took all of that out. Thank you again! (ZoeShanks (talk) 05:07, 22 May 2020 (UTC))

Hebrew script in first sentence

David Brodman - I’m experienced with Wikipedia, but can someone help writing the date of birth after the name in Hebrew. It doing strange things... SportsOlympic (talk) 20:36, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Fixed @SportsOlympic: --Hillelfrei ^talk 21:40, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Hillelfrei:, thanks but now the day of birth is removed. If I place it back, the same error is there again :( SportsOlympic (talk) 21:49, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@SportsOlympic: I see you just placed it in and I don't see a problem now - is it still displaying wierdly for you? Hillelfrei ^talk 21:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Hillelfrei:, yes, I’m seeing now: “David Brodman (Hebrew:דוד ברודמן) (22 February 1936 - 19 May 2020)” SportsOlympic (talk) 21:54, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@SportsOlympic: What do you want it to say? Hillelfrei ^talk 22:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@SportsOlympic: Looks OK to me, too, except that the correct separator for a date range like that is a spaced endash, which is most easily done with the code 22 February 1936{{Snd}} 19 May 2020, which produces "22 February 1936 – 19 May 2020". Elsewhere, we might combine the alternative name and dates, separated by a semicolon, into the same set of parentheses, but there can be issues with editing tools and left-to-right script in the vicinity of right-to-left script, so if it works this way, I think it's OK (except for the endash issue, that is ). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:36, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

On my iPhone, I’m still seeing “David Brodman (Hebrew:22) (HEBREW NAME February 1936 – 19 May 2020)“ instead of David Brodman (Hebrew:HEBREW NAME) (22 February 1936 – 19 May 2020)“. Maybe there is a difference with different browsers? SportsOlympic (talk) 07:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@SportsOlympic: Sorry – I was lazy and didn't look at the code. Is it better now? I wrapped the Hebrew name in {{Lang-he}} which should tell the browser how to render it correctly. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 08:14, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1:, ahh wow!! Yes, perfect! Thanks! Will use it in other articles :) SportsOlympic (talk) 08:48, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Unable to find my name while searching on wikipedia

Hi All,

I have submitted my docs but unable to find my page on Wikipedia. Could you please let me know why I am not visible on Wikipedia? My User ID: KCSnooker Kcsnooker (talk) 03:08, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Kcsnooker: Your userpage is in your signature. In case you don't know, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that hosts articles; it is not a place to put resumes up of yourself. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:58, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Kcsnooker: Are you referring to User:Kcsnooker/sandbox? Writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is an example of conflict of interest editing and is strongly discouraged. GoingBatty (talk) 05:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

The content you had placed at User:Kcsnooker has been subjected to Speedy deletion. The function of a User page is for a relatively brief description of your intentions as a Wikipedia editor. Some background is allowed, but not a 'profile.' Your Sandbox User:Kcsnooker/sandbox contains a draft of an article about yourself, and has been nominated for Speedy deletion. I you intend to pursue creating an article about yourself, you should contest this as quickly as possible, before an Administrator deletes it. The draft is seriously flawed. It has a personal tone (he did this, he thought that) rather than encyclopaedic, paragraphs are without references, and there is a lot of repetition of content in tables and text. Nothing should be bould except the first use of the subject's name. David notMD (talk) 09:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

AND... deleted as I wrote. You can contact the deleting administrator to ask if you can recover your draft content. David notMD (talk) 09:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Article declined because of missing neutral or relevant sources

Dear All, I recently did write an article about of group of artists I think it would be interesting for the community. I wrote a short brief and did put in 4 links to reliable sources in the Design and Art world (AIGA, Design Observer, Graphic Hug, CalArts Institute). Then it was declined because sources were missing?

What kind of sources should it be then?

Best, Andreas AndreasFrutiger (talk) 07:31, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:Vier5. REALLY short, and sadly, while interviews as sources can be used to provide basic information, do not contribute to notability. In other refs, mention of Vier5 is only a sentence or two. David notMD (talk) 09:32, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I work for an research institute, tried to update the wikipedia page and some editor undid my changes falsely, help?

Blocked

 – Promotional edit reverted, OP blocked until username changes. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 09:36, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I was tasked by my institute director to update our wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterloo_Institute_for_Nanotechnology I made the updates, just about what research we do at the institute and new facilities and published them and within seconds received a notification from an editor (not one associated with the institute) saying my changes were promotional when they are not, I'm stating facts about our institute? I am new to this and very confused on how to publish my changes again or even how to speak with this editor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses about why she thinks something is promotional or against wikipedia policies?

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you! WIN Waterloo (talk) 15:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@WIN Waterloo: Welcome to the Teahouse. I dream of horses was following policy. One thing editors should understand is that articles that relate to them do not belong to them. Furthermore, you are highly discouraged from editing pages that are related to you as you would have a conflict of interest, unless you are the subject and are removing vandalism. Facts need to be sourced in reliable, independent sources; you can go to the article's talk page and submit edit requests to suggest content changes paired with reliable sources. As an aside, if you wish to keep editing here on Wikipedia please change your username, as there is a username policy that forbids editors from using their organisation's name as you have done. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Addendum: I am more inclined to agree with I dream of horses' reversion after taking a glance at what they reverted. The language used was not appropriate for an encyclopedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:20, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Under unintended consequences, the question submitter is now blocked until making a name change. Once that step is completed, must comply with WP:PAID be declaring paid status on User page. And as Tenryuu pointed out, the proper path for a paid editor to pursue changes is to propose content on the article's Talk page (change ____ to ____) so that a non-involved editor can decide to accept or decline the proposed changes. Frustrating as ___? Yes, but required. David notMD (talk) 16:37, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

adding photo

Have a cup of tea and enjoy seeing Commons images on Wikipedia

Please clearly explain how can I add photos in Wikipedia articles. I have seen that directly copy-pasting photos are not working. How in the world are then everyone is adding photos in Wikipedia. How does the title of the picture gets changed, and it becomes jpg. format? Ppt2003 (talk) 14:20, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Ppt2003. I am assuming you have already found an image image you want to use on Wikimedia Commons? If not, go to this main page and type a keyword in the search box (it's at the top right in desktop view). If you find an image you like, but it's not quite the right one, you could click one or more of the "Categories" listed at the very bottom of the page. This helps keep related images together and helps you find others.

It could be like this one of a cup of tea that you want to use. Using an exisiting one is easier that a brand new image of your own that you would first have to upload from scratch. So, click on the link in the previous sentence, or click the photograph you see here - you're taken to the same place - and look just above the picture, and beneath the filename where you'll see a line of five small links. Look for the link with the tiny Wikipedia 'W' logo and the words "Use this file". Click that link and select the text offered to "Use this file on a Wiki as a Thumbnail". (The convention is always to add an image as a thumbnail, no matter how much you'd love to make it larger.) Copy the link to your clipboard and then go to the Wikipedia page you want to add it to (let's assume we want to add it to the page we're on now). Edit the page (ie click the tab labelled Edit Source). Scroll down to the section you'd like to add it to, and paste in the text you copied at the very top of that section. By default, this adds the thumbnail picture and its caption on the right hand side of the page, as you see here. To change the caption text, just edit the text to the right of the vertical bar - or 'pipe'. Don't change the filename.jpg text itself or the image link will be broken. There are some useful links on this help page: Wikipedia:Images with further guidance and tweaks, or detailed layout possibilities at Wikipedia:Picture tutorial.

Of course, if you are using the alternative Visual Editor (which is a bit more WYSIWYG), the process is slightly different. You once again navigate to the section where the image is needed, then, in the editing toolbar, click Insert > Media. At the search bar in the popup that then appears, type the keyword to search for certain image types, or just type in the filename of your image you've already chosen from Wikimedia Commons. Select the image and then click 'Use this image'. Before inserting it you'll be prompted to add a caption. Captions can include hyperlinks, but that's probably best left for another time. I hope this helps.

If you need advice on actually uploading your own image first, that requires a slightly different answer and a mention of copyright issues. Let us know if you need further help on that. Regards from the UK. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:58, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

First edits

Hi everyone, I'm new to the site and would like ask if you could suggest a couple easy options for my first few edits? Thanks! Salaiken (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Salaiken. Welcome to Wikipedia and to the Teahouse. You ask a very sensible question about getting started, which all too few people ever do! Like driving a car, using Wikipedia does take time to get to grips with. Go too fast at first and you tend to crash. We have lots of ways to make improvements, and some of these can be found at the rather daunting-looking Wikipedia:Community portal. But there's a suggested work area there for fixing articles that simply need improvements to spelling or grammar. This could be a great place to start.

But not everyone is good at spelling or grammar, so you could simply look at articles on subjects you are interested in. The first one you look at might seem perfect, but at the bottom of the page in desktop view you'll see some 'Categories'. Click one of those that sounds interesting, and you'll see related articles that also fall into that category. You could browse those too until you find something that needs fixing. But please don't just add 'facts' from your own personal knowledge - everything here needs to be supported with a link to a reliably published source. So resist the temptation to add stuff about your home town that you're unable to prove by reference to a published book or website. Adding citations can be tricky for a complete newcomeer, so I've written what I hope is a simply guide (see WP:EASYREFBEGIN).

A could place to 'get a feel' of how we work is to do The Wikipedia Adventure, and you can collect 15 different badges as you learn the basics of editing. We are here whenever you get stuck or need help with editing. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:12, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

member of parliament

I want to know if member of a parliament is notable enough to be a wikipedia article. I have seen all members of US congress are Wikipedia pages. I want to ask if all 746 members of German parliament Bundestag can be featured in 746 Wikipedia pages. Another thing is that someone who is notable in Spanish or German Wikipedia can be how much notable in the English one. I want to collect info about a French politician, what if I don't know French and google translation is a mess.... in this case, should English rather than French Wikipedia be my source? Ppt2003 (talk) 14:14, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ppt2003: Politicians who have been members of national legislative bodies are generally considered notable, per WP:POLITICIAN. Notability criteria vary between Wikipedias, so be sure the person meets the English Wikipedia criteria before spending time working on a draft. You should use independent reliable sources, and not use Wikipedia as a source, per WP:CIRCULAR. GoingBatty (talk) 15:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ppt2003: As GoingBatty notes, members of national legislatures are considered to be notable- but they still must be discussed in independent reliable sources. Those sources do not need to be in English, German is fine. 331dot (talk) 15:36, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

How to update Range Map?

Dear all,

I am currently curating the wikipedia page of the southern right whale dolphin. What I noticed is that the Range Map is outdated and should be updated (see the distributional map on the IUCN red list page of the southern right whale dolphin). https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/12126/50362558#conservation-actions

Could someone explain which is the best way to update this map? I work from a computer, editing source code.

Thank you in advance.

Best wishes, Mweyn (talk) 15:07, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello and welcome, Mweyn. We're seeing some really great and interesting questions here at the Teahouse today. Thank you for yours. Looking at the two maps, I do note the 2018 IUCN map shows a more northerly distribution of the species between South America and Australasia than is shown on the 2005 Wikipedia graphic, though the change of range is not huge. One easy way (without changing the graphic at all) is simply to expand the text and/or image caption to highlight the small discrepancy.

The second way is to get the graphic updated. There seems to be two versions in use, made/uploaded either by User:Pcb21 or User:Achim Raschka. Both editors seem to still be active today, so might be willing to consider updating the graphic, and replacing it. I'm not convinced either may feel the discrepancy is so huge as to warrant it, but they might.

A third way to get maps created or modified is to put in a request at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop, but I've no idea how they approach such matters. Hope this helps, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Changing of template name, keeping the contents intact

How to change the template, i.e., move a page to another without changing its original contents? For example, i want to make the name of the page 'Sealdah-Sitamarhi Express' instead of Sealdah-Muzaffarpur Express. How can i do it? Roy 953 (talk) 14:37, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Roy 953, to move a page, you click on the "More" tab and the top and select "Move". But why do you want to move that article? The first source cited has the "Muzaffarpur" name in its URL, though it does not actually use either name; the second gives a "Page not found" message, and the third uses the "Muzaffarpur" name. So the consensus is against the change that you want. Maproom (talk) 14:51, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

That is because the article is about Sealdah-Sitamarhi Express, an express train system in Indian Railways. But, the template name has 'Sealdah-Muzaffarpur Express'. This name was relevant when i had first created the page. But now, as the above mentioned train's destination has changed, i wanted to change the template name too Roy 953 (talk) 16:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC) Roy 953 (talk) 16:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Maproom courtesy ping Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:19, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Problem with citation template

In William G. Brown#Writings, the last item, which I just added, says it's a press release and I have no idea why or how to fix it. Thanks. deisenbe (talk) deisenbe (talk) 14:04, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Deisenbe: Can you supply a diff, please? I think you've probably linked to the wrong article. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:21, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Deisenbe: No need. I think I found your edit (you did name the wrong article! - see diff) Now, I'm no expert at all when it comes to templates, but I note on the template's talk page at Template talk:Cite letter#use template wrapper that last year a modification was made which deployed part of {{Cite press release}}. (Exactly what it was doing, is beyond me). However, when I went to the template documentation for Cite letter and compared the accepted fields with those you used, I noticed you had included "type = ", which is not in the documentation for {{Cite letter}}, YET it is shown in that template's syntax in vertical format, but not in horizontal view. (I think that was an error, and that its unwanted presence is causing the problem by invoking the default (Press Release) statement), so I am going to ping @Jonesey95 and Trappist the monk: with the suggestion that they check and resolve this. Meanwhile, just remove "type= "from your use of cite letter, and you should be sorted. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:53, 22 May 2020 (UTC) 

Sorry! It's William G. Allen#Writings, in case anyone else looks for it. i didn't insert "type=", it came when I copied and pasted the template. deisenbe (talk) 17:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

wikimedia commons

When I want to add a wikimedia photo, sometimes - the reuse the photo option magically appears, and reuse the photo option magically disappears. There are five links -file, file history, usage on wikimedia commons, usage on other wikis and metadata. There is no way to add the image on Wikipedia page via the five options. How do I prevent the magical disappearance of reuse the file option?? Ppt2003 (talk) 17:12, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

You may have more success asking the question at Commons, rather than here at enwiki. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:39, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

When I look at a photo in Commons, across the top of the photo is a toolbar saying: "Download/ Use this file/ Use this file/ Email a link/ Information". The second "Use this file" link has a Wikipedia logo alongside it, and the tooltip when I hover over the link says: "Use this file on a wiki". I don't know what you mean by the "reuse the photo option", but (as I said above) you may get more help from the experts at Commons. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Chlamydia felis Draft

Hi, I am a new user. I made a draft for a current stub page on Wikipedia for a class and I am unsure how I should publish it. I apparently tried to publish it in an incorrect way. How should I make these edits public? Should I just go to the original stub page and edit it directly there? Fairy faecalis (talk) 17:42, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Draft:Chlamydia felis was declined because the article Chlamydia felis already exists, and the advice you were given was to improve it there instead. If you don't feel confident in editing the article directly you can make suggestions at Talk:Chlamydia felis. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:55, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

How to add a YouTube link?

The video I need to give a link to is named "David Lynch talks Mulholland Drive"--DonGuess (talk) 17:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC) DonGuess (talk) 17:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello again DonGuess. That depends on exactly how you want to use the link.

Do you want to place it in an "External links" section? YouTube links are sometimes, but far from always, appropriate for such a section. One must carefully check for copyright issues, as Wikipedia articles should not link to copyright infringements. In such a case one may simply add to the external, links section a link to the YouTube url for the video, just like any other external link.

Do you want to use the link as a reference source? That is possible only if the person or organization that posted the page is a reliable publisher, so that the YouTube video is a reliable source. Most Yo9uTube videos are not considered reliable, but some are, for example broadcast segments posted on the official channel of a news publisher such as a TV network is as reliable as anything from that publisher. In that case you may use {{Cite AV media}} muich like any other citation template.

Do you want to place it in the body of an article? That is not normally appropriate. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:27, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Desiegel, I would like to add it to external links of Mulholland Drive, the video is an interview, but it’s not clear when and by who was it taken. On the other hand Wikipedia blocks my edit with an external link to YouTube.DonGuess (talk) 18:35, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

DonGuess If you don't know when or by whom the video was taken, you don't know who holds the copyright, and so you don't know if it was uploaded to YouTube by or with the permission of the copyright holder. Therefore you should not link to it. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:51, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

But what if I want someone on Wikipedia to help me find the source of the interview?DonGuess (talk) 19:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm not a professional Wikipedian nor am I a Teahouse host but I think I have some meaningful advice. If your hoping for other Wikipedians to find the source of the info, ask this same question on the Wikipedia talk page of the Wikipedia page you want to attach the link to. Again, I am not at all a professional Wikipedian, moderator, or any thing of that sort but I do think this should solve your problem. With the best of luck, Dantheanimator (talk) 19:40, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Ask at the Reference Desk, DonGuess - either Entertainment or Miscellaneous. --ColinFine (talk) 19:42, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Submitting a new article for review

Resolved

 – Draft was accepted as an article. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I have written an article on Draft:HMS Leander (1848) to fill the gap in the list of HMS Leanders.

I would like to have it reviewed for publication.

Also I have uploaded a photograph of it to Wikimedia Commons but cannot get the link to work in my article.

The 'Leander' at the entrance of Balaklava harbour, 1855 GrognardJeff (talk) 02:59, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@GrognardJeff: Welcome to the Teahouse! I see that Tenryuu kindly submitted the draft for you. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@GrognardJeff: I also see the file you uploaded at Commons:File:The 'Leander' at the entrance of Balaklava harbour, 1855.jpg, but I don't know where you want it in your draft. GoingBatty (talk) 05:31, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I've tried inserting it in the Crimean War section, but must be missing something about Image insertion syntax and names with ' in them. Newystats (talk) 05:50, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Update: @GrognardJeff: Your draft was accepted and is now in mainspace. Congratulations! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:23, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Deleted article

Hi. Today I edited an article called “Vile vortices” that seems to have been deleted a couple hours ago. What happened?

Can someone put the article back? Dharmadha2 (talk) 17:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

If you look at your list of contributions you will see that the article you were editing was Vile vortex, not Vile vortices. The article has not been deleted; its history shows that it has been redirected, and a comment at Talk:Vile vortex gives the logic for the redirection. If you disagree you can discuss it at the article talk page or on the talk page of the editor who did the redirection. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:03, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I merged some of the redirected article content, and added the term to the lead, per WP:ASTONISH. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:36, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Black's Reader Book Company

I'm wondering what it is. 2600:1700:DA00:3AC0:59B0:98BE:6301:BED (talk) 20:50, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. The Teahouse is a place where newcomers can ask questions about editing and using Wikipedia. It does not seem like Wikipedia has an article on Black's Reader Book Company. If you can narrow your query, the folks over at the Reference desk may be able to help you. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:53, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

It is likely Black's Readers Service Company by publisher Walter J. Black (republished classic books). 107.15.157.44 (talk) 21:53, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

After a quick Google search, I can't find any coverage of Black's Readers Service Company or Walter J. Black that could support an article about them, but their books are very prolific in the resale market. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:57, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

how to insert an image?

Hi there,

I have edited this page in the past but now can't remember how to change the image. Please let me know.

Thank you.

Farrah (Joyab) Joyab (talk) 21:36, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Joyab: This should help you Wikipedia:Images#Tutorials and help. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:53, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Farrah. I see that you had the tenacity to develop Bahman Tavoosi, and get it accepted on the fourth attempt, back in 2014: well done. But noticing that that is the only article you have ever edited, I can't help wondering if you have some connection with Tavoosi. If you have (and especially if you are in any way paid to edit this article, or it is part of your employment), please read our policy on editing with a conflict of interest. If you are not connected with him, then I suggest you create your User page, and explain that on it - so that other people with suspicious minds like mine won't come bothering you again. --ColinFine (talk) 23:01, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Requesting help to see if the 2nd draft of my article meets the WP:NPOV and WP:TONE criteria before I resubmit it

Dear Teahouse hosts,

The first draft of my article Draft: Nipun Malhotra (social entrepreneur) was declined on the ground of WP:NPOV and WP:TONE issues. Based on the feedback received and after reading multiple articles, I have tried and changed the writing style extensively. Please note that I have also looked at other similar pages to understand the accepted format. (I'd be happy to share the details of the pages I have referred to in case that's required.)

I'm writing to request one of you to kindly go through my edited draft to see if this is worth resubmitting. Following is the relevant link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nipun_Malhotra_(social_entrepreneur)

Thank you! Nipman (talk) 12:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Nipman. Welcome to the Teahouse. If you writing an article about yourself, stop. In the eyes of Wikipedia, this is called a conflict of interest which means you have a personal connection with the subject. Someone else will end up writing an article for you if you are notable. Please see our policy on autobiographies. Interstellarity (talk) 13:06, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

The actual wording at WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY is "Writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is an example of conflict of interest editing and is strongly discouraged." Which is not the same as prohibited. I did some formatting work on the article. I suggest you consider resubmitting it now that you have also removed POV and tone content, and see what the next reviewer has to say. David notMD (talk) 13:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Nipman: I did some more cleanup on style issues and also some copy-editing. I've left some maintenance tags (search for "clarif" and "which?") in areas that I thought were unclear or needed expansion. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear @Interstellarity: , Just to keep you informed, my article does not violate WP:COI in any manner. My user name might have confused you. However, I've thought of a more apt username for my account. I've read WP:CHUG and will make the changes after this article is over (in order to avoid any confusion). It was a random decision while creating my account. But thank you for the guidance! Nipman (talk) 06:08, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear @David notMD: and @AlanM1:, Thank you so much for all your help and support. The article looks so much better with your formatting and cleanup. And the maintenance tags are quite self explanatory to understand what's wrong with my draft. I will make all the necessary changes based on your feedback and resubmit my article. Thank you once again. Nipman (talk) 06:08, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear @David notMD: and @AlanM1:, I have accommodated all the suggested changes in the article to the best of my understanding. This is how my article looks now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nipun_Malhotra_(social_entrepreneur) If any of you could kindly skim through it once, I will feel much more confident in re-submitting this article. Sharing it with you guys because you invested your time and energy in this. Thank you! Nipman (talk) 13:13, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Needs a ref at the end of the Awards text. David notMD (talk) 02:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

@David notMD: Sure, I'll put one. Thank you!

Query about neutral tone in an article

Hello - I am writing to ask if someone could help me with my edit of this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Esuantsiwa_Jane_Goldsmith

It has been declined as apparently the tone is not neutral enough for an encyclopedia article. I think I have identified the key points which need amending or deleting but I would really like to check this with someone if advice is available, to give myself the best chance of getting it right with the next submission. If anyone is available to advise me I would be very grateful. I have noted the points I think may be problematic below (highlighting in bold the key words in longer sentences) and it would be great if anyone could confirm if these sound like they are breaching the formal / neutral tone guidelines.

Many thanks! I am new to Wikipedia so any guidance appreciated.

Esua has had a lifetime career in the aid and development movement, human rights and women’s equality.

She was founder staff member of the National Alliance of Women’s organisations 1990-95, which brought more than 300 members and women’s organisations together across the UK, and helped to spearhead the formation of the European Women’s Lobby.

In 1995 Esua founded Anona Development Consultancy and has worked with over 100 different not-for-profit organisations on five continents, developing global strategies for WaterAid, Oxfam and ActionAid among many others. She is also an experienced public speaker on issues relating to equality and human rights, including a recent Keynote speech at the Governance Institute Charity Governance Conference 2019[2].

Esua has founded, Chaired and served on the Board of a number of prominent feminist groups and women’s organisations. she introduced new feminist, participatory approaches to governance.[to the Fawcett society]

Esua has set up a fund to raise money for community development projects, such as schools and public bathrooms for the Village Katecmorrison (talk) 14:09, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Katecmorrison, haven't studied the whole draft but what gave me direct attention is that the section "feminist activist" is almost unsourced, you should definitely try to add some reliable sources to this section before resubmitting. CommanderWaterford (talk) 14:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I shall add in some more sources to that section. All the best, Kate.Katecmorrison (talk) 14:57, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Katecmorrison: In addition, the "Early life" and "University of Leicester" sections are completely unsourced, and much of the "Career" section is unsourced. To negate your conflict of interest, I suggest you start over by simply summarizing what the independent reliable sources say, and provide the appropriate inline citations. GoingBatty (talk) 15:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

A common error is to first write what you know to be true, and then trying to patch in references after. Also, you are over-linking, as in Wikilinking common words ("aid") and repeating to link each time you name an organization. Too much blue! David notMD (talk) 02:36, 23 May 2020 (UTC)