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Fences and windows

Voice your opinion on this candidate (talk page) (23/1/0); Scheduled to end 21:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Nomination

Fences and windows (talk · contribs) – Fences and windows would, I think, make an excellent sysop. If you participate at AfD, you will already know his name, but for those who don't, a short introduction is in order.

Fences and windows has been with us since 27 December 2006. With a clean block log since then, over 15,000 edits at the time of typing, and having authored a range of fascinating and idiosyncratic articles of which my personal favourite is Underwater basket weaving, his main expertise is nevertheless at AfD rather than as a content contributor. I invite you to examine Fences and windows' contributions and satisfy yourself of the thoughtful, sane and sensible attitude he displays.

You'll also see that this is a user who is sometimes active in the more contentious areas of the encyclopaedia; he has participated in RFC/U, in DRV and so on. I think this is a huge net positive. I do sometimes disagree with Fences and Windows' opinion; but I can never find fault with his conduct.

For your convenience, here is a link to Soxred's tool.

I'm choosy about who to nominate for adminship, and I do this very rarely—it's been so long since the last time that my only previous nomination has almost retired from active editing in the meantime. I've been badgering Fences and windows to stand for adminship for some months and he has always previously declined, so I am delighted that at long last, I have permission to make this nomination.

I commend Fences and windows to the community. —S Marshall Talk/Cont 18:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Co-Nomination by Black Kite

I very rarely nominate for adminship but always try to make exceptions for what I believe are exceptional editors. I first encountered Fences and windows on deletion-related pages. Since I tend to lean slightly towards the "deletionist", we were often on opposing sides of debates, yet I was immediately impressed with the manner in which he calmly and logically explained his views on notability and other relevant issues, in stark contrast to many other editors who frequent these areas. Such communication with other editors is a vital tool for any administrator. He has a good background as a content contributor, and his activity at AfD, DRV and RFC means he has a good breadth of activity in project and admin-related areas. I agree with the nominator and believe he would make an excellent administrator.

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:

Accepted, thanks! Fences&Windows 20:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?
A: Mainly areas to do with article deletion. I'm familiar with AfD and proposed deletions, and I've done some speedy deletion tagging. I'll always give a full rationale for AfD closures and otherwise explain my admin actions. Other than that, I plan to lend a hand with AIV and RPP and other areas that might have backlogs, but I'll tread carefully while learning the ropes.
2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
A: I've created or expanded quite a few articles, often in eclectic areas as S Marshall notes. Underwater basket weaving and Wound licking are two that I took early this year as I was getting more involved in Wikipedia from being stubs to B-class articles. Sex after pregnancy was written from scratch on request to replace an article on the topic that suffered from original research and a how-to tone. I revamped Starbucks, Human evolution, Tag (game) and others by removing original research, restructuring, and adding references. I've rescued around 200 articles from being proposed for deletion, expanding and improving the majority of them in the process. You can see more about my editing on my userpage here.
I've participated in quite a few debates at Articles for Deletion - finding sources is my most useful contribution there. My editing goes where the sources take me. I helped start the small but growing Article Incubator —though the real credit goes to Fritzpoll and GTBacchus— and I've helped draft a proposal, Wikipedia:Notability (news events), to help with the thorny and perennial problem of how to handle articles about events.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A: Sure, a few conflicts, they're hard to avoid if you're not a pure WikiGnome. Editing Wikipedia can be a little frustrating sometimes, but it's not exactly stressful. Usually things can be worked out pretty quickly on article or user talk pages, and maintaining a sense of humour helps. My one memorable run-in with sockpuppetry was quickly resolved with a couple of reports to SPI, and the editor took my advice and returned to contribute useful edits.
Optional question from Skomorokh
4. Have you ever edited from an account other than Fences and windows (talk · contribs)? If so, would you care to disclose the account(s) in question?
I registered an account under my real name, but I never used it. Fences&Windows 21:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No worries; have you edited under any other accounts?  Skomorokh, barbarian  21:20, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

General comments

Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/Fences and windows before commenting.

Discussion

Support
  1. As nominator.—S Marshall Talk/Cont 20:28, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Easy and strong support, I watchlisted this the minute Marshall posted the link on F&W's tp as I wanted to be an early supporter. F&W is one of the most thoughtful editors I have come across. -SpacemanSpiff 20:30, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support - has some excellent contribs, seems friendly. — Oli OR Pyfan! 20:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Absolutely. Rd232 talk 20:37, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support: Great editor. Joe Chill (talk) 20:40, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support I think I have disagreed with F&W as often as agreed, but even when they are wrong it is for good reasons :). - 2/0 (cont.) 20:48, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Support as co-nominator. Black Kite 20:53, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Great candidate. Master&Expert (Talk) 21:01, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support Contrary to popular belief, I am always happy when I have the opportunity to support a self-proclaimed atheist at RfA. Keepscases (talk) 21:10, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Strong support. Absolutely. Tan | 39 21:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Support without hesitation. Crafty (talk) 21:28, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Support Good contributor, with a good attitude. I think they would be a good mop-wielder. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 21:30, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support. This contributor does a great job in facilitating cooperation with his editing. Location (talk) 21:48, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Strong support This one falls under the "they weren't an admin already?" category. As the nominator said, Fences and windows is well-known to AfD regulars, and I support him based on my observations of him there. He's a terrific mainspace contributor in addition to his excellent work at AfD and with PROD and CSD – and a trustworthy longtime editor. Giving him the mop will absolutely be a benefit to the community. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 21:53, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Support - A great editor, and I've participated in policy discussions with them and find their arguments reasonable. -- Atama頭 22:11, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Support. Duh. Tim Song (talk) 22:16, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Support. Absolutely. Sterling work— creating content, sourcing and improving articles coupled with sound grasp of policy.   pablohablo. 22:19, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  18. Support Without reservation. Hipocrite (talk) 22:59, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  19. Support. I too like what I've seen of this user. Deor (talk) 23:07, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  20. Support - trustworthy editor. PhilKnight (talk) 23:24, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  21. Support We've "bumped heads" occasionally, and each and every time I've come away with an appreciation for this editor's willingness to engage in meaningful discussion and for his acumen with matters dealing with policy, guideline, and process. He has my full suport. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 23:35, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  22. Support I have never heard of you knowningly before, but you seem very qualified. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:37, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  23. Support A thoughtful editor, respected on both sides of the aisle at AfD. --Chris Johnson (talk) 23:39, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
  1. Oppose per User:A_Nobody/RfA#RfA_Standards. On the positive side of things, the candidate has never been blocked, does have some barnstars on his userpage, and has made some reasonable arguments in AfDs as at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/German-Libyan relations, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Avatar (Ultima) (although I said to keep, and he said to merge, this merge was expressed in a reasonable manner), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belgium–Mexico relations, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gamorrean (2nd nomination). With that said, the candidate has also made some frustratingly weak arguments elsewhere: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rusty Ryan (2nd nomination) (the delete "vote" was enough to make someone say to "keep" per the candidate's delete...), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lamia (Vampire Folk lore) (a clear "no consensus" discussion in which the candidate did not follow WP:PRESERVE, redlinking in this case was simply unreasonable; I can respectfully disagree, but in one like this I cannot trust that judgment as reflective of the actual value of the content under discussion), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of honorific titles in popular music (2nd nomination) (again, not following WP:BEFORE, WP:PRESERVE, etc., i.e. not getting that deletion is an extreme last resort), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Herman Toothrot (no reason/rationale provided, just a vote), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elaine Marley (a WP:PERNOM style "vote"), etc. Some of these delete votes seem to against common sense even and are dug in without a willingness to accept a compromise and that is particularly disheartening. This candidate is someone who at times I had hopes/faith in, but more so than anything else, really lost me over the "Lamia" article and the overreation of quiting the ARS over it is not the kind of calmness and composure I look for in admins. I hope to see more of the first few positive examples I list above that would maybe change my mind down the road, but I do not have confidence in reasonability and calmness at this time. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 21:57, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral
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