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A quick skim of black hole related articles turned up something odd: BKL singularity (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is linked from Schwarzschild metric and rotating black hole, even though to the best of my knowledge it's a) not related (it was a proposed mechanism replacing cosmic inflation) and b) not presently widely accepted. The link from general relativity is also probably undue.

That said, I'm not familiar enough with the literature to comment with certainty on how noteworthy or not this concept is. Anyone else care to look at it (and through the "what links here" list)? --Christopher Thomas (talk) 19:21, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

The BKL conjecture was significant in that it was the state of the art on singularities in GR before the work of Hawking and Penrose. The link in GR seems perfectly due. However, some of the other see also links are rather dubious.TR 06:16, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Ok; it's probably worth editing BKL singularity itself to make its historical context clearer, as right now the lede reads like a puff piece while giving no indication of its place in the development of known solutions in GR. --Christopher Thomas (talk) 06:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I don't see too much puff there. It gives an accurate description of what the solution is. Note that the BKL type solutions are not just of historical significance, but still play a role in various areas of research including investigations of cosmological averaging and loop quantum cosmology. Also note, that with this I am scraping the barrel of knowledge of the subject. (Making any editing on my part a rather large project involving lots of research, and time which I don't have).TR 07:17, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
The lede is the main part that bothers me, as it has words that come across as "This solution is much spiffier than other other solutions that you've heard of!", without making it clear that that's because this solution was derived _later_, performing a more complicated analysis after removing one of the assumptions (isotropy) of the Friedmann solution. Indeed, its relation to other solutions is buried deep in the prose of sections 1 and 2. In an ideal world, the lede would make context clearer and there'd be a brief history section, but in an ideal world I'd be getting tenure offers from Equestria.
I respect the fact that you'd rather not rewrite things; I've been in a similar position for quite a while now. Thanks for your response, as it's reassured me that nothing cranky is going on. --Christopher Thomas (talk) 09:54, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Watchlist broken

The watchlists on the toolserver are not available because the user account tim1357 has expired. Until that is fixed, here is an alternative based on an expanded index of physics articles:

Unfortunately, they needed splitting because of the length of the list. RockMagnetist (talk) 23:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey, over at In the news (from the Main Page) we'd like to post about the 2012 Nobel Prize laureates in Physics, but the articles need to have more content about each's research (especially what they worked on to deserve the award). We'd like someone - ideally with experience in this area or physics in general - to add more about what each has done. Examples of what this looks like is Shinya_Yamanaka#Professional_career or Brian_Kobilka#Research. Thanks in advance for any help you could provide! SpencerT♦C 20:53, 11 October 2012 (UTC)