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January 7

Category:Hairston family (baseball)

Nominator's rationale: The Hairston family category had been deleted in 2007 and then was recreated with the unnecessary disambiguator in 2015. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:02, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Now Is the Time (Brenda Fassie album)

Nominator's rationale: Misuse of category namespace —swpbT • go beyond • bad idea 18:59, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Amadlozi Brenda Fassie Album

Nominator's rationale: Incorrect use of category space —swpbT • go beyond • bad idea 18:48, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:LGBT Marxists

Nominator's rationale: Possible WP:OCEGRS. —swpbT • go beyond • bad idea 18:23, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:State-owned enterprises of China

Nominator's rationale: Fix the undiscussed move by Störm. The parent cat is located at Category:Government-owned companies by country. The old name was Category:Government-owned companies of China. I can't find any discussion to move to Category:State-owned enterprises of China. Matthew hk (talk) 16:24, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Nothing to do with parent cat. We can have different names depending on the convention used by that particular country. You may read WP:BOLD because it was obvious move. There is plenty of coverage supporting State-owned enterprises (SOEs) of China. Even their official state media uses it. Who are you to object to it? Störm (talk) 16:29, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia use secondary source. Also, bold move should place in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy, not move it yourself. Given my watch list is full of your edit. Matthew hk (talk) 16:31, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also, most of those companies were in fact owned and regulated by SASAC of the State Council (central government) and SASAC of the provincial government, plus companies owned by Ministry of Finance and Ministry of Education of the State Council. Thus the original wording "Government-owned companies of foo" is correct for China's SOE. Matthew hk (talk) 16:41, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Churches by city (other continents, dual merge)

more categories nominated
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, all the above categories only contain 1 article and/or 1 subcategory. See also this earlier nomination which is still open for discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose WP:SMALLCAT is for small categories with no potential for growth, but many of these categories have plenty of potential for growth. Bangkok, Taipei, Tianjin, and Xi'an, etc. are giant cities with plenty of notable churches. Just because articles do not exist now does not mean they won't be created in the future. -Zanhe (talk) 09:25, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is quite likely that there are more churches in these cities than currently have an article in Wikipedia. But more notable churches, where is the evidence of that? Note that the far majority of churches is not notable. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:49, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Churches by city (miscellaneous countries, 1 merge target)

more categories nominated
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, the categories only contain 1 article and/or 1 subcategory. In the above cases only one merge target has been specified, because the content is already sufficiently categorized in a denominational churches category of a broader region. For example, the only article of Category:Churches in Ankara is already part of Category:Roman Catholic churches in Turkey so it does not require merging to Category:Churches in Turkey. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Articles by WikiProject

Nominator's rationale: Standard for administrative categories versus the actual content of the encyclopedia. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:21, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose as the nomination is incorrect; there are many "Category:WikiProject Foo articles" categories (i.e. that don't have the word "Wikipedia"). Two of the current parent category tags should be removed. I might support deletion instead (as the category appears to be rather pointless). DexDor (talk) 16:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment @Koavf: No opposition to the change as the category creator, but think a more important change is to rename the child categories that don't state they are Wikiproject categories, e.g. Category:El Salvador articles. SFB 01:11, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯxplicit 04:05, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Tropical house singers

Nominator's rationale: The parent isn't in need of diffusing and there is no Category:House singers or Category:Deep house singers, just Category:House musicians and Category:Deep house musicians. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 03:42, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars, for example, Category:Synthpop musicians to Category:Synthpop singers and Category:Hip hop musicians to Category:Hip hop singers. It need to start new.-- Happypillsjr ✉ 04:30, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Those are highly populated categories (both parent "musicians" and child "singers") with necessary diffusion. In this case, a sub-subgenre no less, there are not that many articles in the target and no similar scheme for parent genres. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 15:01, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Live at The Fillmore albums

Nominator's rationale: See (e.g.) all subcats of Category:Live albums by venue in the United States ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:40, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. I thought maybe there was an actual series of "Live at the Fillmore" albums, in which a subset of the albums within would be appropriately categorized, but that doesn't appear to be the case. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 03:22, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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