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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by ArnoldReinhold (talk | contribs) at 18:45, 18 January 2010 (→Well covered by existing policy: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Example 1: Allegations Against an Entertainer discussion

Example 2: The Pop Group, the Manager, and the Hate Song discussion

Example 3: The Target Becomes the Plaintiff discussion

Example 4: The Young Crime Victim discussion

Example 5: The Silly Video and the Internet Meme discussion

General principle: What do RS say?

The answer to each of these, in my mind, depends on the extent to which reliable sources cover the name in question. Rather than being a philosophical statement, this is a pragmatic consideration on my part:

  • If the names or allegations are already covered in Reliable Sources, (with special emphasis on avoiding tabloids, fansites, and other non-RS) then Wikipedia should include those items. Principled refusal to do so does not help the victim: while Wikipedia may be a huge draw and often the #1 Google hit, there are plenty of other sites which might cover the same information.
  • If they're not, then we should NEVER be in the leading edge of publishing BLP material like included in these examples.

Thus, Wikipedia should take an intentionally conservative, but not fanatical, stance. Inclusion of a name, meme, allegation, and the like should be a trailing indicator of notability. Jclemens (talk) 17:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well covered by existing policy

These examples are well covered by existing policy. We handle more difficult questions all the time. The first two are easily dismissed because there are no reliable sources. Tabloids and web sites almost never RS. Example 3 would be covered at all only if the legal case was notable, for example, if it set an important precedent. Even then there is no need to mention the details of the allegations as they were not reported as facts by reliable sources. Example 4 and 5 would come under WP:BLP1E and WP:NAMES. The fact that a person's name was widely reported in connection with a single event, especially where they were not seeking publicity, e.g. a crime victim, is not enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. --agr (talk) 18:45, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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