Wikipedia talk:Cleanup sorting

Changing the cleanup tag?

I like what you have here so far. I find in working on cleanup articles that it is not always clear what should be done to cleanup an article. Sure, I can usually tell, but if I can't, I have to go to the talk page which may have no rationale or many possible rationales. For this reason, and to aid in the implementation of this project, I think that two changes should be made to the {{cleanup-date}} tag:

1. The tagger should be required to put a rationale onto the tag when they add it, similar to the proposed deletion rationales that currently exist.

2. There should be a message indicating that if an editor feels that an article has graduated to the {{expert}} stage, he or she should change the tag.

These changes would help to implement this policy and add some sense to the current vague system. --Danaman5 06:20, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to propose something similar. More often than not, I stumble across articles that look perfectly fine with a cleanup tag on them and not a single word about it in on the talk page or even in the edit history. I usually just remove the cleanup tag then, seeing no reason what should be cleaned up about the article. People should really be forced to actually say what in the article needs cleanup in their opinion. --Conti|✉ 15:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have created a quick mockup for a change I think would be appropriate. See User:Danaman5/New cleanup-date template--Danaman5 17:07, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks a little too wordy to me, Danaman. Could you tighten up the language? Alba 18:46, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking the same thing myself. I have changed it to be much more simplistic but still convey the same ideas. Please examine it again and let me know what you think. --Danaman5 20:09, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup tag: formatting

The basic ideas look great, but the visual impact can be improved a lot, I think. Take a look at User:Alba/Workspace/Cleanup tag proposal. Alba 21:40, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The third attempt is too all-inclusive. The tag should be big enough to be noticeable, but I think that's too big. If nothing else, the space in between the bullet points should be minimized. The rationale idea is definitely a good idea, though. bcasterline^talk 22:47, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]