Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive103

YehudaTelAviv64

YehudaTelAviv64 has been warned of discretionary sanctions in topic area and is admonished for use of the term "vandalism" and should instead assume good faith. Reporter Biosketch is cautioned to use recent behavior in making good faith reports on AE. --WGFinley (talk) 19:09, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
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Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning YehudaTelAviv64 User who is submitting this request for enforcement —Biosketch (talk) 23:08, 2 December 2011 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested YehudaTelAviv64 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Sanction or remedy to be enforced WP:ARBPIA#General_1RR_restriction Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 14:49, 1 December 2011 – revert of this edit by me 10:23, 2 December 2011 – revert of this edit by User:George 17:49, 2 December 2011 – probably also a revert revert of this edit by User:Jiujitsuguy Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required) Warned on 1 December 2011 by me, followed by this message by Admin:EdJohnston. Additional comments by editor filing complaint The user's behavior is aggressive and hostile, and his edits at Golan Heights and Holocaust-related articles articles could be considered POV-oriented. Additionally, there've been concerns he's masquerading as a new user under false pretenses.—Biosketch (talk) 23:08, 2 December 2011 (UTC) After being formally advised by an Admin of ARBPIA sanctions, YTA64 continues to edit-war against consensus at Golan Heights: 04:21, 4 December 2011 – partial revert of the same infobox content that he's been edit-warring over since he started editing the article a few days ago 06:22, 4 December 2011 – and again, same thing—Biosketch (talk) 09:54, 4 December 2011 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested Notified.—Biosketch (talk) 23:18, 2 December 2011 (UTC) Discussion concerning YehudaTelAviv64 Statement by YehudaTelAviv64 This user is hounding me in response to me reporting him for edit warring here in the Administrators noticeboard. Also, he calls my removal of an image with clear copyright violations a revert of an edit [1] from May 16, 2011. It's entirely unreasonable to call my removal of that image a revert, especially since I had never even heard of that edit until Biosketch hunted it down for this ridiculous witch-hunt. I went through a lot of work to track down the origin of that image and I found that it is a Rights Managed photo that is part of the Hulton-Deutsch Collection/CORBIS collection. Biosketch himself recommended that that image be deleted. Biosketch is just hounding me for the sake of hounding me. The same is also true for the third diff he links to. I tracked down the copyright violation (it's a Corbis Rights Managed photo) and removed the image from the article. Biosketch then tracked down some ancient edit from February 2011 and claimed the image removal was a revert of that. The first diff he links to was an edit where I undid a revert that he himself made and did not bother to discuss on the talk page. He also did not link to his revert here. I opened a discussion regarding my edit immediately, but Biosketch did not bother to link to that discussion when he opened this request. I was very clear in my image removal edit summaries that they were clear copyright violations. I suspect that Biosketch threw those edits into this request as part of his hounding efforts to make it make it more difficult to respond to this request by adding spurious accusations to refute. He must have seen those edit summaries. Furthermore, "concerns he's masquerading as a new user under false pretenses" refers to these [2] [3] personal attacks that I reported here in Wikiquette assistance. Also, he accused me of "aggressive and hostile" and "POV-oriented" edits but then did not point out any instances of this. I would appreciate it if someone could stop Biosketch from hounding me so I can instead spend my time on constructive edits. YehudaTelAviv64 (talk) 04:21, 3 December 2011 (UTC) In response to EdJohnston: I agree and think that Biosketch just created this request to hound me. However, technically, you shouldn't be editing in the "Result concerning YehudaTelAviv64" section since you are actually an involved administrator. As part of Biosketch's "Additional comments" he mentions "concerns he's masquerading as a new user under false pretenses." Those false accusations include one by you here. YehudaTelAviv64 (talk) 04:31, 3 December 2011 (UTC) In response to WGFinley: I was hasty in labeling the edit I reverted "vandalism", but I only did that in the edit summary. When I opened a discussion in the talk page I used more accurate language. YehudaTelAviv64 (talk) 04:36, 3 December 2011 (UTC) Comments by others about the request concerning YehudaTelAviv64 Comment by Sean.hoyland I don't understand your reaction to the questions about whether you have edited before and your statements about lack of evidence. You look like a sockpuppet because your edits are not like those of a new user. The observational evidence suggests that you are not a new user. Every edit you make is one more piece of evidence that you aren't a new user. So, they aren't evidenceless statements. They're statements based on observations by experienced rational observers using heuristic methods that have a near 100% success rate. In other words, people know what sockpuppets look like and you look like one. You could simply say whether or not you have edited under a previous account and if you have, tell people what it was and move on. You haven't done that yet. You've confirmed that you aren't a Pelican which has at least ruled out one of the large water birds but while questions remain unanswered and you find yourself in conflict with other users, partly because of their doubts and partly because of your responses to them, my concern is that your presence will attract sockpuppets to the topic area who will justify their presence by your presence. Editors could also use it as yet another excuse to do nothing about the long term repeat offender sockpuppetry by people whose views they agree with. If you just answer the question, edit constructively and don't come into conflict with other editors, people might just leave you alone. Sean.hoyland - talk 06:23, 3 December 2011 (UTC) I act insulted when people accuse me of being a sockpuppet because it's insulting to my intelligence. A stupid person would have trouble understanding Wikipedia formatting right off the bat and these accusers point to my correct formatting as proof of sock-puppetry. I have never edited under a previous account. I'm astounded that people are surprised that I was able to learn about formatting from Wikipedia's pages on formatting and by looking at other formatting in articles. This is not complicated stuff. Your "100% success rate" figure sounds made up. I am not a sockpuppet, time to move on people. I've been accused of both pro-Israel bias and anti-Israel bias now, and that was just for my constructive edits. I'd like to spend more time working on my constructive edits, but it's difficult when confused editors hound me with false accusations. YehudaTelAviv64 (talk) 07:19, 3 December 2011 (UTC) Okay, since you've said that you've not edited under a previous account that is all I wanted to hear, thank you. And if you could continue to edit in a way that results in you being accused of both pro-Israel bias and anti-Israel bias that would be great. Sean.hoyland - talk 08:41, 3 December 2011 (UTC) It appears the pelican remark is because an editor accused Yehuda of being User:Supreme Deliciousness whose user page features an image of a pelican. What I will say is that what seems more relevant to me is how the editor has used various templates and policy references. My impression from the editor's actual usage of formatting is that this is not an experienced editor. The way the editor started out citing sources, for instance, is similar to how I started out with citations. Using the ref tags and simple brackets around a plain link rather than a more complex citation template does not suggest an experienced editor. Also, any editor who brushes up against a serious dispute is likely to end up becoming very familiar with policy very quickly. Even so, the manner in which Yehuda pursued policy actions again does not demonstrate familiarity. He went to AN/I to report an ArbCom violation. If this was an editor familiar with the dispute and familiar with Wikipedia it is not likely that he would have been unaware that AE is the place to file such reports. None of this editor's contributions appear to be particularly problematic or tendentious. Seems this is more a case of WP:BITE than anything else.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 07:44, 3 December 2011 (UTC) Comment by Shrike Did the user broke 1RR? [4] [5] Comment by Cptnono Reverts are reverts. He was right to make them (copyvio is a major concern) but it is not exempt from edit warring in the topic area. To block or ban would be silly since he was not being malicious but don't give a strait pass on it. Wikipedia is not supposed to be a bureaucracy but when editing in this topic area it is. It should have been "hey YehudaTelAviv64, next time make the revert but follow it up immediately with a request for assistance from the community". He was actually right says consensus but we all know editors have assumed (and edit warred) over copyright violations when it is undetermined. Being proactive by seeking the proper channels (there is a whole group of Wikipedians who look out for potential copyvios) would have been better than what resulted. I think admins should be a little more blunt in their warnings on this. Yes, he thought he was right. But he may not be right next time. Make the revert if you are confident that it is for the good of the project but make sure to follow it up in the appropriate channels. It may not matter in other topic areas but it matters here since not following protocol ends in requests for enforcement of the arbitration decision. That does not help anyone. Result concerning YehudaTelAviv64 This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above. Diff 1 is troubling, with the "vandalism" comment, will await his response. Diff 2 and Diff 3 the user was right, they are copyvios [6] [7] and appear to be on their way out at Commons. The sock allegation has no proof submitted, you'll need to provide more info or go to WP:SPI if you have evidence believing the user to be a sock. Appears an admonition about reverts in P-I space and use of the term "vandalism" are in order. --WGFinley (talk) 01:45, 3 December 2011 (UTC) YehudaTelAviv64 has now been warned of the discretionary sanctions under ARBPIA, per the result of an AN3 case. In case any discretionary sanctions are deemed necessary, they can only be based on edits which take place subsequent to this warning. I agree that some of Y's reverts are justified by valid concern about copyright violation, so those should not count against the 1RR limit. I don't see anything in the present AE complaint that would justify a block of YehudaTelAviv64. EdJohnston (talk) 04:09, 3 December 2011 (UTC) I find the tactic of digging out months-old diffs buried in the page history to be particularly distasteful. T. Canens (talk) 00:27, 4 December 2011 (UTC) Agreed. --WGFinley (talk) 19:02, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Editor75439

Topic banned indefinitely
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Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning Editor75439 User who is submitting this request for enforcement MastCell Talk 18:18, 4 December 2011 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested Editor75439 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Sanction or remedy to be enforced Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and intelligence#Case amendments (discretionary sanctions) Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it Editor75439 (talk · contribs) is a single-purpose account. Over the 5 days since this account's creation, it has made several hundred edits focusing solely on William Herbert Sheldon and his claims about somatotype and constitutional psychology. I believe that this topic clearly falls under the WP:ARBR&I discretionary sanctions ("the intersection of race/ethnicity and human abilities and behaviour, broadly construed"). This account's edits consistently remove (well-sourced) negative information and attempt to present this topic in an unduly favorable light. For instance, here he removes two New York Times citations, leaving the article essentially unsourced. (The Times states that Sheldon's claims have "long been dismissed by most scientists as quackery", a conclusion which is unacceptable to Editor75439). He seeks to replace the content of these reliable sources with his personal opinion (that "Sheldon's somatotypology is the de-facto standard in modern developmental psychology.") He has edit-warred to remove the Times source; see [8], where he uses a false and deceptive edit summary (the quote is not from a "former Ivy League student", as even the briefest perusal of the source confirms). He was blocked for edit-warring to remove this sourced material on 3 December; since the block expired, he has immediately resumed edit-warring to remove the sources and material, with no further discussion ([9], [10], [11]). He clearly places his personal viewpoint above that of reliable sources (e.g. edit summary here), and has edit-warred to remove those reliable sources and replace them with his personal beliefs. His talkpage contributions (which start here) are less than constructive: "your capacity to add any meaningful contributions to Wikipedia is at best disputable." "Arguments like 'but I know' is a typical weasel arguments used by people with bloated self-esteem. Could you do us all a favour and refrain from infesting this article with your weasels?" Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required) Warned on 2 December by MastCell (talk · contribs). Additional comments by editor filing complaint This is a single-purpose agenda account edit-warring to remove well-sourced information and to promote their personal beliefs. Since their behavior contravenes a large percentage of our content and behavioral policies, I think administrative action is warranted even in the absence of discretionary sanctions. Since the article falls under discretionary sanctions, the bar should be if anything a bit lower for dealing with this kind of editing. I would request a topic ban or, failing that, a 1RR restriction to at least tamp down the agenda-driven edit-warring to a manageable level. MastCell Talk 18:18, 4 December 2011 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested [12] Discussion concerning Editor75439 Statement by Editor75439 Comments by others about the request concerning Editor75439 The user in question has failed to follow Wikipedia policy multiple times, even after warnings, ranging from NPOV (removal of critical material, particularly material critical of fringe theories) to failing to discuss massive changes on the talk page to engaging in personal attacks (see Talk:Somatotype and constitutional psychology#Removed material not mentioned in the original source, self-published references; copyright status?). Most of the material this user has newly added (after the block was lifted) is extremely similar or identical to the previously-removed (for original syntheses, material not in citations, etc) material, thus being a de facto reversion. I have attempted to do some repair work on the article, including placing back in some critical material removed by Editor75439; we will see whether the user in question (if allowed) removes, reverts, or otherwise alters it from NPOV. Allens (talk) 18:29, 4 December 2011 (UTC) Apparently they are continuing down that road. See diff [13] et seq. De728631 (talk) 18:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC) And similarly on Somatotype and constitutional psychology; see diffs [14], [15]. I will, of course, refrain from further reversions of this material (at least while this user is allowed to be active), not wishing to engage in an edit war; it is unfortunate that this leaves some citations not properly formatted (I had been trying to turn this user's block quotes into proper citations with, if desired, quote portions). Allens (talk) 18:59, 4 December 2011 (UTC) Result concerning Editor75439 This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above. Topic banned indefinitely. NW (Talk) 18:58, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

FergusM1970

FergusM1970 (talk · contribs) blocked 24 hours and topic-banned from articles within the scope of WP:TROUBLES for three months. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:38, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
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Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning FergusM1970 User who is submitting this request for enforcement Mo ainm~Talk 10:11, 6 December 2011 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested FergusM1970 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Sanction or remedy to be enforced Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles#Final remedies for AE case Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 09:08, 6 December 2011 Revert #1 to FergusM1970's version 09:33, 6 December 2011 Revert #2 to FergusM1970's version 09:49, 6 December 2011 Revert #3 to FergusM1970's version 09:58, 6 December 2011 Revert #4 to FergusM1970's version 10:03, 6 December 2011 Revert #5 to FergusM1970's version Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required) Warned on 09:43, 6 December 2011 by Mo ainm (talk · contribs) Additional comments by editor filing complaint Edit warring against consensus and against multiple editors. My offer for him to self-revert and avoid being reported was met with this and revert #4. Since starting this request editor has now made a fifth revert in a 24 hour period.. Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested Notification of this request Discussion concerning FergusM1970 Statement by FergusM1970 The city is called Londonderry. That's it's legal name. There is no dispute about this, therefore it's ridiculous for people to insist that the nickname "Derry" is given prominence over the actual name. Multiple editors acting together to force me to either break 3RR or leave false information in an article is abusive. I request that the users who have reverted my edits are required to prove that the city is NOT properly named Londonderry, and that if they cannot do this they are subjected to appropriate sanctions. --FergusM1970 (talk) 11:38, 6 December 2011 (UTC) Comments by others about the request concerning FergusM1970 You'd think someone so obsessed with accuracy wouldn't replace the text "While the city is more usually known as Derry" with "also called Derry by Irish nationalists" despite the references he removed saying "but today most people just call it Derry, whatever their politics" and "Popular opinion has it that nationalists call it Derry while Protestants call it Londonderry. However, as with most things in Northern Ireland, it's not always as simple as that. Many Protestants also refer familiarly to the city as Derry". Of course we (well, most of us I hope) all can see therefore the edits aren't related to accuracy at all, but FergusM1970 editing based on his own opinions. WP:ROPE springs to mind with this editor, based on his current talk page posts I'm not brimming with confidence that the behaviour won't continue once his current block expires, so we'll probably be back here again in a few days time I think.... 2 lines of K303 13:15, 6 December 2011 (UTC) Result concerning FergusM1970 This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above. I've enacted a short (standard 24hrs) block to stop the edit-warring, because FergusM1970 had already broken 3RR and seemed unwilling to stop. I'll leave this open for the moment to determine if further discretionary sanctions are appropriate. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:56, 6 December 2011 (UTC) So, lemme see. The guy has two prior blocks for revert-warring, one back in 2009 (on a political topic broadly related to British national politics) and another (though on an unrelated topic) as recently as a month ago. He's showing an aggressive and inflexible "I'm right, you're wrong" stance and unwillingness to consider established consensus. This [16] edit appears quite unacceptable to me. I also find this [17] edit troublesome, as its reference to "people who don't like the laws of the land they choose to live in", directed at Northern Irish republicans, displays a highly hostile and divisive attitude. Any objections against a topic ban? The area is now not only under the old Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles#Final remedies for AE case but also under Standard discretionary sanctions. Has the necessary warning paperwork be done to apply those? Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:18, 6 December 2011 (UTC) Seems he was warned but he did exactly 3 reverts after the warning. I'm on the fence about it and might be inclined to admonish as oppose to sanction. --WGFinley (talk) 15:12, 6 December 2011 (UTC) "Only" three reverts after the warning? I'm not sure how that is supposed to be a mitigating factor. This means he had already broken 1RR before the warning, so even a single revert after it was two too many. Plus breaking normal 3RR too. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:24, 6 December 2011 (UTC) (edit conflict)I think that the warning (issued at 09:43 Dec 6 UTC) is fair notification, and I think you must be mistaken WGFinley - the WP:TROUBLES ruling imposes a 1rr on all articles related to it - he was in breach that ruling before the warning. He then reverted 3 times after the notification[18][19][20], thus he is well into sanctionable territory. Support topic ban based on this and on the battleground mentality evidenced by FPaS--Cailil talk 15:31, 6 December 2011 (UTC) I agree that FergusM1970 has clearly broken the 1RR, which needs no warning. By continuing to revert after Mo ainm gave him a warning on his talk page that linked to the WP:TROUBLES arbcom case, Fergus opened himself up to regular discretionary sanctions. It seems to me that, given how determined he is, a three-month restriction from the Troubles articles could be justified. EdJohnston (talk) 15:46, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Jonchapple

Jonchapple blocked for six weeks by HJ Mitchell for edit warring. AGK [•] 10:41, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
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Request concerning Jonchapple User who is submitting this request for enforcement Domer48'fenian' 21:00, 7 December 2011 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested Jonchapple (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Sanction or remedy to be enforced Arbitration Enforcement Topic Ban Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 7 December 2011 Editor is Topic Banned from "All articles related to The Troubles, defined as: any article that could be reasonably construed as being related to The Troubles, Irish nationalism, and British nationalism in relation to Ireland..." as of 11:41, 20 October 2011 6 October 2011 While adding the fact tags are questionable considering their ban, removing the text is violating their ban. 6 December 2011 Again, this has been a matter of some dispute and is also subject to the Topic Ban. Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required) Warned on20 October 2011 by KillerChihuahua (talk · contribs) explicit warning on flags Warned on20 October 2011 by KillerChihuahua (talk · contribs) Warned on 29 October 2011 by EdJohnston (talk · contribs) Warned on 14 October 2011 by EdJohnston (talk · contribs) Additional comments by editor filing complaint This editor was given a topic ban on 20 October 2011 for violating the terms of their Arbitration enforced probation. They were explicitly warned about the issue of flags and some of the diff's used during the Arbitration which imposed the topic ban were on exactly the same article herehere. Having been topic banned, they were then blocked by Arbitration for 3 weeks for violating the ban and imposed by Mkativerata here. Despite this block, they then launch a personal attack on me describing me as a sympathisers of terror. Regardless of the fact that they have been already warned by Arbitration for another personal attack on me, I actually let this go despite the scurrilous nature of the attack. Now having be warned, blocked and "Topic Banned" from all articles related to The Troubles, they again violated their ban. Regardless of who makes an edit on a Troubles related article, this editor has no business on these subjects! They are Banned. I also want that personal attack removed. Reply to Bretonbanquet: They were given explicit warnings on flags! They are topic banned, and have no business reverting anyone on any article that is covered by their ban. They were blocked for violating their topic ban already, and were explicitly warned about personal attacks. They have ignored all and every warning.--Domer48'fenian' 22:50, 7 December 2011 (UTC) I've added another diff as I consider it a violation of their ban. Adding fact-tags only to remove the text is plain gaming of the ban and the fact-tags.--Domer48'fenian' 23:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested [21] Discussion concerning Jonchapple Statement by Jonchapple Ed, I reverted an IP-hopping vandal. Bretonbanquet above or somebody else would have done exactly the same if I hadn't've got there first, because the edit added an incorrect piece of pointy vandalism that directly contravened both Wikipedia consensus and the bare facts. And if you really think I'm making "no effort to curtial my inappropriate edits", we must really be looking at a different list of contributions. I see a set of useful, contructive, good-faith edits that are helping to make this project a more accurate resource. I don't know what else I can say. JonCTalk 22:28, 7 December 2011 (UTC) Comments by others about the request concerning Jonchapple Can an article about a racing driver be reasonably construed as being related to The Troubles, Irish nationalism, and British nationalism in relation to Ireland..? Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC) It is not the racing driver article per se but the addition/reversion of Irish/British flags that is covered by the sanctions. Mo ainm~Talk 22:17, 7 December 2011 (UTC) Even when he's simply reverting vandalism by a popped-up-out-of-nowhere IP? The edit he reverted looks extremely dubious to say the least. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:30, 7 December 2011 (UTC) It wasn't vandalism it is a long running content dispute that is ongoing and I'm surprised that he even made the revert knowing full well that flags were covered in his topic ban. As regard to it being an IP hopping vandal I don't know if they are or not but they made two edits which certainly wouldn't be construed as vandalism. Mo ainm~Talk 22:42, 7 December 2011 (UTC) The dispute has been dormant for five weeks after no sources were found by anyone to back up one side of the argument. Given the discussion on the talk page and the lack of edit summary, I'd say it was vandalism. A total of two edits, one of which just happens to be extremely contentious? Hmmm... At best, it's disruptive. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC) As I was the last one to enter the UK flag icon before the IP edited it to the Irish one I feel that if Jonchapple hadnt undone it myself or Bretonbanquet would have . I had edited the discussion page[[22]] with up-to-date facts before I became aware of this . If this is consistent with the Troubles ruling , maybe in Jonchapple's case it is , it is also about the motor racing issue. There is no evidence to show that Carroll has ever been Irish in a sporting sense and that the remit of flags in motor racing infoboxes is based on sporting nationality - Northern Irish isnt a motor racing nationality and as Carroll isnt Irish the editor has just undone a comment with-out an edit summary and without a discussion ot the talk page . The IP made no effort to engage , discuss or explain their edit , the undoing of which would seem appropriate for an article on motor racing .Murry1975 (talk) 02:08, 8 December 2011 (UTC) Result concerning Jonchapple This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above. The recent practice at AE has been to consider revert warring on British versus Irish nationality for people born in Northern Ireland as being covered by Troubles enforcement. In fact Jonchapple was blocked for a week on 28 October for this revert in which he disputed the nationality of a golfer named Rory McIlroy. His new edits at Adam Carroll represent more of the same. Nothing has changed, he was blocked before for the same thing, and he seems to be making no effort to curtail his inappropriate edits. I suggest doubling the previous block, which was for three weeks. EdJohnston (talk) 22:17, 7 December 2011 (UTC) Per Ed, I agree this is more of the same from Jonchapple and support a 6 week block. However, given that this user will then have been blocked for 9 weeks of his 13 week (3 month) topic ban for violating it I'd suggest resetting the ban from the date of his future unblock (ie a new 3 month topic ban to run from Jan 18 2012)--Cailil talk 23:41, 7 December 2011 (UTC) I've blocked Jonchapple for six weeks. If he wasn't aware that edit-warring over nationalities like that was considered to be within the scope of WP:TROUBLES, he might have had a defence, but considering Ed clearly warned him about it (and this is very similar conduct to that which got him blocked last time), that is not applicable. The suggestion resetting the topic ban is not an unreasonable one and I'll leave this open for discussion of that proposal. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:49, 7 December 2011 (UTC) I support the block, the two edits are blatant violations of the TBAN, it wasn't vandalism that was added, typical POV pushing in this topic space (large chunk of Unionist vs Nationalist language in the first diff and "province" vs "country" of Northern Ireland in the second). I support resetting the topic ban to 3 months from this date. --WGFinley (talk) 01:57, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

VanishedUser314159

IP blocked one year. A named party of two Arbcom cases abused the Right To Vanish, evading both an AE block and a topic ban by actively editing on fringe topics during his ban. EdJohnston (talk) 04:22, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
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Request concerning VanishedUser314159 User who is submitting this request for enforcement Professor marginalia (talk) 00:34, 9 December 2011 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested VanishedUser314159 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Sanction or remedy to be enforced Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience#Log of blocks and bans Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Martinphi-ScienceApologist#ScienceApologist limited to one account Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 8 Dec 2011 Maybe just the most ironic edit. Has been editing from this IP since indef block in Mar 2011 for socking to evade sanctions, more persistently since about Oct 2011 15 Dec 2010 Confirms he edited with the IP before his block Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required) Not necessary. He knows he can't do this. Additional comments by editor filing complaint It's a shame it's come to this, but this is a mess. With all the courtesy blanking on his behalf, the misuse of the Right to Vanish, socking, and block evasions - I had to say something. I always found him to be a real asset at wikipedia and I don't have any opinion about the arbitration cases he was party in-I didn't follow them. It was only because in a discussion with him yesterday, I recognized the IP as VanishedUser314159 and looked him up that I learned he was currently blocked. But to continue editing he should come out in the open, seek his block be removed and edit under his user account. Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested [23] Discussion concerning VanishedUser314159 Statement by 128.59.171.194 I know that as an IP my abilities to edit on Wikipedia are limited. I encourage any administrator who thinks it appropriate to block this IP if you feel the contributions have been in any way disruptive. I do not have access to VanishedUser314159's account, nor do I have any desire to create a user account. 128.59.171.194 (talk) 02:17, 9 December 2011 (UTC) Statement by VanishedUser314159 Comments by others about the request concerning VanishedUser314159 Result concerning VanishedUser314159 This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above. VanishedUser314159 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 128.59.171.194 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) In December 2010, VanishedUser314159 added the signature of a named account under a talk comment left by this IP. In January 2011 the vanished user offered to take a one-year wikibreak, but it does not appear that he was serious. The IP geolocates to Columbia University. I've notified Jpgordon, who placed the indefinite block on VanishedUser314159 in March 2011, to see if he wants to comment. The IP is very active on fringe topics since March 2011, which goes against past advice by Arbcom. It also violates a one-year topic ban from fringe science imposed here at AE in January 2011, still visible in Archive81. Unless the user volunteers to seek unblock under his main account we may need to treat this as evasion of an AE block and shut down the IP for a long period. It does not appear necessary to go to Arbcom for advice since they have expressed themselves clearly in the past. We should consider imposing a one-year block. We can give the user the address of arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org if he is hoping that the Committee has changed its mind about allowing him to use multiple identities. EdJohnston (talk) 04:43, 9 December 2011 (UTC) That diff is pretty clear proof it is him, it appears a block defense has been lined up as the IP added the Shared IP Edu template.[24] Since the IP went right on editing after responding here and the IP is clearly associated with the banned user and I don't see any other substantive edits from this IP indicating it is truly shared it would seem a long term block is in order.--WGFinley (talk) 14:22, 9 December 2011 (UTC) Closing: 128.59.171.194 (talk · contribs) is blocked for one year for evading the AE block of User:VanishedUser314159 and the AE topic ban from pseudoscience and fringe science imposed in January 2011. This sanction is being logged in WP:ARBPS and in Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Martinphi-ScienceApologist. EdJohnston (talk) 03:48, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Someone35

Someone35 (talk · contribs) banned from all articles, discussions, and other content related to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly construed across all namespaces for one year, expiry 10 Dec 2012 --WGFinley (talk) 06:00, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
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Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning Someone35 User who is submitting this request for enforcement Nableezy 15:23, 9 December 2011 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested Someone35 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Sanction or remedy to be enforced Wikipedia:ARBPIA#Discretionary sanctions Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 2 December 2011 See below 19:39, 6 December 2011 See below for explanation 19:15, 7 December 2011 Hounding 10:04, 9 December 2011 Hounding, disruptive editing 9 December 2011 Accusing others of being paid to edit Wikipedia Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required) Notified of the case on 24 August 2011‎ Topic banned following the user calling me an "antisemite" Additional comments by editor filing complaint Someone35, after having his or her indefinite topic ban for calling another user (me) an antisemite without any evidence reduced to a 3 month topic ban on appeal has continued with the same immature behavior that demonstrates why the user should restricted from the topic area. In the first diff above the user personalizes a dispute at a talk page by asking an inane question to me. In the second diff the user continues with this pattern, asking if I am employed. In the the third diff, the user tendentiously follows my contributions to an article he or she had never edited to make a personal attack, claiming that I am not editing article to "contribute" to them but rather to "agitate people against Israel". That the user has no idea what they are talking about on the issue under discussion does not seem to faze him or her. In the fourth edit, the user again hounds my contributions to ask an extremely inappropriate question, asking how much I am paid to edit here. The meaning of that diff is made clear in the final diff, in which the user again makes the absurd accusation that I was paid to be involved in a discussion at Talk:Jerusalem. This is not daycare, and we should not have to deal with children running around making a nuisance of themselves. The user's disruption has escalated from a minor annoyance to active disruption, and I request that his or her indefinite topic ban be reimposed. When the user can demonstrate that he or she has the required maturity to edit in the topic area the ban can be rescinded, but I think it is clear that after the 3 month ban that this child still is not fit to edit in the topic area. It is very obvious who the user was referring to in the edit on his talk page, and the comments below are disingenuous to say the least. Compare this with this and you can see that the claim that he was not referring to a specific user falls flat. This is similar to the behavior that occurred prior to the user's last topic ban, where the user claimed that because he or she called me an antisemite in Hebrew but not English it should not count. See the past thread here (collapsed section, the extension of the ban occurred during an appeal of a block). nableezy - 16:27, 9 December 2011 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested Notified Discussion concerning Someone35 Statement by Someone35 I'll reply to each edit: 1. How is this a violation of any guideline? 2. Was there anything offensive in this question? 3. Am I not allowed to involve in a discussion about a place that I know well? I even visited there a few months ago so I am knowledgeable in that article. 4. That edit was underlined for a purpose... 5. Did I mention you there? See who's wikihounding (or stalking) others... Reply to Nableezy's statement: I already apologized for that, look for it if you want. In my opinion that question wasn't inane, also you didn't even answer me, you just removed it. That's because you haven't answered me, you could at least say that you are not interested in telling me that... Again, I am knowledgeable about Hiriya and I agreed with his position. That was underlined for a purpose Where did I mention you in the last diff? Also, the meaning of the userbox you put in the bottom of your userpage is also clear and you can get arrested for supporting terrorist organizations... Since mostly children read Wikipedia (usually to copy their HW from there), you SHOULD have children editing here in order to make Wikipedia more open to children. Also, Nableezy is the only user who seems to be disrupted by my edits and that's the 3rd or 4th time he reports me. Response to WGFinley: Nableezy is the only editor who complains about me. Once I saw asad's warning I removed the problematic sentences. But I went out for about 3 hours so I only saw it after Nableezy complained here.-- Someone35  16:13, 9 December 2011 (UTC) Does the fact he's the only one that complains about you change the fact that you asked him if he has a job and accused him of being paid to edit WP? --WGFinley (talk) 16:15, 9 December 2011 (UTC) I haven't accused him. I haven't even mentioned him in that edit. I asked him once oafishly (that's the word google translate gave me, I'm not sure it's accurate, I never heard of this word before) if he has a job since he seems to edit a lot on Wikipedia. As far as I know, asking somebody if he has a job isn't against any Wikipedia policy.-- Someone35  16:20, 9 December 2011 (UTC) Man, you really outta stop burying yourself with these self-destructive comments. Have you not taken to heart what you have learned in your mentoring course? -asad (talk) 16:24, 9 December 2011 (UTC) I removed the sentences you asked me to remove in order not to get myself in trouble, but I only saw your warning after Nableezy reported me-- Someone35  16:26, 9 December 2011 (UTC) Response to Nableezy's second comment: There other people who are not you that make POV pushing edits and are getting paid for editing Wikipedia...-- Someone35  16:35, 9 December 2011 (UTC) Response to the admins: Then give me a one year interaction ban with Nableezy, since I don't engage in edit wars with other users, or make problematic edits in Israeli Palestinian conflict articles (I am not edit warring or violating any rule there). Also, again, I removed the sentences Nableezy complains about in the moment I saw asad's warning, but apparently it was too late and Nableezy already wrote the report here.-- Someone35  06:46, 10 December 2011 (UTC) Comments by others about the request concerning Someone35 Comment by Malik Shabazz @WGFinley We shouldn't continue to add a little more time and send them back out to cause issues when their TBAN expires. Precisely. So why add a little more time and send Someone35 back out when his (proposed year-long) topic ban expires? Why not reinstate his indefinite topic ban? Hasn't he made good use of the WP:ROPE he was given? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:09, 9 December 2011 (UTC) Comment by Demiurge1000 I'm Someone35's mentor (agreed after his initial topic ban) so unfortunately I'm partly responsible for this, as I only noticed and replied to all this on Friday morning. The mentoring work that we've done so far clearly hasn't successfully dealt with the issue that Someone35 has extremely strong views about certain groups whose stated aim is to destroy his country, that he (wrongly) associates opposing viewpoints on Wikipedia with those groups, and that he not only focuses his feelings about this on Nableezy as an individual, but also doesn't restrain himself from expressing those feelings on Wikipedia. (In retrospect, probably the first part of the mentoring should have been "let's talk about Nableezy and your feelings about Nableezy", but instead I took a more conventional approach.) The comments made are indefensible; there's no world in which one asks a on-wiki opponent "do you have a job?" just out of curiosity, and secondly I don't see how Someone35 or anyone else can expect the comments about paid editing to be interpreted as other than referring to Nableezy. I would prefer WGFinley's suggestion of a year long topic ban rather than an indefinite one, though the only argument I have in support of that is that for a teenager, a year is a very long time. An alternative suggestion would be an indefinite one-way interaction action ban to stay away from Nableezy, to include not editing any articles where Nableezy already edits. I do feel that if adhered to, this would prevent the expression of personal animosity that is the focus of the problem here. I'm aware that one-way interaction bans are generally frowned upon because of the potential for provocation in the other direction, but Nableezy has been very restrained in dealing with this, so I don't believe that would be an issue. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:58, 9 December 2011 (UTC) Comment by MichaelNetzer Someone35's interaction with Nableezy is unfortunate, and exhibits an immaturity that should not be tolerated. It does seem, however, that it's not driven by subject or content issues, rather by a personal one with an editor who is himself controversial when it comes to this topic area, as it's not the first time conflicts have risen around him. A topic ban may not be a focused enough solution, wherein a long interaction ban would more likely address the root of the problematic behavior. If within or after such a ban, Someone35 continues to behave this way towards Nableezy, then there would be good reason to widen the scope of the ban to include the topic. --MichaelNetzer (talk) 18:28, 10 December 2011 (UTC) Michael, it's part of the nature of the topic area that there is hardly an editor in it of which some other editor would not say that they are controversial or have been the source of conflict.     ←   ZScarpia   19:10, 10 December 2011 (UTC) I didn't intend to single out anyone in the overall context of this topic area, and I appreciate it being hot for most everyone. Only to say that it is specifically a personal issue in this case, which has roots in the interaction between both editors. --MichaelNetzer (talk) 19:50, 10 December 2011 (UTC) You'll notice that Demiurge thinks it goes a bit further than a personal issue. Having said that, I have no view on what the best solution would be.     ←   ZScarpia   20:26, 10 December 2011 (UTC) Not sure about that, ZScarpia. Demiurge suggests a one way interaction ban as an alternative solution saying: "I do feel that if adhered to, this would prevent the expression of personal animosity that is the focus of the problem here." True that SO35's young age plays a factor as well, but it does seem to focus on a personal animosity. --MichaelNetzer (talk) 20:59, 10 December 2011 (UTC) Result concerning Someone35 This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above. Of Nableezy's submitted diffs 2 is a pretty blatant personal attack and 4 and 5 are battleground fodder. Previous ban was 3 months, I believe a year off of P-I is in order as this isn't even a month since the last TBAN expired. We shouldn't continue to add a little more time and send them back out to cause issues when their TBAN expires. --WGFinley (talk) 16:05, 9 December 2011 (UTC) @Malik -I might be so inclined to support that but wouldn't make that call solo, would like some other opinions. --WGFinley (talk) 22:54, 9 December 2011 (UTC) Agree that the case for reinstating the editor's I/P topic ban is strong. I suggest that the indefinite topic ban be reimposed, with the option for review of the ban after one year and then every three months thereafter. EdJohnston (talk) 04:33, 10 December 2011 (UTC) @Demiurge1000 and MichaelNetzer: A review of Someone35's last two appearances at AE does not inspire confidence about his ability to edit neutrally on Israeli/Palestinian topics. The problems with his editing shown here in August and here in September indicate that it's not just a question of interpersonal conflict with Nableezy. It's clear to me that Someone35 could not live up to the hopes that people had for his reform when his ban was commuted to three months back in September. If anyone thinks that Someone35 has a good grasp of what is going on here, read over the five points that begin his statement, above. Asad112 has responded above that Someone35 is burying himself with self-destructive comments. EdJohnston (talk) 05:21, 11 December 2011 (UTC) Due to the appeal of Someone35's mentor, I'm inclined to go with one year as pretty ample and don't want to make this too complicated. So I will make it a year TBAN and wrap this up. --WGFinley (talk) 05:57, 11 December 2011 (UTC)