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IOS version history

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Wikipedia is not a collection of changelogs, which is what these articles unashamedly are. Any changes of note (e.g. Siri for iOS 5-on-4S) can, and most likely are, covered in their parent articles. Also nominated:

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 07:18, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - That's not even what these article articles are. They contain irreplaceable, detailed prose. Marcus Qwertyus 18:26, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - This is a great resource for people. I use this website all the time. When someone asks why they should update I point them here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.88.209.93 (talk) 20:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    A token amount of prose does not change the fundamental nature of these articles, which is to document changes in each release, contrary to WP:NOT. Indeed, Android (operating system) already talks about Ice Cream Sandwich in a more succint matter, and using reliable sources. However, I will withdraw Windows Phone in favour of completing the merge agreed to on the talk page. Sceptre (talk) 19:59, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: the cited part of WP:NOT was removed by the article creator, KelleyCook (talk · contribs), claiming a lack of consensus for its specific inclusion. However, this article still inherently violates Wikipedia's policies against indiscriminate information and cataloguing. Sceptre (talk) 20:15, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Definitely agree that these articles do contain detailed, irreplaceable prose, and must add that all of the information in those articles (at least in the Android version history article) is cited from reliable sources. List of Ubuntu releases was nominated for speedy deletion for this same reason, and it too was kept. I don't see any difference between that nomination and this. --Kenny Strawn (talk) 02:31, 10 October, 2011 (UTC)
    I would love to see this "detailed, irreplacable prose", because I can't see it. User:Dr.pda's page size tool counts a total of 922 words of prose on iOS version history and 523 words in Android version history, including the lead section. The "4.x Ice Cream Sandwich" section in the Android article runs to 149 words of reliably sourced information, so it's not really detailed. The prose of both articles also mostly duplicates their parent articles, so it really isn't "irreplacable" by any long shot.
    Your other arguments are also lacking. The Android article includes citations to droid-life.com and androidcommunity.com, which both appear to be glorified blogs that I doubt have been vetted by RS/N. And the comparison to the Ubuntu article is spurious too; never mind that the existence of one article has no bearing on the existence of the other, the Ubuntu article is structured in a way that prevents the collection of indiscriminate information, while these articles in their conception encourage violations of NOT (IINFO, DIRECTORY, CRYSTAL). And as far as I can tell, that article was nominated for being too long, not for violating IINFO. There's a subtle difference between those two. Reality distortion field much? Sceptre (talk) 02:42, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - This article may not be as "clan" and detalied as it could be, but its much better than cutting it all into induvidual articles. I say we keep it. 83.108.196.101 (talk) 14:17, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Week keep but needs to be drastically revamped. As it is, this is a changelog, with a bit of added prose. It fails WP:NOT, but that itself is rarely a reason to delete. Instead, this can be revamped to be something lime "Timeline of changes to the iOS operating system", and culling down to the major additions (additions of notable programs yes, but this like "now displays music lyrics" or the like that I'm seeing in the tables, absolutely not). Distill down this information and make more prose than tables. I'm sure there are offsite pages that have this information well documented. --MASEM (t) 17:40, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I agree with 83.108.196.101. Oddbodz (talk) 18:18, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep but the lengthy table of release notes should be removed and the rest re-written to focus on significant innovations, preferably ones that are significant to the industry, not just to Apple's commercial progress. (I agree with MASEM.) --Northernhenge (talk) 20:02, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - This page has had a lot of edits; really any of the many layouts work. I myself prefer something I can expand and collapse, just for usability, but it's a great separate page (and useful collection of information) for what has changed over the history of Apple's iOS. I know I visit the page for information every once in a while. Ard0 (Talk - Contribs) 00:06, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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